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Ethical Reasoning Class

If you ever take an Ethical Reasoning class, basically through EVERYTHING you believe in as ethical and moral and throw it out the door!  And I am not shittin you!

 

Now granted the ethical reasoning class I went to is a class of 6 total classes to become a drug/alchol counslor in the state of NE, so we had to learn a couple of laws that are used as a drug and alchol clients and counselors.  And half of us were either just starting the classes and the other half were working LDACs or Social Workers who work with addicts.  What just boggles those of us new to these classes is the fact counselors have to juggle not just the federal law on confidentiality but also the State Law of reporting abuse of any kind!  Thus why you take the Ethical Reasoning class and find out that everything you normally would think and do is WRONG!!!!!!!

 

When a counselor deals with issues we have 4 main choices to choose from after we do our ethical reasoning and decision:

 

1.  Legal and ethical, or

2.  Legal and unethical, or

3.  Illegal and ethical, or

4. illegal and unethical

 

Out of our four choices, we were told that we really do NOT ever want to choose #4 but that we would choose #s 1-3 all the time in our wide range of issues and decisions.  Amazing huh?  That we would choose illegal and ethical or legal and unethical but trust me after dealing with some secenarios that actual counselors had to deal with, you would be amazed at how many times you would choose illegal and ethical or legal and unethical!  We were also told and it made total sense that when laws are in conflict with this profession, the bigger wins except when smaller is tougher!

 

Then we got a very brief introduction into the Stages of Ethical/Moral Reasoning.  Which made EVERYONE's brains go to mush!  We were taught that Lawrence Kohlberg is the champion of research in the area of moral development and if you are going to buy any books (modern) to make sure you look in the back to make sure that Kohlberg is listed as a source.  Paiget took a lot of works include Freud's (which was pointed out that Freud may have been wrong on a lot of things in a lot of ppl's views but he was right on a lot of things that are used across the board by many ppl!)  and even though Paiget is now dismissed with a lot of his research in moral reasoning, he is credited with having accelerated the effer to understand psychology of moral reasoning which includes Kohlberg's stages of of Moral/Ethical Reasoning that we use today. 

 

LDACs and other counselors always look at their final decision they make for a client and then look at what stage of Moral/Ethical REason they are using.  And what is so upsetting but not suprising is that once a person starts working as any form of counselor, their Moral/Ethical Reason goes from what they dub a Jr. High level after a few years working back down to an Infant level.  Because they start out with good intentions and follow through with them, they get in trouble either via their organization or the law for being a truely ethical and moral counselor!  So after that, they revert back to the infant level to cover their butts because they have been burned!

 

There are three main catagories of Moral/Ethical Reasoning that are then broken into 6 stages that we use today:  (I am going to use an example from our ethics manual)

 

Stage 1:   If I don't take the course I'll get in trouble.  (Infant-Concerned with self)

Stage 2:  I need the CEU's, so I'll take the course.  (Toddler-Concerned with self)

These two stages fall into the Preconventional Level of Reasoning that the majority of ppl revert back to once working in a counseling and other profession after a few years.

 

Stage 3:  I'll take the course because I know the presenters are truly wonderful human beings and I want them to like me. (Jr. High-Social/Group Concern)

Stage 4:  I'll go because my boss told me to and thus it's my duty.  (Law & Order-Social/Group Concern)

These two stages fall into the Conventional Level of Reasoning that the majority of ppl who do NOT work in counseling professions funtion at (before they become counselors!) and the level that the majority of those ppl in professoins as Police Officers, Medical professions, Judiciary professions, and the Military function at.

 

Stage 5:  I'll go because I have accepted a job as a counselor, and have thus also accepted the responsibility to discharge my duties in an ethical manner.  (Negotiation to find balance)

Stage 6:  I'll take the course out of respect for dignity of my clients, who deserve, simple by virtue of being a human, to be treated in accordance with the highest possible ethical standards.  (Individal vs. Social)

These two stages fall into the Postconventional, Autonomous, or Principled Level of Reasoning that very few ppl ever fall into.  What is so suprising is that the US Constitution was written to these two levels by 30-45 year old White men who were slave owners and they thought and wrote like this when the Constitution was being constructed.  The same with the Magna Carta.  Any Country that has been through a lot and still flurised and wrote laws and other things at this level have flurished and have functioned orginally at this level of Reasoning!

 

Amazing isn't it.  And I am not done with the things I have learned!  We also had to learn about putting 4 factors into play after we came to our Decision and our Rational of why we got there.  Those Rules as they were dubbed in our class are:

 

Beneficence--the duty to promote welfar of, and prevent harm to, all persons we serve.  Whic extendes to the community and is a must for all counselors to pursue. 

 

Nonmaleficence--the duty to do no harm Sounds Wiccany to me if you ask me!  This actual principle is traceable back to Hippocrates.  In other words, we have a duty to avoid potential harmful multiple relationships with not only our clients but their families.

 

I was very happy to hear in this class, that I and my friend that went to this class who are Pagans, were NOT the only ones that had a HUGE problem with Nonmaleficence.  In reality there is NO such thing as doing NO HARM to ANYONE!  And when a few of us brought this up to the Ethics Presentors, it was explained to us that we are correct, somone is ALWAYS going to get harmed in what ever decsioin we make and our job is to ethical come to a decision as to who is going to get the least amount of harm presented to them!

 

Rspect for Client Autonomy--duty to recognize the client's right to make her/his own decisios, at the same time the substantial influence we have over those decisions and the potential conflict between duty to respect client autonomy and the duty to prevent harm

 

Justice-- the duty to treat individuals fairly, provide equal access to services regardless of race, disability, appearance religion age gender ethnicity intelligence, sexual orientation, national ancestory, martial economic educational or social status

 

Then after learning all about these lovely things, we got told there is of course no book that we can resort to when we have delimias.  Suprise Suprise!:P

 

Anyway, I got a lot out of the class even if I didn't agree with some of the decisions that were eventually made by unknown counselors scenarios that we were presented and had to make our own decisions over!  But that is why in the Ethical/Moral Reasoning class there is truely no right or wrong answer to any of your decisions!  This class was to help you think in an ethical manner and then be able to explain your decision and WHY!  We learned to always ask WHY we came to any decision in anything more than 5 times because then and only then would we come to the true understand at what is at the core of our ethical reasoning!

 
 
   
 

dreaming the night, dreaming good night
i've been listening to the song "Question!" by System of a Down on repeat for the past few days. I like the song, but it's because i'm doing something with it for a school project. System is a really cool band that i never reallly got too in to. after doing research, however, i have much more respect for them.

moving on!

you'd think going back to school from spring break would be a drag, but after the spring break i had, school feels wonderful. i got an A on my 3d project that i worked on for all spring break, so it was a big relief. nothing like a good, stressful spring break to make you really appreciate school. It's still kicking my ass, but i'm going to still try. i dont' know if i can really make it out, but i'm going to try to keep up with all my classes.

today felt a bit crazy to me. i didn't get too much done, but it's ok. i talked with other people about artwork/designwork. it's surprising how fucking hard it is to get someone to justify his or her reason for liking or not liking something. how are we, as artists, supposed to visually communicate something if we can't even begin to communicate verbally? we don't all have the gift to speak with grace and clarity, but if someone asks why someone likes or dislikes something, you've got to at least try to answer. "Just because" just doesn't cut it for me. Why would i ask a question to get that kind of response? are we just getting so lazy? do we not want to think? do we not want to let people know what we think? are our thoughts that sacred? is it just that we go with a gut instinct of what we like and don't like, but dont' realize or haven't thought about WHY we feel how we do?

that's a lot of questions.

we ask a lot of questions. when i took creative writing in my senior year in high school, the teacher mentioned that. We ask so much, and it's like the only way we even bother to try to talk to each other. "how are you?" He mentioned something about doing the opposite of that Whose Line is it Anyway? game... i think it was a game where the players could only speak in questions. instead of speaking in questions, my teacher's version was that we don't ask questions at all.

i dont' know what that really had to do with anything, but... just something to think about! just a random rambling from my rotting noggin. heh, i said noggin.
 
 
 

   
Chin up and facing the world
Well I didn't get the job with Manpower, ah well shrugs such is life, they say everything in life happens for a reason, I often wonder at times like this what the reason is I don't get jobs I really want.  But right now for some reason it's more a resigned oh well such is life sort of thing, guess they will never know how good I would have been for the company but well never mind, as the heading says, just keep swimming, just keep swimming and all will be fine.  I'm pretty upbeat all things being equal, which is nice to feel after a rejection,   I did get some positive a few hours later in the form of a call from another company who have now put me forward for a role in the National Assembly working for Siemens maintaining the computers at £9 an hour (about $16).  I'll be honest if I was earning that much even for the few months it is a good way to start getting life back on track.  I know it's cart before the horse time etc. but right now I want to remain optimistic on something! 

I am thinking the Gods and Goddess's have their plan for me and well whilst I work towards my own goals in life, the ones I achieve are there for a reason and the rejections are there for a reason too.  It seems a few friends are in transition too and well my thoughts are with them also.  I don't know first hand what they are going through in some cases but in others indeed I do know enough of what is going on.  Have faith in yourselves my friends that whatever happens right now is possibly going to be traumatic on you but at the same time will give you what you so rightly deserve and well also I hope gives you the happiness that you seek.  If you need my shoulder to rest on you have it.  I've got a good feeling about the coming days for everyone including myself.

Love to everyone

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Introduction to bloghumbug.mind...
I just moved into an older farm house and I have a bannister to decorate for Christmas.  So there is to be no humbug this year.  What this baby really is supposed to be is a photoblog, only I don't know how to post pics.  I have been experiementing with PhotoPaint for several years; not knowing how much I've actually learned, I enjoy what I've been able to come up with and wanted to share some of it.  I'm looking for an audience.  So far I have not invited anyone to view my bloggery, but if anyone oUt tHeRe who can tell me how to set this baby up for a photo show happens to look here, you probably also know how to let me know.  Peace, Baby!
 
 
 

 
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