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Perhaps we should ask Governor Palin's daughter, Bristol, the mother of a bastard child, what, if any, sex education she had?

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 In June 2007, our friends at EOPC  re-ran the story of  "J"/GRIDNEY - (please go read because this online predator's a piece of work aside from being a great education on how they ALL work.)

A year ago EOPC told us one of this online predator's victims was STILL being victimized by him (he called it "a falling out" ha ha ha) yet again and she wrote a blog with all the information on it called THE STUMBLING BLOCK.  Its well worth a read because you can really see her devastation and emotional turmoil.  Every victim could relate to her honesty!

Now readers -- compare this to the childish, rageful actions of someone you have told the truth about.  Let's  break it down; see how it compares.

1. "YOU STARTED IT!"... Even if You Didn't

"J"/GRIDNEY/ Yidwithlid wants this victim to control the internet and take down all posts about him - she tried.  EOPC said no, we said no.  Mostly because this victim (there was more than one) was not the INITIATOR of the exposes!  But he's going to continue to give her a public beat down because beating up on defenseless people makes him feel like a big man.

 

She reports that she begged an MSN support site to remove her posts (the MSN Site REFUSED) about him when that site owner (femfree@yahoo.com) told her HE WAS SURFING HER NICKNAME AND COMING THERE TO READ EVERYTHING SHE WROTE!

Yet he's mad? Incredible!

This horse's behind names her and blames her for everything but global warming.  Have you realized cyberpaths and predators smear & blame the person who probably scares them the most?

yidwithlid also committed copyright infringment against our old sites and EOPC.  We had written to Blogger.com about it - so in response, this bully saids he's making a bunch of new hate sites about his victim.  To RETALIATE FOR THE TRUTH BEING OUT THERE!

Why? Because he thinks:  She is us.  EOPC told us he thinks she is them too! 

He's scared of her because  she's  that OMNIPOTENT? This is so funny because this victim does nothing for either us or EOPC. Nor was she the person who initiated his exposures.

But of course, anyone who exposes the almighty  YIDWITHLID must be only her, right? (they all think they're almighty, don't they?  Like Ed Hicks who tells everyone the wives he committed bigamy & fraud on set HIM up... LOL!)

This even after she asked everyone to stop bothering him.  Unfortunately - can't control everyone now, can you?

 

Gridney/ Yidwithlid is also furious that we Linked to his website!

Well, if he truly believes he's done nothing wrong & that HE is the victim - he should be glad for the free publicity!

 

CHECK OUT WHAT GRIDNEY/ Yidwithlid says to what apparently is one of his victim's friends on his hate blog about his victim:

Are you telling me that Elizabeth posted my picture on the internet including MSN newsgroups as NYC******.

Barbara signed the letter to the Rabbi At aish?

GRIDNEY/ YidwithLid TRULY IS CRAZY!

 

We have copies of what is on his victim's site:

the person at AISH he is talking about? The victim named ELIZABETH?

- She initially wrote this Rabbi at AISH

- GAVE the Rabbi this Barbara's email

- Barbara RESPONDED to the Rabbi's inquiry email about him. 

Not initiated.  RESPONDED.

GRIDNEY/ YIDWITHLID, like all cyberpaths - sees only what makes him look like the victim.

So Mr. GRIDNEY/ YIDWITHLID - Tell us - what were your victims supposed to do?: LIE & COVER MORE FOR YOU? ACT LIKE IT DIDN'T AFTER YOU DESTROYED TWO WOMEN? ACT AS COLD & UNCARING ABOUT WHAT YOU'D DONE TO THEM AS YOU?

Remember readers: To a cyberpath you are nothing but a hologram or an object, not a real person and certainly not entitled to feelings! You're there only to make them feel good.  Like the porn babes so many of them are addicted to, their victims are supposed to GO AWAY with just a click.  Cyberpaths look at you as a FREEBIE. They believe they owe you NOTHING. But you aren't nothing - you are SOMEONE!

(Reminder, that MSN group was a VICTIMS SUPPORT GROUP - so YIDWITHLID's just admitted HE'S a stalker!.

And that particular MSN support group? His picture is there - BUT HIS NAME IS NOT! So unless he has even MORE victims who might recognize him (he probably does) - he's angry over NOTHING!)

None of his targets EVER used that nickname he rants about on MSN.   MSN however, knows he was SURFING and stalking his victims from board to board!  Monitoring their every word and emotional pain.  What a GREAT GUY!!  (click here for more)

Try to keep this straight: This predator admits surfing a SUPPORT group. For one of his victims. When she was out of her mind with emotional pain, fear and trauma because of WHAT HE DID TO HER & other women (including his wife)?

And then:

HE's the angry one who wants his victims to JUST FORGET IT so he can lie, never apologize, smear them and continue duping his family & friends? 

UNREAL

2.  The Predator's Boundless Sense of Entitlement

How CRUEL can one Yid be? And he just wants his victims to FORGET about the trauma like it never happened?  They are 'nutjobs' for having feelings and not being complicit with his untruthful version of things?

BALLSY, aren't these jerks!

GRIDNEY/ YIDWITHLID victimizes one innocent woman, slanders her, lies to her and when she figures his scheme out & that he's been using & abusing her for 2 years (the abuse sent her to the hospital more than once!!) -- he:  GOES TO ONLINE SUPPORT GROUPS, FINDS & READS EVERYTHING THIS POOR TRAUMATIZED VICTIM IS VENTING ABOUT (WHAT HE PURPOSELY DID TO HER & HER FAMILY) AND LOOKING FOR SUPPORT ABOUT!

WHAT A MALICIOUS EMOTIONAL VAMPIRE!! See how ENTITLED these predators feel?  They get MAD that their victims are HURT!! 

Be warned -- is yours doing this to YOU?

As a victim: you are 'out of your mind' looking for help and they are cyberstalking you reading EVERY WORD YOU ARE SAYING? 

And then you are a "nutjob" for needing mental  or emotional help after they take your heart, soul and trust?

3. "SO... I WILL DO IT BACK TO YOU" (aka -- Tit for Tat)

Gridney/Yidwithlid went so far as to post on one site (it was since removed because of the slanderous nature of the whole post by the site owners; who confirmed as much to The Exposer) :

"she tried to get me listen.  No way bitch!" 

So, Gridney/ Yidwithlid has proved he's a nasty bully.  He doesn't even want to hear that Target #1 tried to do what he wanted.  This liar had said prior to that, that he "didn't have time for hate."  Now he's confirmed he's not just a bully - he's a pathological liar.  He certainly made time for hate, when his Target #1 made time to attempt to make peace. (says alot about these cyberpaths, don't it?)

 

Gridney/ YidwithLid has gone so far as to accuse his target of being a PREDATOR (can you say PROJECTION?) and says she purposely put him on a porn aggregator (uh... Gridney/ Yid? Those are AUTOMATIC AGGREGATORS that troll the net for specific words...  NO one PUTS you on one of those!  You can't even JOIN one)  Guess ole' Gridney/ Yidwithlid does an awful lot of ego surfing, huh?

YID has only proved he committed copyright infringment as well as speaking libel and harrassing someone who probably has little to no clue what is going on.  (read on as to how he did this)

4. 'MY VICTIM "IS JUST AS GUILTY!"'

GRIDNEY /YidwithLid even says the relationship was "her fault too" and she "played his game" with him.  He neglects to mention that this victim genuinely cared for him while he LIED to her & had a hidden , destructive and malicious agenda towards her.  (Don't they all?)

Is this starting to remind anyone of elementary school?

5. "I am the Victim Here"

His victim's site has a post which GRIDNEY/ Yidwithlid  put on his own blog which whitewashes what he did.  He never talks about his addiction to hookers, porn, phone sex, cybersex babes, etc.  And twists what happened to make his victims look bad.  "Mr. Innocent" paints himself as the victim. (playing victim is part of the profile of a sociopathic person)

 

6. Half-Baked Accountability

This narcissist even created a new profile on TECHNORATI (click here) to keep the hits to his hate site comin'!!!  He removed his post of twisted reality from his blog and went right back to business as usual.  Did we forget to mention he has NEVER taken down the hate site. hmmm.....

Like all emotional predators/ cheaters & womanizers - he targets the most vulnerable person for everything - even when she has clear, hard evidence what she did and didn't do.

 

Don't make a cyberpath THINK about what they've done!! Goodness no! They are beyond reproach.

 

No "I'm Sorry", no attempt to speak to his victims (got PLENTY of lame excuses not to) - just rage.  He tells his victims to MOVE ON or GET OVER IT because he has. (of course he has -- LOL, why apologize for destroying someone's life) (classic pathological trait - no empathy or remorse for anyone but himself and the people he needs [family] to keep up the facade)

By the way, "moved on" is predator paramoralizing for "shut up about the truth so I can go back to banging whores and picking up vulnerable women online." 

 

Let's look at Gridney/ YidwithLid's version of "moving on" - here's a message we would guess is for his victim.

"when people google your site they will find out what you have been doing for the past three years instead of raising your children"

The victimizing NEVER ENDS with Gridney/ YidwithLid, does it? He's the "gift that keeps on giving!"  Great job of him "moving on" too, huh?

Like many exposed cyberpaths - Gridney/Yidwithlid says we are "hurting his wonderful wife."  No one was comparing his wife to his victims - EXCEPT HIM!  His victims are good people.  His wife is probably a good person.  Only predators make those comparisons to attempt to further tear down the credibility of the victims!

He also says he and his wife have "WORKED IT OUT".  Wouldn't you just LOVE to hear the bullcrap he told his wife about these normal, vulnerable women HE preyed on and sent to the hospital?? Not the prostitutes - the NORMAL ones. (probably the same bull he was saying about his wife to these women... since he follows the classic predator pattern)
Hell to pay when you disagree with an internet predator's version of truth!  (how about yours, readers?)

7. Copyright Infringement (Playing Stupid, but...)

YID asserts because he was part of the chats published on EOPC that he owns the copyright.  He did own part of the copyright to the chat only - but not our or EOPC's comments or commentary on the chats (which are wall to wall lies & manipulation on his part). 

Cyberpaths HATE when you have verifiable evidence on them!  (And often they give you that evidence THEMSELVES because they believe they will never get caught! -- WRONG)

 

He can't revoke the copyright either because it was published a couple years ago originally by EOPC and they extended their copyright to us - and the permission of only one of the chatters or emailers is necessary - and EOPC got that.

In fact: The Exposer did a little checking and back in March 2007, Sammy (yidwithlid's pseudonym) posted this on someone else's blog (along with some other thin-skinned sarcasm):

Posted by: Sammy Benoit | Mar 16, 2007 5:01:07 AM

A copyright may be embedded into a bitmap or jpeg file with software on a Mac or PC. Also, there are several companies that can officially help copyright images so that it is documented.

If these two things are done, and a quiet agreement is made with whomever uses it, it should be pretty easy to please everyone, and misuse of it would be easy to spot and stop. Well, hopefully.

 

So he does know about copyrights! Well, well, well.

We filed on him with IC3.gov and ChillingEffects.org. 

What did we get for filing? Nastiness - and childish emails like these:

From: Yidwithlid@aol.com
To: cyberpaths@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:33:58 EDT
Subject: Re: http://stumblingtchatzkahs.blogspot.com http://stumblingtchatzkahs.blogspot.com/2007/06/XXX-XXX-makes-threat.html __________________
From: Yidwithlid@aol.com
To: exposer@37.com
Received-On: 06/26/07 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Remove Content Please

NO
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From Yidwithlid@aol.com by mo-m22.mx.aol.com for exposer@37.com Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Yidwithlid@aol.com X-Eon-Dm: dm08 Date: 06/26/07 1:54 PM

From: Yidwithlid@aol.com
To: exposer@37.com
Received-On: 06/26/07 5:54 PM
Re: Remove Content Please

No
But thanks for asking
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From: Yidwithlid@aol.com
To: exposer@37.com
Cc: support@blogger.com
Received-On: 06/28/07 3:47 PM
Re: http://stumblingtchatzkahs.blogspot.com

cool two emails from you today thank you so much.. If you are publishing stuff that I wrote..then who gave you the copywite...I didnt. and I didnt write them say so take off all references to me and I will take down my site

By the way Are you enjoying the Nut job convention [victim's name]?

Tonight I am going to open up three new stumling tchatches sites.

***************

These immature emails bring to mind this quote:

Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.
~ Whittaker Chambers

 8.  This is MY Club, You Aren't Allowed

This cyberbully who is such an innocent victim? Pay attention to the infantile baloney a predator like him can pull:

Gridney/ Yidwithlid says he supposedly has VERY LITTLE POWER over a blogging aggregator to which both he & his Target 1 belong.  (He says she's "following him"... LOL)

We read on her blog she was hacked May 2007.  She won't tell us who did it - but we think we know.  Gridney/ Yidwithlid says he has no idea what is going on & is outraged he and his cyber posse are even suspected!  This victim of his? Never said his name or that she suspected him.  Sounds like GUILT, Yid! 

And...  hmmm, he should be more careful what he HIMSELF puts on the net.  The Exposer actually checks!!

GRIDNEY/ YidwithLid's got lots of blogs out there.  Sounds like self-admitted narcissist Sam Vaknin.  Can't get enough of themselves so they fill up the net with their rhetoric.  Also creates a wider net for them to lure more innocents in to their web.

This one's from yidwithlid.typepad.com  January 2007:

"January 21, 2007
New Peoples Choice Category: Most abusive of system
From two different sides of the world we wondered ....Who was crapping on our posts and yours. We had our lists of suspects but couldn't prove who was giving the bad grades ten at a time ...and how they were working sooooooo fast. Still have no clear proof. We do have some suspects . We googled the posts of one and noticed that there was one who would put up 8-9 posts one day, get them up over a hundred points take them down and repost the same articles the next day.

Then Sherlock Bagel Blogger found the a gun that was smoking even more. He put it in a much nicer way than me:

The awards known as the People's Choice awards seem to be finishing a lot quicker than most people expected.

I was going to hold on to this information until the results of the People's Choice Awards' became known, but I feel that it is not being honest to not divulge what I know.

I've debated with my self, my family and friends, should I or shouldn't I?

I also don't want to be accused of 'bitter lemons'.

I wrote a letter to another blogger and in the course of the letter I presented/made a table, now that I have made the table I feel something is seriously amiss.

I wont say what it is.

I'll leave the plain facts speak for them selves.

I have a PDF of the Google cache of 17th of Jan of the Israel forum's blog_best [rankings] which is now no longer available. [I have a copy and a html back up]

and I have a PDF of the 19 th Jan 2007 Israel forum's blog_best

Thats less than two days apart

What's the main difference? Well check it out you should be able to see it, it occurred over less than two days.

The person is relying on no one seeing anything or saying anything. Well I won't say anything if you don't.

Well here it is in Table form:
Rank 19th Jan     Blog Name     Votes tally on 17th Jan     Rank on 17th Jan     Votes tally 19th Jan    

Date last activity
    Tally count difference    

Up or DownPlaces
1     The Last Best Place     5224     1     5503     18th     279     0
2     Freedom's Cost     3676     2     3734     16th     58     0
3     Yid With Lid     5916     3     6066     18th     150     0
4     Samson Blinded     2359     8     3579     18th     1220     +4
5     Daf Notes     3993     4     4199     18th     206     -1
6     Bagel Blogger     4737     5     4949     19th     212     -1
7     The Maggid of Bergenfield     1092     6     1113     16th     21     -1
8     Simply Jews     6818     7     6978     18th     160     -1
9     Baleboosteh     2367     9     2422     18th     55     0
10     JoeSettler     2253     11     2255     17th     2     +1
11     Sarah's View     4317     10     4366     18th     49     -1
12     The Way I See It     3250     12     3279     16th     29     0
13     Divrei Chaim     1385     13     1404     18th     19     0
14     Orthomom     3016     17     3102     18th     86     +3
15     Chayyei Sarah     1592     15     1592     14th     0     0
16     Ask Shifra     1600     16     1616     14th     16     0
17     The Muqata     2078     14     2140     18th     62     -3
18     Slightly Mad     1425     18     1425     14th     0     0
19     Israellycool     4319     19     4440     19th     121     0
20     Lazer Beams     2230     20     2315     18th     85     0

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Here are snapshots of sections of the webpages in question:"

He took 'snapshots'?

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Seems he and this BagelBlogger are into watching who comes and goes from this 'supposedly' unbiased aggregator and 'totally fair' blog voting.  CLICK HERE TO LOOK WHO'S AT THE TOPS ON THE AGGREGATOR!!

If you click the link to the aggregator? Yid has MORE VOTES THAN ANYONE ELSE - almost DOUBLE!  And the top blogger list has numerous bloggers who haven't posted in weeks according to the dates. 

Yid and Bagel Blogger are CAREFUL not to make themselves #1 and #2 -  there's some rigging going on? - this aggregator apparently a fixed race for FRIENDS or ASSOCIATES OF THESE TWO AND THEIR COHORTS?  Looks like they DO have some 'power' and control over this aggregator.

Typical narcissists - they make SURE they are TOPS in their little online "club."  sickening.

 

So Target #1?  You don't need to tell us who hacked you - we know. 

 

Gridney/ Yidwithlid also takes out his frustrations when he is hacked with more cybersilliness:  HERE

 

9. Rules Don't Apply to ME!

Here's a quote from GRIDNEY (YidwithLid's) on 8/14/07 - on his website:

I love the web's freedom. But with freedom comes responsibility. Certainly those who use the internet to harass or terrorize are abusing the freedom the internet brings.

Let us guess - if someone is exposing YID for the predator, bully and liar he is - they're a terrorizer.  

Sure he loves the web's freedom - to prey on trusting women and dispose of them when they become inconvenient with no remorse! (sounds like all of them! blame-shifting and paramoralizing)

But when HE is called out on his predatory & manipulative actions towards the vulnerable women he targets; women who actually CARE about him - he's a victim. 

And if you want to prey on, lie to and manipulate vulnerable women and use them as sex toys to be tossed away when you're done - to YidwithLid - That's FREEDOM!
 

The Exposer knows - FREEDOM isn't FREE.  And where's your responsibility, YidwithLid?  For what you did to innocent people?

Did we mention cyberpaths are hypocrites? 


10. Terrorizing, Domination & Control

Cyberpaths, Predators and all Pathologicals are like most abusers - its about Control.  Particularly the control of the flow of information and truth.  Let's take a peak at how this cyberpath does some of it:

GRIDNEY (aka YidWithLid) has his blogs set so:

1. you HAVE to have a Blogger account to comment;

2. no anonymous comments.  He "says" its for the integrity of his blogs! B.S.  He wants to be able to track & smear anyone who calls him on his lies - just like a predator - always protecting their "image."  CAN WE SAY HYPOCRITE!

He says:
Yesterday I recieved a few "anonomous" postings about one of the writers who's work I have repulished on this blog. (someone whom I have only met via email after I posed one of his stories) The comments were very defamitory about this person.

It is quite interesting that people who say bad things about others, like to keep their names and real email adresses "anonomous" It tells me something about the quality of what they are saying. Anyway, those comments will continue to be deleted as I will not be a party to their acts.

Hold on!  Gridney/ YidwithLid doesn't use his real name! So that makes HIS comments anonymous.  Smells like a double standard there SAMMY!
11. They're Constantly Ego-Surfing Themselves

Cyberpaths love to check the web for any evidence of their misdoings and try to erase it.  NOTHING ever really disappears on the web.  Nothing.  If someone knows how to get into cache files - the internet is a FOREVER thing.


(Gridney/ Yidwithlid likes to log into the Exposer from an IP in Nashville, TN - wonder if his employer knows he does that?) as well as foreign IPs like Germany, Norway and so on.


12.  The Use of 'Helpers' to Do Their Dirty Work
Also, Gridney/ Yidwithlid has made contact with an ex-client of his Target #1 (Target #1 is now a DV counselor).  This woman - named "Judy" - has a lot of transferred anger against Target #1 because of her recommendationd "Judy" get professional counseling.  And from 'Judy's actions below - she seems to really need it!
Now Gridney/ Yidwithlid is letting "Judy" do his dirty work & lying for him.  We just heard "Judy" has a Federal order of protection against her from no less than 3 members of the site where Target #1 used to work - and tried to help her.  The cajhones of these bullys!!

Here's the slander "Judy" posted around the net after talking to Gridney/Yidwithlid about this poor victim  (tell us, did your predator, ex and their buddies say similar crap about you when you told the truth?  - they all seem to pull from the same 'slander pool') 

Cyberpaths love to get others to either do or help the do their dirty work:

"BARBARA XXXX  is sooo pissed off at the world that she has to bad mouth people. This phone sex whore has never meet me. She has never talked to me. I have NO idea why this BITCH hates me. We live across the country from each other. She is BI-POLAR and forgets to take her meds.  (Barbara is not Bi-Polar or on any psychiatric meds)

She's very fat and very over weight.  (Neglects to mention the fact Barbara's weight is due to chronic physical disability and that she has had multiple surgeries)  In fact, BITCH BARBARA is a diabetic (No, she's not diabetic as far as we know) and doesn't take her metformin. (huh?)

She is into phone sex. She was giving phone sex to [Gridney/ Yidwithlid] until he tired of her. (she did?  well -- at least Yid kinda 'admitted' to 'Judy' he used Barbara until he got bored) She begged him to give her another chance. When he wouldn't she posted his name all over the internet. (Barbara never begged him to give her another chance nor was she the one who posted his exposes anywhere!  EOPC contacted HER not the other way around! LOL) Even called the cops on him.  (Reported his verified death threats against her)  Unreal! BITCH, what part of "He's just not in to you" don't you get? During all of this phone sex, her husband is in the next room. (and 'Judy' knows this how? when she started by saying she doesn't even know this Barbara...  LOL) Unbelievable! I've heard that he has moved upstairs to get away from the BITCH WHO LOVES PHONE SEX BECAUSE NO MAN ON EARTH WANTS TO HAVE REAL SEX WITH THIS UGLY BITCH.  (Barbara is divorced now, and she initiated the divorce.  Her husband didn't want to divorce her.  As for her sex life, again - how would 'Judy' or Gridney/ Yidwithlid know this??)   It's the only sex she will ever get. EVER. She says she can't work because she's to fat to move.  (Again, no mention of her severe physical disability - which has nothing to do with being um... fat) 

So if your into phone sex, go ahead, give the bitch a call. (845)687-7706. If your in the neighborhood, go see how ugly she is: 372 Scarawan Road, Stone Ridge, New York. Or drop her a sickning card: 2 2 RR 2 Box 115 Accord, New York, 12402.  E-mail this phone sex addict at: pedsilva@gawab.com or at BDC@yahoo.com Silva is her maiden name.  (we only published all this information above because it's not only all incorrect, it was never valid...  so where 'Judy' got this from who knows!  wait she says where she got it from below... NOT!!)

She has harrassed me to the point of threatening my life along with my sons. I had to give her name to the FBI. They in return gave me her full name. (LOL - wow then the FBI got it wrong.  Besides, the FBI would never ever give out personal information like that.  Wonder if they know what Judy's saying about them?  And 'Judy's' children are adults - how can they all be threatened?) This bitch has called me to harrass me at home. I had to change my number. (Barbara has never called 'Judy' and we are aware that a search of her phone records over the past 4 years would show this.  A complete lie by one of Gridney/ Yidwithlid's new terrorizing assistant!!) Remember, she doesn't even know me. I have no idea whats up her ass. Probably her dildo got stuck and pissed her off cuz she can't get it out! I'd sure like to put her picture up her. Her birthdate is Aug. 9, 63 but if you saw her you'd swear she was born in 43! She has the most ugliest hairdo from the 60's that I've ever seen. (Again, completely fallacious information) I hope to God she gets back on her meds. (you do? below 'Judy' hopes she has a heart attack. hmmm)  A total fucking fool! She needs to learn to let go! Yes Barbara the bitch! LET IT GO! I never did one thing to you bitch. Not one thing.  (what would you call this, ma'am?)  Leave me alone. Leave my family alone. The atthorities know all about you. They have the threatening e-mails you sent to my now defunked e-mail address. (We contacted some of our contacts at 'the authorities' - just to check  - they have no such things.  They don't exist) She has also been arrested many times for harrassment.  (Barbara has never been charged or arrested.  Ever.)  She hates men to the point of trying to dystroy thier lives. If she only knew it's her life that she's destroying. It's eating away at her. Right now. As she reads this. Her blood pressure is soaring through the ceiling! I hope she has a heart attack.  (again, 'Judy' would know all this how????  and who's making death threats/ death wishes here?)

(note: 'Judy' seems to be a serial cyber-harrasser)

Cyberpaths love to use proxies (helpers)!  (both the human & internet kind)  Don't worry - its been reported to law enforcement by us, too!

So readers - when someone posts non-factual, nonsense made out of whole cloth about you on the web?  All you can do is laugh!!!  But if they DO post death threats or your personal information.  Contact your police and the FBI office nearest you immediately!

13. How Dare You Tell the Truth!

Reminder: Cyberpaths HATE when you show a backbone & stand up for yourself.  HATE IT!

These predators continue to amaze & astonish at their audacity.  GRIDNEY/ Yidwithlid could care less he contributed to at least 2 divorces, his big mouth got a brothel closed down, he caused trusting women severe trauma and put one into a center for the treatment of severe PTSD...(he says that makes HER crazy! LOL)   notice how predators all play that THEY are the victims here.  Think he'll ever apologize?

Readers, you can see who's at fault here for yourself...

(You can also view this whole story @ EOPC: FINAL NOTES ABOUT "J")

One of the tricks of the dramatic fiction-writing trade is to know, and focus on, a particular aspect of human nature. It is this: Every person's most precious possession is the image of him- or her-self that each carries around inside.
Fact: People will do ANYTHING to preserve and protect it.
Fact: Nobody can bear to have that be the image of an evil person.

This is why character assassination is the fate worse than death. That's why it's called "destroying" a person. This is why it drives people to murder and suicide. Even criminals who have committed violent crimes treasure a self concept of themselves as essentially good inside. And many, perhaps even most, are.

Storytellers exploit this by creating a situation in which the hero's self-concept is threatened. That's automatic maximum motivation. For example, Hamlet's self concept is that of an honorable man. So Shakespeare has his father's brother come along and seduce his mother, murder his father the king, and then stain the throne of Denmark with an incestuous marriage to his mother in order to keep the throne from going to Prince Hamlet as it should.

What are people going to think of Hamlet if he goes along with this? If he just looks the other way at the murder of his own father? What is Hamlet going to think of himself? But it's a Catch-22, because everyone else is sucking up to the usurper, so they dishonestly view Hamlet as crazy for suspecting the usurper and will condemn him as evil for doing justice. So, Hamlet is damned as a bad person either way. If you put a character like Hamlet in a predicament like this, you have yourself a whopper of a story with it's own engine roaring and ready to go.

Since before recorded history, there have been stories of ghosts. According to legend, not just anyone who dies could become a ghost. A ghost was someone who could not rest in peace. He could not accept what had happened to him. Usually that's because he was murdered in some diabolical way, either as Hamlet's father was or as Jesus of Nazareth was -- by being framed and executed for crimes he never committed. He died a criminal.

Put yourself in his shoes. Could you tolerate that? No. Nobody can. Nobody can tolerate the whole world believing they're evil when they're not, especially when the person who has falsely accused them is the evil one and comes out smelling like a rose. That turns the whole world upside down, making good evil and evil good. It is an INTOLERABLE state of affairs! Human nature cannot abide it.

Indeed, even the blessed spirits in Heaven are said to be unable to stand it. For, that's precisely what started the mythical war in Heaven between St. Michael the Archangel and Lucifer, who later became known as Satan (which means the "accuser" or "character assassin").

That's the reasoning upon which is founded the belief that Jesus will return. The early Christians expected him to return to Jerusalem any day, with an army of angels.

Do you think that he would have been in a good mood?

They didn't. What do you think Pontius Pilate, the Sanhedron, and the people of Jerusalem would have done? Yes, the "innocent" bystanders of Jerusalem -- who mobbed Jesus one day as a saint and went along with his character assassination and murder the next by crying "Crucify him!"

Who did they think they were fooling? Me? I'd know I hadn't fooled him, and I be scared shitless of anybody I did that to. So, what would you do if someone you had done that to returned returned with great power? Tremble, eh?

That's why the traditional representations of the Second Coming are of it as "a day of wrath, a dreadful day." In this upside down world Jesus is the bad guy and the Sanhedrin and the people of Jerusalem are the good guys. Like St. Michael the Archangel, he is going to turn the world right-side up again by giving the real bad guys the reputation they deserve.

You needn't be a Christian to get the import of this story. The narcissist plays the part of the Sanhedrin (which was indeed narcissistic and envious of Jesus). The people of Jerusalem play the part of everyone who listens to his slander and calumny of you, even though it flies in face of the facts of your known conduct, gobbling it up just because it's juicy and because condemning others makes them feel righteous. If, say, this happens in the workplace, Pontius Pilate plays the part of the boss.

There is nothing worse you can do to a human being.

So, if this has happened to you, your feelings are natural. Don't make it worse by feeling guilty about them and trying to bury them. You cannot accept it. But you can accept your feelings. So do. You just hunger and thirst for justice. What's so bad about that?

If you bide your time, maybe someday you'll get it. But unfortunately, you probably won't, because there's very little true justice in this world. That place has been diseased and corrupted by the malignant influence of the narcissist. So just leave it, and kick its dust from your feet as unfit habitation for decent people.

Indeed, would you rather trade places with them? He owns them. He doesn't own you.

And there is karma. That's why I referred to that Clint Eastwood movie yesterday. I think it was High Plains Drifter. In a cloud (of dust) he descends upon a Jerusalem named "Hell" one day and agrees to help them defend against the "return" of somebody they did that to.

Boy! does he give it to 'em good!

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(EOPC believes Cyberpathy is an expression of Malignant Narcissism and/or Sociopathy - Fighter)

We work to try to understand the essence of the narcissist. When I was trying to explain the N to a friend, she understood an N as someone not "able to face the pain of imagining they did something wrong". I wasn't sure about this so did a quick internet search on narcissists and admitting wrong and accepting fault, and got these quotes: -

The narcissist sometimes notices that something is wrong with him and with his life -- but he never admits it. - ... the narcissist is incapable of admitting that something is wrong with HIM - They will never admit fault, they will never say they are sorry. If something goes wrong, they will play the victim. They will blame others. - Remember they will never admit they are wrong, they willnever debase themselves with an real apology. They will never laugh at themselves.

"[I suspect my husband is a narcissist]. Last night we got into an argument over our daughters homework and he was absolutely livid because he was wrong and he knew he was wrong but could not admit it. He try's to place blame on anyone and everyone but himself."

- Narcissists adores themselves. They live for themselves, they think they can do no wrong and will not admit to wrongdoing [re: traits common to 6 year olds and adult narcissists] - [For the narcissist] to admit to one failing, to acknowledge a mistake, even a simple human error of judgement, would be to open the door to the deep internal lack within. ... Such feelings of worthlessness are like an ocean being held back by a fragile dyke. The illusion of perfection, maintained by projecting faults onto someone else, is a barrier to be constantly tended, mended and shored up. To admit any feelings of deficiency would be the equivalent of poking a hole in the dyke, an event to be feared as a total disaster. Narcissists blame all problems on the "all-bad." It's never the narcissist's fault; it's always someone else's. The last paragraph speaks truly from a narcissist's perspective. It's the victim's fault. If the two of you have a conflict, he'll tweak the facts as much as he has to to make it all your fault.
"His perverse way of turning everything into my fault and his blaming left me battered and exhausted." Narcissists who were children of entitlement:

Externalization of Blame -- The child cannot allow the bad feelings of being at fault for anything. He/she/they/YOU are the problem! He avoids feeling vulnerable by blaming others. The fragile self esteem cannot be punctured by taking responsibility for behavior. His script is "Do not expose me to those intolerable feelings inside. I can't handle it."

Since the false self is grandiose and perfect, relationship problems are never the fault of the narcissist. For making a change (whether great or small) implies that the narcissist has been two things they "cannot stand": imperfect (something is actually wrong with "them") and at fault ("they" actually were wrong, weak, or inferior somehow). It can't be HIS fault - he is perfect. The narcissist says in effect, "Something doesn't feel right. I'm too special to be the cause, therefore it must be your fault."

EOPC is loaded with examples of this, here's our sampling: (scroll over content to find embedded links)

BRAD DORSKY - his victim supposedly 'led him on.' Dorsky not only tried to rage at his victim, he sent a "friend" to find out who exposed him. Obviously, MR. DORSKY thought we were a bunch of barely legal kids on a social networking site; his favorite sort of target!

Says the relationship was consensual. This is a common one!

A relationship can not be consentual when the victim does not know the truthful facts to make an appropriate decision.

• Lying
• Telling her she's the only one
• Playing mind games with her
• Moving in on her when she & her husband/partner are having a hard time
• Moving in when she's vulnerable
• Having a 'hidden agenda'

CHARLES "ED" HICKS - This guy's a doozy. Said in court, to a judge, after 2 of his 7 known wives were questioned and hard, clear legal documentation was researched and presented by an Assistant D.A.: "It's false, all false." Guess that orange jumpsuit should have been a straightjacket. Has recently gone back on dating sites under various nicknames using CHARLES HICKS to try to defuse people googling ED HICKS and finding out he's the 'Dr. Phil Bigamist.' Tells people he's retired from a government job (he was fired and his security clearance revoked).

Additionally is not always honest about his criminal record on the numerous dating sites he's on now. CLICK HERE FOR ONE OF HIS ADS Age 56? LOL!

(Here's the best one EOPC's heard!) Rumor has it that HICKS is shopping for a publisher for his book where he will tell the truth (he means his version of it a.k.a. complete fiction) and show how
1. two of his wives 'set him up just to get on T.V.' (EOPC is sure they had a great time telling the world how naive & used they were by Mr. Hicks) and

2. have lied about him as well as being 'mean' to his children (a.k.a. feeding, clothing, housing and taking care of his kids during their marriages while these kids sponged everything they could off them and various girlfriends of Mr. Hicks' simultaneously - just like Daddy!).

Additionally he plans to 'take legal action" against the producers of "Dr. Phil" and the WE show VERY BAD MEN who profiled him and showed him a bad light! Good luck with that, Mr. Hicks...

WILLIAM MICHAEL BARBER - back in jail after leaving the State in which he was incarcerated without permission and found having a false Social Security Card & Number and falsified identity papers on him. (After his wives and victims repeatedly told probation officers he would do it again and he was let out of jail early anyway)...

BARBER was also profiled on the WE show VERY BAD MEN. Don't you think these people would be thrilled they are so famous?

"J"/ GRIDNEY/ YIDWITHLID - 1. EOPC ran his expose for the third time in June 2007. This time he became of aware of it and he attacked one of his victims as the sole person causing him "public embarrassment." No acknowledgment that his real name and location were not used by us on this site, at this same victim's request.

No mention on his part that his new nickname and website are now linked to yet another 'false personna and location' made up by him.

No thank you for the consideration his main victim showed his family. (EOPC has had no response to emails we have attempted to send to this victim)

2. "J"/GRIDNEY/YIDWITHLID blames ONLY one of his victims for all the postings about him despite her trying to get them taken down in March of 2007. (Now which one of EOPC's victims really controls the internet? Hmmmm?) On a website she has, she said the primary reason these site owners would not remove him - was because SHE WAS NOT THE PERSON WHO HAD POSTED HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

"J"/GRIDNEY/ YidWithLid also expects us all to take him at his & his spouse's word that this victim of his did something to his mother to try to 'drive her to a heart attack.' No proof however - as usual, just words.

And as she said on her site (which we found out she closed for a while to try to calm him down), if she (or anyone) had done something that heinous and he has hard proof? Why isn't she in jail or doing community service?

3. "J"/GRIDNEY also says it was consensual, but neglects to mention that none of his targets knew he:
- had online sex partner-wanted ads since 2000 (years before he ever contacted these normal women!!)
- was seeing sexual escorts at a brothel (the brothel is now closed in part to him threatening this same victim, her going to the police and the police finding out that he was posting online about his exploits at this brothel. Good going, "J"/GRIDNEY!)
- the police did some forensic recovery and found his computer to be full of porn and his credit cards traced back to phone sex lines from 1999/ 2000?

Did we mention he's tried to erase it all and say it never existed? Sound familiar?

Lying, telling some normal woman you just met online she's the only one, playing mind games with her, moving in on her when she & her husband are separating, not supporting her when her husband finds out about their online affair and abuses her worse, hitting on her friends (we have evidence he hit on THREE of the friends of the first target!!) and she's mentally & emotionally vulnerable, as well as having a 'hidden agenda' does not make for consensual.

It does make for predatory exploitation.

4. "J"/GRIDNEY wants this victim to withdraw her copyright to EOPC. Why? because some of their chats are on our site - and that's TOO MUCH PROOF OF HOW HE ABUSES TRUSTING WOMEN!!!  She asked in March 2007, before we ran his story again. We refused.

Additionally, law enforcement gave all her chats to another of his targets and this other woman, as well as law enforcement gave us permission to use them! We were sensitive enough to not use certain chats that we were given at the very-person-he's-blaming's request. She wanted to protect his family and identity. Now of course, she's getting all his blame.  No good deed goes unpunished.

5. "J"/GRIDNEY/ YidwithLid on his hate website about his vendetta says to one poster that he was angry that this target posted about him on an MSN Group.

Wait! Those are support groups for victims? Now, how did he find her there? Was he surfing for her? Reading everything she wrote and vented and cried about? Yes! He did!

In her 2004 interview with us his Target #1 told us that once the support site owners told her he was coming there and clicking on her story? She tried to get it all removed and the site owners refused. This victim left the support site partly because of this. Just like we refused. That's the nature of the policies of our sites and she wasn't the only person who wrote us about him!

According to guys like"J"/GRIDNEY/ YidWithLid - victims aren't allowed be hurt, complain or look for support either.  They are allowed to be portrayed as SCORNED WOMEN.  LOL - How's that for 'nice guys'?

DOUG BECKSTEAD - an "investigator" from the Air Force Base with which Beckstead's associated wrote us and subsequently, one of his victims trying to find out who she was, get her to phone them, etc etc. How much should we bet that it was one of Beckstead's friends trying to be sure who blew the whistle on his online predation so he could attack & bully her?

And guess what! Beckstead was mentioned in this very Air Force Base's newspaper so - must have been looking to clean up his image before they added to his overblown ego.

Rumor has it he's got another one 'on the hook' already. Don't we already know what he's telling her? And check the update we just did on him and all the stuff he's posted all over the web - trying to drown out the truth and glorify his 'reputation' when he's really a predator!

JULIA BISH-JUDAH-HUNT-McGOVERN? Just look at her interview. That says it all about how 'innocent' she considers herself after meeting men online and marrying them without even meeting them in person, among other things.

PHIL HABERMAN - click here for an update on this story.

The "scorned woman" defense.
The "they are lying/ making it all up/ just jealous/ never happened" defense.

You name it - you'll hear it with these people. Unfortunately sometimes their families or friends still believe them. Until its too late and they are caught doing it again. Do we see a pattern here?

As the article above says: IT'S NEVER THEIR FAULT. MUST BE THE INVISIBLE PERSON! NEVER THEM!

By the way, any Cyberpath who wants to write a full and accurate confession as well as an open, honest apology to any of the victims they have hurt, caused emotional & mental trauma, forced into counseling, sent to the hospital from trauma, caused rifts in their families, raged at, used and abused... we would be more than happy to publish it for you and see to it your victims get a copy of your healing words as well. (cyberpaths@gmail.com) If you would also like counseling for your issues in using people in this way - EOPC would be more than happy to help you find appropriate psychological help in your area.