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THOUGHTS and WORDS of the DAMNED
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For most of my life I found it hard to relate to some of the more “religious” people and also, it seemed, they to me. For them, it was not nearly enough that I thought that their Jesus, if he'd ever really existed, had had some good ideas; nor was it nearly enough that I thought peace and love the two great virtues of life and the two which their Jesus seemed bravely to teach; and not nearly enough that I had tried myself—though I'd failed—to be a nonviolent and loving man; and not nearly enough that I thought their Jesus, as he was portrayed in their “holy” book, a good and courageous man truly and sincerely interested in helping and serving the needy and the poor.

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No, some of these “religious” people seemed to want me to "believe" or to believe "in" Jesus (a distinction I never quite understood), and neither option was a habit of mind I thought conducive to social harmony and world peace or, without better evidence and more rational argument, compatible with good sense. Though they told me their Jesus was not dead but “living” and even “present” and some, even, that they themselves had a “personal relationship” with Jesus, they obviously used these words—“living,” “alive,” “present,” “personal relationship”—in senses much different from the common, everyday meanings of these words.

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If I suggested that they perhaps meant "living" and "present" not in a physical but only in a spiritual sense, they demurred. No, they insisted, they meant that their Jesus was both spiritually and physically "alive" and "present." But Jesus, it was clear, did not “live” as these advocates for “belief” now “lived,” for example, nor was Jesus now ever “present” in the same way they themselves were “present.” I could not shake the hand of Jesus as I could shake theirs, nor could I give him a hug as I could hug these Christians who were undeniably “alive,” “living,” and “present.” I did have with them what we could agree was a “personal relationship,” and it was obvious that their “personal relationship” with Jesus was of a much different kind.

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A few of these people even considered it a part of their “mission,” or so they called it, to persuade me and others to "believe" or to believe "in" this Jesus. But "believing" and “belief” were just not the same type of mental activity for me as it was for these "believers." I had few if any "beliefs" on the big issues of life—where life, earth, and the universe had all come from, for example, or where it was all going, or where and how it would all end, or what we were supposed to do, how we were supposed to live, while we wandered in the mystery and infinity of the universe. Me, I wasn't sure. These big mysteries tended to make me cautious.

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I was not afraid to live or to die, though of course like everyone else I hoped not to suffer and linger in terrible pain or to become in my infirmity too great a burden on others. No, on the big mysteries of life, on the big questions of existence, there was little if anything I felt I knew for certain. Where others said they had "faith" and "belief" unsupported by evidence or logic, I had only hopes, curiosity, and questions. The very few "beliefs" I did have I considered very tentative indeed, so tentative they were hardly real "beliefs" at all. I held them lightly, warily, and, as I had been taught by all of my best teachers in school, I worked hard to maintain an open mind.

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If I myself had any “mission” at all, and normally I would say that I did not, I supposed it was no more than to foster in world society this attitude—to open my mind, to be patient, to listen, to study, to think, to be peaceable and kind. I had come to see religious “beliefs” not as aids but as obstacles to justice and peace, just as I had come to see “god” not as an ultimate answer but as a question. Ultimate answers, I thought I'd learned, closed minds; questions opened them.

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If persuasive evidence should appear, I would surrender an earlier “belief” readily, try to make myself comfortable with my not knowing, try to integrate any new data, any new argument, into my understanding, and then reformulate my opinion of the whole matter. I was a reader, a writer. My habit of mind was patient, deliberate. If any assertion did not make sense to me, then I withheld my assent to the proposition and I asked any questions that seemed likely to aid me in determining its credibility. In this endeavor I was a hard man to hurry, or so I had been told, and I was innately curious, inquisitive, and relatively fearless in study and inquiry.

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I seemed to be surrounded by institutions, organizations, and individuals exhorting me to buy this, to buy that, to believe this, to believe that, to do this, to do that, to agree to this, to agree to that, and this welter of competing claims, temptations, and appeals only made me even more careful and more skeptical and even slower finally, if ever, to decide. The more their zeal, the more that others attempted to persuade me of the urgency of their pleas and of the urgency of my assent, the more suspicious to me seemed both appeal and appellant.

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To me "belief" was one possible consequence, though not necessarily so, of my personal experience, my education, learning, knowledge, evidence, and reason. A “belief” was not something I could imagine myself ever embracing as a result of dread or fear inspired by warning or exhortation: “Believe or else!” Perhaps I was just not smart enough to grasp the concept. Some Christians suggested that I repeat after them: “I accept Jesus as my personal lord and savior!” They advised me to express my belief in this way almost as if these words or others like them were magic words, incantations, invocations: “Jesus is God!”

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Some suggested that I kneel, fold my hands in “prayer,” and invite their Jesus into my heart. Others asked me to recite aloud esoteric, complex creeds, replete with capital letters, in unison with other "believers" in religious assembly: “I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth, and in Jesus Christ, His Son, our Lord.” But repeating someone else’s words made me feel uncomfortable. I felt like a plagiarist, a cheater, inauthentic, in some way less than genuine; and then, too, some of their words sounded foreign to my ears.

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What was a “lord,” for example? That wasn’t a word I’d ever used before. Was a “lord” an aristocrat, a noble, a slave master, a commander, or what? Plus I had never met this man Jesus. It didn’t seem wise to say that I would accept this mysterious stranger as my “lord.” To what, exactly, was I promising and agreeing? About this there seemed even among the Christians themselves significant differences of opinion, and yet, despite the lack of anything even remotely approaching consensus let alone unanimity, one Christian would declare himself or herself certain and sure of the “true” meaning of the vow and of the "belief"—as would the next Christian, equally certain and sure, though he or she held a contradictory opinion.

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Strangely, their own differences of opinion did not inspire in these “believers” the same doubts and questions and intellectual humility that diversity of opinion seemed habitually to inspire in me. Who spoke for this Jesus and by whose authority? Jesus himself had never spoken personally to me nor, so far as I could tell, had he spoken personally to these “believers” who exhorted me to “believe.” Yet some of these “believers” insisted nevertheless that they had a "personal" relationship with their "lord" and that they “knew” their interpretations of “belief” and of “gospel” were correct, and many claimed to have not even a single doubt that this was so.

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Their references to Jesus, however, remained for me not much different from references to Napoleon or to Julius Caesar, and neither the passionate speeches nor the behavior of those inviting me, urging me, or exhorting me to "believe" appeared indicative of any human conduct I myself wanted to emulate. Indeed, when these advocates of “belief” insisted upon the exclusivity of their “belief” and called it the “only” true way, they too often sounded patronizing, condescending, smug, even intolerant; and these attitudes only reminded me of the terrible crimes in the past that other people with a similar “belief” had perpetrated upon victims they considered "heretics," “unbelievers,” “nonbelievers,” and "infidels" and, yes, even upon people, like me, who had merely expressed what I considered quite moderate and eminently reasonable reservations and doubts about the extravagant claims made for this apparently powerless and invisible "lord," “savior,” and “god.”

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Their word “savior” felt the same. From what, exactly, would this “lord” Jesus supposedly “save” me? Though there were suffering people I wished I could save or protect from harm, from crime, deprivation, and war, at this time I felt healthy, happy, productive, fulfilled, loving, and loved, and in no need of "saving." Could this Jesus "save," I wondered, the famished, the starving, the injured, the sick, the sad, and the dying that I watched on television? Since Jesus did not, it appeared that Jesus could not. So far, the magic words—“belief,” “lord,” “god,” and “savior”—seemed to lack sufficient power to arrest the terrible human suffering in the world.

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Why had this "lord" and “savior” not exercised his magic power, I wondered, to stop, as I'd read in the newspaper, the grandfather's pet raccoon from eating the nose and lips of his infant granddaughter as she lay helpless in her crib? Having both the knowledge of such horror and the power to stop it, why had this “lord” Jesus not done so? Though my Christian friends tried their best to explain the omission to me, their explanations were quite complex and required my understanding of even more Christian terminology and dogma and, despite my honest efforts to follow their theological arguments, after all was said and done their answers appeared to me little more than empty rationalizations of the behavior of their “all-knowing” and “all-powerful” lord, god, and “savior.” Just like me, it seemed clear, the “believers” really didn’t know the answer to my question.

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Some of the Christians who spoke to me of their “belief” said they were now "saved" from "sin," and they insisted that from "sin" I also needed "saving," but the word "sin" was yet another word I had difficulty understanding. To my queries, some Christians responded with still other words and concepts I could not understand—a "fall," they said, an "original” sin committed by some other person who lived and died thousands of years before I existed, and a "depravity" which they said was the given condition of all human beings simply by reason of their birth on earth. Alas, I understood nothing of all this and, instead of persuading me, their tales of an ancient, perfect garden and of a talking snake or serpent only increased my skepticism.

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I needed to "confess" my "sin," my "depravity," to the "lord," the Christians told me, and to ask my "savior" for his "forgiveness," as these Christians said they themselves had done, but so far as I knew I had done no wrong whatsoever to this mysterious man Jesus. He had lived, after all, two thousand years before I was even born, and, despite all of this “sin,” “depravity,” and “confession” the Christians told me about, these Christians all appeared to me to be ordinary human beings pretty much the same as I.

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The ideological baggage that their "belief" seemed to require of "believers" was more than I cared to lug along with me on my brief journey among the stars. Some of the Christians packed their "holy" books, their bibles, and concordances to accompany them when they traveled both here on earth and on the fathomless, vast ocean of mind. I had only the simple remark of my Aunt Rosalie, "My religion is be kind and my church is whoever I'm with." I preferred traveling light.

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As I aged and matured, remorse and regret seemed to become increasingly more natural to me. I learned to recognize sooner my failures. I more readily acknowledged my many mistakes, and I tried as best I could to be quick to apologize for my own wrongs and to be equally quick to forgive others for theirs. It was difficult for me to see much value in dragging some mysterious "lord," “god,” and "savior" into this elementary process. Both the Christians and the non-Christian "followers of Christ," those who said they had no religion but rather a "personal relationship" with their "lord" and "savior," seemed to me no happier than I, no more free of sadness and suffering than I. Indeed, many seemed much less so.

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Some of these “believers,” in fact, who explained that they had "confessed" their "sins" to the "lord" and claimed they had been "forgiven" and "saved" by their “lord” and “god” and been "reborn" seemed still tormented by their failures to please and to satisfy their "savior" and "lord," and some spent hours in what they called "prayer," a mental activity which resembled ordinary thanking and wishing and hoping, or so I guessed from their descriptions of "prayer." Some Christians did, it seemed, invest their "praying" with more intensity than in a child's everyday wishing upon a star, but they were unable to point to any better results.

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At the urging of some Christians (and also some of the non-Christian followers of Jesus) I read the Bible. Some of these missionaries had traveled to other continents to distribute copies of this “holy” book to “unbelievers” and to people who followed the teachings of other “gods” and sages. Later, after I had read the Jewish scriptures, to which Christians applied the ethnocentric and pejorative label “old,” and also the Christian scriptures, the “new,” I was skeptical of this practice, since the “god” or “lord” of the “old” text was not merely hostile but homicidal toward peoples other than those this “lord” considered “his” own “chosen” favorite people to whom he had, strangely, "promised" lands upon which others already lived.

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Disseminating this book and calling it “holy” would hardly seem a friendly, neighborly gesture, I thought, to the many descendants of the unfortunate ethnic peoples this “lord” and “god” had tortured and murdered by the tens of thousands in the stories collected in this “holy” book. Indeed, to promulgate such a literature seemed certain to offend; yet the believers “in” Jesus seemed oblivious to the possibility of such an offense, just as they had been oblivious, it seemed, to the arrogance and condescension inherent in calling the “holy” book of Judaism an “old” testament and their own better, improved supplement to it a “new” testament. Or perhaps, as I could not help but suspect, some did understand these insults, slights, and offenses and just simply didn’t care.

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In the book about Jesus, I was eager to read what this man himself had written about his being a “god” but, as it turned out, Jesus himself never wrote anything, I learned, and the stories of his life and teachings were recorded by only four followers who actually knew him personally in life. Nor, according to these four biographers of their “lord,” had Jesus ever just flat come out and said, “I am god.” When, puzzled, I mentioned this omission to some of the “believers” who had urged me to read these stories of his life and teachings, they offered elaborate interpretations and explanations of other passages in the text, other remarks their “lord” was reported to have said, that in my Christian friends’ opinion were “almost” the “same” thing as his actually saying in exactly so many words that he was “god.”

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But I must confess that these interpretations were to me somewhat disappointing given the indubitable certitude with which my friends had made the claims of divinity for their “lord” and “savior.” According to at least one of his contemporary biographers, Jesus did say, “I am the way.” To my reading and understanding, it seemed that Jesus meant by this that "the way" to fulfillment and happiness is through human conduct like the example of Jesus himself, through nonviolence, honesty, generosity, kindness, selflessness, and love, advice with which I had always heartily concurred. Thus Jesus "returned" in the flesh every time someone responded to violence with nonviolence, to revenge with forgiveness, to lies with honesty, to ego with humility, to anger and hatred with love, I suggested to my Christian acquaintances.

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But they were impatient with this opinion and, like the doubting Thomas in the story they had asked me to read, they insisted upon the eventual material and physical reappearance of their invisible “lord.” This would certainly be a miracle, I conceded, and if it were ever really to happen, which, to be entirely honest, I felt obliged to confess I doubted, well, then the sooner the better, I added. Still, it did not seem wise for either the “believers” or the doubters to hold their breaths until this miracle transpired, as it had been already quite some time since the death of this “god,” since the miraculous resurrection reported by his biographers, and since his equally mysterious passing, ascension, and disappearance, a 2000-year absence.

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Though some of my Christian friends thought the inevitability of his promised “second coming” should inspire fear in unbelievers, agnostics, and skeptics, it did not inspire fear in me. Why, I wondered, would anyone fear perfect justice? Little did I understand. My reluctance to “believe” that such an event would occur, I learned from the “believers,” evidently insured that after death I would be tortured and tormented forever in a place called Hell or, some Christians suggested, at the very least I would be condemned to an eternal lonely posthumous consciousness ever devoid of the presence of the one true "god."

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I tried to explain to them that I felt I was already in the presence of “god” here on earth at the present time, among my family and friends, loving and loved, engaged in the noble endeavor to foster peace and harmony, thrilled by the countless horrors and delights of nature and the universe; but, despite my protests, Christian acquaintances labeled such statements of mine "delusions" and pitied me, or they dismissed them outright as bald-faced lies.

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My reluctance to accede to declarations of the divinity of Jesus, first, because I had never met the man and, second, because I did not really understand what the word "god" really meant, seemed enough for some Christians to conclude that unless before death I changed my mind I was “damned.” Many well-intentioned “believers” cited the multiple choice test—Jesus is either a “god,” a lunatic, or a liar—proposed by C.S. Lewis, but it seemed to me that Lewis, another man I did not know, offered too few options. To my academic mind it appeared that Jesus, in his own historical time, had been unaware of his global particularity. He’d had no knowledge, it appeared, of the world philosophers and sages of other cultures and peoples who had lived before him nor of kind, wise contemporaries who lived in other parts of the world.

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Jesus knew, it seemed obvious from the synoptic “gospels,” only the traditions and histories of his own religion, region, and culture. To me it seemed strange that an omniscient "god" would not know of Buddha or Purna or Mahavira or Lao Tsu or Confucius or Socrates or Plato. But neither did I object to the suggestions of his advocates that Jesus was a child of a "god," the son of a "god," or even an "only" son of "the only" god. Indeed, I liked the idea that all life contained within it a spark of “god,” the reality of “god.” I liked the idea that all who lived were children of “god.” If the “believers” demanded that Jesus were the “only” child of god, well, I didn’t mind, I told them, since if any human deserved to be called a “god” their Jesus probably did. “Blessed are the peacemakers,” he is reported to have said, “for they shall be called children of god.”

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If the incredible stories about Jesus were true even in part, it seemed he had been a brave, nonviolent, and—though not so forgiving as I would have wished—a forgiving man. As for what a “god” really is, though, and how “god” might be defined, I remained still uncertain and, when my Christian friends began by attributing, first, omniscience and, then, omnipotence to “god” and therefore also to Jesus, we had come full circle, alas, and we were right back where we had started. If their “god” knew of the baby and of the raccoon and had possessed the power to save the baby from the horror, why had their “god” not done so?

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If, as Christians claimed, their “god” saw all the horrors of human suffering in the world and heard all the prayers of its blameless victims, many of them innocent of any serious wrongdoing, and could return to make things right and indeed planned one day to return to make things right, then their “god” seemed incredibly stoic to have done nothing for 2000 years. I thought of the man who was arrested for roasting his toddler daughter in his kitchen oven because she wet her pants. He confessed. "Please, Daddy, let me out," he said his daughter pled with him. "Please. let me out, please, Daddy." Her father did not let her out. Nor did “god” nor did Jesus. Among the "believers," I gave up trying to stifle my sarcasm. Just keep pleading, little girl, I said, just keep praying. Your "daddy" hears you.

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It was equally unclear in the stories of Jesus what “god” expected of his "believers." In one speech he emphasized "belief" or "faith"; in another he emphasized deeds, practice; in another, charity; in another nonviolence; in another, tolerance; and so on. His essential nature remained also in dispute. To the Jews, Jesus was a rabbi, a prophet, a teacher. To the Christians, Jesus was a “god,” a child of “god,” the son of a “god,” or, with a capital letter, God. To the Moslems, Jesus was a prophet of “god,” a messenger of “god.” To the agnostics, Jesus was in most though not all respects a wise man, a good man, a good teacher. Should people engage in war over these semantic distinctions, I wondered, or even in contentious disputes?

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Should one faction predict torture in Hell for the members of other, dissenting factions? None of the four groups totally disavowed his teachings about how to live in this world—nonviolence, honesty, compassion, mercy, kindness, love. What, I wondered, was the quarrel really about? Should people fight over who agrees with Jesus most? Over who praises him most? “He’s a teacher!” “No, he’s a prophet!” “No, he’s a god!” “No, he’s God!” It saddened me and amused me to see disciples of Jesus waving the flag of "the christ," just as the ancient Jews had waved the flag of "the lord," and denigrating other systems of "belief," other "gods," other peoples, and pronouncing them inferior to their own, and then the Moslems, likewise, marching to protest what they considered Christian idolatry. “One god, not three!”

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In them all I seemed to observe the same kind of pride, the same kind of arrogance, the same condescension, the same contempt. Were the world to end today, five billion people, according to the most popular Christian and Moslem “beliefs,” would be and should be condemned to Hell for their lack of the “right” beliefs, and billions and billions more sad souls already dead likewise condemned to Hell, though most were uneducated, poor, confused earthlings just struggling to survive and to raise their children and grandchildren as best they knew how. Now on the day of judgment, according to dogmas of the “believers,” these beings would be tortured in Hell and suffer excruciating pain for all eternity—and for what?

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For having the wrong thoughts, the wrong doubts, the "wrong" belief, "believers" told me; and those with the "right" belief, the "right" thoughts, would be happy forever in "heaven" knowing of the eternal torment of the billions in Hell. Or, if those in heaven did not know of this terrible suffering of others, would, could, such ignorance constitute the promised bliss? To be ignorant of billions tortured in Hell? This was the vision of the "divine" Jesus? This was the reality of a "god"? This was “perfect” justice? Alas, I could not make sense of such a religion. Nor could I do as my Christian friends advised and simply surrender the effort to make sense of it all, abandon logic and reason, and just embrace the absurdity of their "organized" religion and "believe."

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No, I thought not and, like many other people who think, if I were to find myself in such a heaven I hoped I would demand of "god" my release from this prison of bliss so that I might descend into Hell in order to try in some way to alleviate the suffering of those so unjustly tortured and punished for their mental crimes, for their thought crimes, for their all-too-human delusion, confusion, and doubt. This was why the "lord" Jesus, according to Christians, had come to earth in the first place, and it was why Buddhists saw Jesus in this incarnation as a "bodhisattva" who accepted his own suffering in order to free and to save all beings.

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Jesus reformed the cruel, narrow, legalistic church of Judaism of his time and he was labeled a heretic for doing so. Though I could not believe in the power of “prayer,” I did “pray” in my own way that contemporary Jewish, Christian, and Moslem heretics and reformers might do the same for their churches and for the “believers” of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam that were the most narrow, legalistic, and cruel in my own time. So long as beings still suffered on earth or in Hell, I told my “believing” friends and acquaintances, I would decline my ticket to any happy heaven, though they smirked at the naiveté of my imagining there to be any chance such an invitation from their "god" and "savior" might be proffered.

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Nor, after days of reflection and contemplation, could I believe that the "holy" books I had been asked to read were the "word of god" or the "absolute" truth. In my reading of them I had been alternately entertained, instructed, horrified, and bored. In the stories and songs collected therein I had discovered—from "god," from "prophets" of "god," and from the "son" of "god"—counsel I considered very good, good, okay, not bad, bad, very bad, and appalling. The "bible" and the "gospel," I concluded in my typically slow, deliberate, academic way were not the history of “god” but only the incomplete and partial history of humankind's eternally evolving understanding of what the concept of "god" means and of the meaning of "god."

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Could written language perhaps limit understanding? Was there a reason, perhaps, that Jesus himself never wrote anything down? The myth of Eden, Adam, Eve, Satan, and the talking snake and the myth of Noah, the Ark, the animals, and the Flood seemed to me not history but allegory and poetry. Such myths, read symbolically, could be understood as insights into the human condition. If I read these myths and songs in this way and discovered allegorical and poetic insight and truth in them, was I saying that I “believed” them or that I did not “believe” them? It depended, I found out, on whom I asked. I used my mind when I read, just as all readers did, and I used my reason to decide what was credible and true and what was incredible and false, just as all readers did. I knew no other way to read and to think.

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I did believe that the myths, legends, stories, poems, songs, histories, and chronicles that made up the bible and gospel were written and collected by well-intentioned men acting honestly and sincerely. In places, I appreciated their efforts and insights and, in other places, I deplored their ignorance, arrogance, intolerance, cruelty, and bias and I pitied them. The “bibles” of Jews, Christians, and Moslems were human documents, I decided. It appeared quite clear to me from my reading that “gods”—and I was still unsure of what "gods" were—did not write books, though “gods” did, it seem, speak to some men, if I chose to believe the men who said so, and “gods” apparently had also requested of such men that they write down the words of these “gods.”

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But though I myself had experienced "god," no "god" had ever spoken words to me. As for the words of "god" that other men recorded, I chose to “believe” some parts of the “divine” and “holy” text and to disbelieve some other parts. All readers did exactly the same. How did we decide? We all decided in the same way—by using our minds. Did I think that Jesus offered good advice about life? Yes, with the one exception of condemnation and Hell. Did I think the "lord" that condemned, in the Jewish scriptures, a man to death by stoning for gathering wood on the Sabbath was the true "god"? Certainly not. Did I think the "lord" that "promised" a land to a "chosen" people was the true "god"? No, certainly not. Such obvious ethnocentric bias appeared to my academic mind far beneath any "god" that I could imagine.

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The collection of books others called the "bible" did seem to me a sincere effort to try to understand what the word "god" means. But for many like me the meaning of "god" had grown, evolved, and expanded so that we could recognize the ethnocentrism and bias of ancient efforts to compose portraits of “god.” The jealous, envious, vain, angry, homicidal, genocidal "lord" of the Hebrew scriptures seemed clearly the human projection of "his" "believers," nearly all of them men, and obviously not an all-knowing, all-powerful deity. No thinking person like me could believe the agent of such unjust, vindictive acts was a true “god.”

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When Jesus said, "I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves; be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves," I considered this good advice. When the "lord" said to the parents of a drunken son, "Stone him to death," I considered this advice criminal and unworthy of a good man, let alone a "god." I could not believe "in" a "god" who punished by torture and death thousands of people for no other reason than their thought crimes. I certainly would not "worship" such a "god." Almost no one in the United States believed human beings should be tortured or destroyed for what they thought. Yet some people "worshiped" a "god" who, according to “holy” books, had done so over and over again. It made no logical sense, of course, but that was what happened to the human mind, it seemed, when so-called "truths" of “god” were poured into it from birth and infancy onward.

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My students and I had been studying these questions for six weeks and our discussions were fresh in my mind. I used my mind and reason and common sense when I read all the "holy" books, the Torah, the Gospel, the Epistles, the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Diamond Sutra, the Book of Mormon, the Odyssey, the Iliad, and so on. I tested what I read against my personal experience. I considered what others said, what others wrote, what others thought. I read, I thought, I compared, I learned.

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Stone a man to death for disobeying his parents in order to show other people what is right? Hmm, no, I thought not. God and "his people"? Hmm, well, and who then were all those other people not "his"? Obstacles in the way of "his people," the story went, so “god” destroyed them. Hmm, well, no, I thought not. When I expressed such opinions, Christian friends accused me of being angry with “god.” But this was not so. I was not angry at “god” nor even annoyed with “god.” I found the chroniclers and interpreters of “god” amusing, especially when they reiterated the doctrines and dogmas of their indoctrination. Those who claimed that the whole "bible" was true and the word of "god," it seemed obvious, were just repeating something a parent or minister had told them. No “god” had told them this, no “god” had spoken to them.

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Their "righteousness" and certitude had little, really, to do with “god.” The "believers" were just as empty-handed as I and, though they cited text from the "holy" books they'd read and judged me and called me names and shouted and swore and prayed and sang in their assemblies of like-minded "believers," their pride and their sanctimonious declarations of their "faith" and "belief" did not move me. I'd read the same books they had read, I'd thought just as hard as they, and I'd come to a different conclusion.

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God, it seemed to me, revealed “god” in many ways. Books were one facet of “god,” nature another, good people another, kind people another, death another, art another, blogging another. The facets of “god” seemed infinite. What Christians called the “old” testimony seemed to me at times hilarious, a comedy of shallow human stupidity and cruelty, much of it falsely attributed to “god.” Yet hilarity and absurdity and laughter were also facets of “god.” The sunshine glinting through my window as I wrote—still another facet of “god.”

 
 
   
 

Did you ever wonder why we are in Iraq from a Biblical prospective?
Read down to the very bottom highlighted in green:

VERY INTERESTING-

1. The Garden of Eden was in
Iraq

2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization!


3.
Noah built the ark in Iraq

4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq

5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq !

6. Isaac's wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq !

7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq


8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq


9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel

10. Amos cried out in Iraq !

11 Babylon , which is in Iraq , destroyed Jerusalem


12. Daniel was in the lion's den in Iraq !

13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the Fiery Furnace!)

14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the "writing on the wall" in Iraq

15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq


16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq ..

17. The wise men were from Iraq ..

18. Peter preached in Ir aq


19. The "Empire of Man" described in Revelation is called Babylon;
which was a city in Iraq!

And you have probably seen this one: Israel is the nation most often mentioned in theBible.

But do you know which nation is second?
It is
Iraq!

Though the name that is used in the Bible are:
Babylon , Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia .
 
The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris And Euphrates Rivers ..

Indeed Iraq is
a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible.

No other nation, except Israel , has more history and prophecy associated

With it than Iraq

And also, This is something to think about:
Since America is typically represented by an eagle.
Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages
...

The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible)


Koran
( 9:11 ) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the E agle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah;
And
there was peace.

(Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?!

 
 
 

   
No more Children

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Date Line July 3, 2007

 

Thoughts and connections: It seems logical that we should have the new focus on homosexuality (Gray Matters), cross dressing (Mrs. Doubtfire), gender dissociation and redefinition; it seems logical that this should be in a context of lessening priority on having children.

 

Obviously, Right-wing evangelicals have pushed the current agenda. They have pushed it through their irrational and blasphemous attacks on human sexuality.

 

They have also promoted both movements through funding policies in the administrations they control and influence. Primary Education is a necessity for children; pre and post-natal healthcare is a necessity; it is necessary to ensure health and nutrition, if we want children to learn, grow and prosper; but the Right-wing promotes warfare and death..

 

What Right-wing administration, or individual politician, or preacher, advocates peace? Where are they on the military?

Where is the Right-wing, the evangelicals, on the realities of Iraq, or declaring that al-Qaeda are international criminals; and not a stateless nation qualified to declare war upon sovereign states?

 

Albert Einstein spoke of anti-Semitic bigotry as "a state of psychic distemper in the masses." If we look at Einstein, a devout pacifist who understood the need to international police to replace armies, we also see the man who gave us the key to the nuclear bomb.

 

Einstein was not inventing a weapon. Nuclear power, and the bomb, are the work of those who hate humanity, and revere the one they call Satan (when their allegiance God).

 

How do we know their true master, the true master of the Right-wing evangelical? We can look to how they respond to Einstein�s statement: "There is no power on earth from which we should be prepared to accept an order to kill."

 

Right-wing evangelicals, Christians in general, love the preparation to kill more than they love the preparations for their children to live. If you doubt that, again we can point to the funding priorities that they have advanced while in power, and blocked, or opposed, when out of power.

 

The role of a Christian in American society, from before the time of the Salem Witch Trials, has been to brutally kill and justify brutal killing. When have they done otherwise? Even the Mormons went west with guns and a love of killing Indians.

 

What we see in modern society is a rebellion against Christianity. It is clear that people cannot fight against those who kill without remorse in the name of their deity. We cannot fight those who praise the use of the murder of innocents as a means of controlling spectators.

 

We are, in the name of a glorious Christian Crusade (Bush declared it a Crusade, his Christian backers cheered and declared their unbridled support); we are engaged in a mass murder of innocent Iraqis in the name of attacking al-Qaeda.

 

Never mind the realities that al-Qaeda declared the need to eliminate Saddam Hussein; that al-Qaeda declared the need to plunge America into debt; that al-Qaeda declared the need to involve American forces in a quagmire which would block the flow of oil.

 

Bush has, as I have pointed out before, both here and in my newspaper column, done everything which al-Qaeda stated they required of him. It is interesting that Bush has done this with the full and enthusiastic backing of Evangelical Christians, and mainstream Churches.

 

The murder of ones fellow man, violation of a universal command, is the primary, paramount, focus for the community which built its power on the sword and torture. Note that torture, the Inquisitions, to inquire by use of torture, is the primary advocacy of this administration.

 

In terms of prophecy and scripture, which the Christian Right loves to reference, these are the end of days when Christians, the evil force, are to be destroyed by Islamic armies (per the Koran), or simply to be destroyed in accordance with Revelation.

Why do I focus on Christians? Is it that I am anti-Christian? Or is it that I have actually read and understood the scriptures they love to wave about? It is, of course, the latter and not the former.

 

Revelation states that twelve thousand of each of the twelve tribes of Israel will be saved. Revelation states that Jesus

Himself will, as those who come in his name by know him not, and whom he does not know, will denounce these Evangelical and "Universal" Christians.

 

Yes it is natural that children are no longer important. If it is the end of times, and there are no more souls, there can be no more children.

_____________________________________________________

 
 
   
 

Religion at Work

Being a Pagan, I do feel empathatic towards Muslim folks of the US mainly because anyone that is a non-Christian usually gets the shit end of the deal when it comes to time off for holidays, spiritual events, and family events involving their spirituality.  Sure we have laws in place saying that companies and such can not discriminate towards anyone due to their religion but we all know it does happen.  Especially since most of the major holidays that are given Nationally are Christian Based.  Jewish folks have week long holy days, Pagans can celebrate their holy days anywhere from a day to up to a week depending on their path they follow, Muslims are required by their spirituality to pray 5 times a  day and so on and so forth. 

 

Most companies are actually pretty accomidating when it comes right down to it.  Companies do give time off for that popular holy days and holidays to everyone and in most of my working experencie and school experience I have gotten time off for anything I needed that involved Spirituality.  Sure it isn't paid unless I have chosen to use Vacation or Sick time.  Does it suck?  Sure but I also know that the majority of the higher ups and the nation is Christian and they are going to cater to the main religion.  They did it back in pre Christian times with the pagans when Chrstianity was just blooming.  Pagans got all sorts of time off and the Christians were told to get over it.  Much like anyone Non Christian is told to figure things out or get over it.

 

Now what brought this lil blog of mine up is the incidents in MN at the airport and now in Grand Island NE where Muslims are walking or stiring up legal problems due to the need to shove their religion down other ppl's throats by claiming they can't do something due to their religion.  I understand their need to pray when they need to pray.  I really do.  But I also understand that companies can NOT cater to every religion out there in aspects of RUNNING their businesses!

 

Between 70-90 Somilian Muslims walked out of a packing plant because they were NOT given their time to pray 5 times a day.  Now for those of you who don't know packing plants having almsot 100 workers pull off of a line in an 8 hour day is loss of money for the company.  Not to mention time and more work for the next shift of workers that have to make up the time and money that you cost the company.  Most companies that are packing plants are actually some of the best companies to work for if you are a non-christian mainly because they do reley on poor to middle class citizens and legal and illegal ailens to work their plant.  They don't care what religion or spirituality you are as long as your a good hard worker.  They are also some of the best paying jobs if your not afraid to do hard work.  These workers were informed that the company had no problem with praying and has accomedated them with spaces to pray but they had to do it on their breaks.  That was unacceptable to the workers who wanted special privlages to leave the line for all 5 prayer times.  Which is unacceptable for the companies to loose money and time in having that many employees leave their stations to pray.

 

IMO if you know that your spirituality requires you to pray or even if you have specific issues that cause you to leave your job so many times a day then do NOT choose to work at that specific job.  Especially even if you think you are low man on totem pole and if you leave your position it is going to cause major problems for the company YOU chose to work for.  If you are moving into a situation where your lifestyle or spirituality is not fully embraced then you have two opitions.....You either change up your behavor with out comprimising yourself to much or you get out of the sitiuation.  I know folks out there are going it is their spirituality to pray 5 times a day or saying you don't know shit about the Islamic faith.  My response is that yes I know it is their spirituality jsut like being a Druid Student is mine.  I pray through out the day but in modern times I also know that I can't do everything the way it should be done because either items are not availble, time permiting, and even possible fear because ppl don't understand my spirituality.  So I change my behavor with out comprimising myself.  If something is needed to be said or done for my spiriutaily and I can't do it........I do what I can while doing what needs to be done in this modern day and age.  That means chopping veggies while talking to Anu I do.  If that means asking Mannan Mc Lir for some more paitence dealing with my children along the river while getting after them while helping them pull in a pike or a carp I do.  If that means I don't get time to meditate and I am a terrible meditator and I know I need to make the time I wait for the kids to be in bed and lock myself in my bedroom or if the kids are up I lock myself in the bathroom.

 

I would also say your right I don't know much about the Islamic faith besdies they have the Koran, the believe in Mohammad, and they pray 5 times a day.  And that woman should be covered and that woman according to them are evil in almost all aspects but they do respect Islamic women because they are important.  I am in the process of getting around to reading the Koran to have a better understanding and so I am not like the mass of ignorant folks in the world to automatically think all Islamic folks are evil or terrorist. 

 

But I do believe that nobody should have to accomadate their livilhood for someone's inability to comprimise.  If someone or a company is trying to be accomidating and you don't like it then instead of demand negoitating even more.  From what I read the workers walked out after asking and didn't bother negoitaiting more prayer time before they walked.  That would be like my Sister and Mother who are Catholic walking out on their jobs for working on Sundays which if you get technical is against the Cannon of Catholic laws.  They are both RN nurses and choose to be nurses.  They work hospitals that they are required to work weekends once in a while and most hospitals and nursing homes you work every other weekend for your schedule.  If they didn't work Sunday's but went to church instead; they would be held responsible just like their brothers and sisters of the Muslim faith are held responsible for choosing to work a job and then walking out on it due to their religion.  If one of the most feared Christian Faiths can start negoitating with their followers (Catholic church) by saying hey we understand you have to support your families and come to church when you don't have to work then so can any other religion out there.  For Macha's sake, I don't get in trouble by my Gods for blowing off some of the "holy" days as long as I make time for them sometime in the day to tell them hey I am still your daughter and I still honor you and please understand in today's world I have to accomadate not only you but my family and today's world.

 
 
 

   
Rape Is An Overt Weapon in Islam

Rape is often an act of rage by a stronger man against a weaker woman. Rape occurs often during wars. In the nations that are primarily Christian rape is a heinous crime. Nations that should have known better did rape the local inhabitants as their soldiers ravaged the vanquished.

 

Nazi’s did it to Russians.

Russians did to Germans toward the end of WWII.

Serbians (representing the Christians) raped Mohammedan women.

 

This shows every nation is guilty of this atrocity enacted on the weaker sex – women. The Japanese were notorious for raping Chinese and Koreans in WWII. The Japanese even forced Chinese and Koreans to be prostitutes for their conquering armies during the war. Again, it is a shameful display to brutally humiliate women.

 

In none of these cases of horrible rape was it the religious policy of these nations that acted out the brutality against women.

 

There is one religion in the world that it’s Scripture and Traditions use rape as a tool in conflict and war. It is a tool of humiliation first to the women and also to humble fathers and husbands. That religion is Islam.

 

Below are some excerpts from other blogs that proves the abhorrent nature of the religion known as Islam to its adherents (I prefer calling it after its found – Mohammed).

 

RAPING AN INFIDEL WOMAN IS A TICKET TO ISLAMIC PARADISE

United American Committee Official Blog

POSTED BY AYESHA AHMED

 

Quran allows sex with captured and enslaved infidel women. It is in ayas4.3,4.24,23.6,33.5o and 70.30. Mohammed and his followers routinely used to attack non muslim communities pillage them, kill their men and rape their women.

Read the following most reliable muslim sources. BukhareeVolume 5, Book 59, Number 512:

The inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their men killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives, She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet .

Bukharee: Volume 9, Book 93, Number 506: Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: That during the Bani Al-Mustaliq raid they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relation with them without impregnating them. So they asked the Prophet about coitus interruptus.

“Sirat e Rasulullah” by Ishaq, pge 464 After 800-900 male adults of Bani Quraiza were beheaded in batches, and thrown in trenches dug in Madina, the apostle divided their property, wives and children as booty. . He took Rayhana d. Amr b. Khunafa for himself.

The History of Tabari, vol 8, pge 29-30 From his share of captive women, prophet gave his son-in-law, Ali a girl, Raytah bt Hilal to enjoy her at his will. He also presented Uthman b. Affan, his son-in-law, another girl Zainab b. Hayan, and bestowed another girl (name unknown) to his father –in-law Omar Ibn Khattab. Omar gave that girl to his son Abdullah. Most of Prophet’s other elite companions received slave girls as gifts..

According to Quran :
033.021 Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern of conduct for any one who wishes paradise.

Thus capturing an infidel woman and having sex with her is a ticket to paradise. No wonder rape by islamists is rampant in western Europe and Australia.

Following is from Front Page Magazine:
what Front Page Magazine writes:

The  number of rapes committed by Muslim immigrants in Western nations is extremely high.. It resembles warfare. Muhammad himself had forced sex (rape) with several of his slave girls/concubines. This is perfectly allowed, both in the sunna and in the Koran. If you postulate that many of the Muslims in Europe view themselves as a conquering army and that European women are simply war booty, it all makes perfect sense and is in full accordance with Islamic law. Western women are not so much regarded by most Muslims as individuals, but as "their women," the women who "belong" to hostile Infidels. They are booty, to be taken, just as the land of the Infidels someday will drop, it is believed, into Muslim hand. This is not mere crime, but ideologically-justified crime or rather, in Muslim eyes, attacks on Infidels scarcely qualify as crime. (also google Rape Jihad)

[The threat of Mohammedan rape is not making its way to American soil to female critics of the death cult.]

 

RELIGION OF PEACE THREATENS CINNAMON STILLWELL WITH RAPE AND HORRIBLE DEATH

The United American Committee Official Blog

 

(Cinnamon Stillwell is a conservative writer from San Francisco. Recently she wrote her first critical article on the religion of peace and received her first death threat. Read the whole article on faithfreedom.org, Cinnamon welcome aboard the "Death Threat Club")

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:23:26 -0500 (EST)Subject:
Hello Ms Cinnamon,

How dare you write against Supreme Being Allah_The One Absolute Truth Beyond Spacetime???

We, soldiers of Allah will rape you feminists and then disbowel you and cut your boobs. Then post digital videoclips of the events on our brothers' websites www.kavkazcenter.com , aljazeera.net and other Islamic sites.
We will massacre you by giving you most horrifying death beyond your mental capacity to imagine. It’ll be such painful that you will cry and laugh at your pathetic conditions.

Don't think Islam is just another religion. Islam is a SuperSystem that'll dominate 21st and beyond. It's the future of Mankind that guarantees Total Peace in outer and inner worlds by establishing a Global Islamic Caliphate Empire dominating every continents on Earth and other planets in the near future.

So just shut up; marry a true Muslim man and be his faithful wife by giving birth to powerfuyl sons who will become future soldiers of Allah. That'll guarantee a great future to your sons as they will become the Predators and Dominators not a prey=another white christian slave.
Yours trully A Muslim wellwisher and warnerFireEagle_A weapon of Allah.

 

[And finally I come to this post about rape and Mohammedanism.]

I disagree that this has nothing to do with Islam. Muhammad himself had forced sex (rape) with several of his slave girls/concubines. This is perfectly allowed, both in the sunna and in the Koran. If you postulate that many of the Muslims in Europe view themselves as a conquering army and that European women are simply war booty, it all makes perfect sense and is in full accordance with Islamic law. And Muslims do follow their medieval religious laws, even today:

 

Robert Spencer on rape and jihad

 

What does rape, then, have to do with these religious conflicts? Unfortunately, everything. The Islamic legal manual ‘Umdat al-Salik, which carries the endorsement of Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, stipulates: “When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.” Why? So that they are free to become the concubines of their captors. The Qur’an permits Muslim men to have intercourse with their wives and their slave girls: “Forbidden to you are ... married women, except those whom you own as slaves” (Sura 4:23-24).

 

After one successful battle, Muhammad tells his men, “Go and take any slave girl.” He took one for himself also. After the notorious massacre of the Jewish Qurayzah tribe, he did it again. According to his earliest biographer, Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad “went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for [the men of Banu Qurayza] and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches.” After killing “600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900,” the Prophet of Islam took one of the widows he had just made, Rayhana bint Amr, as another concubine.

 

Emerging victorious in another battle, according to a generally accepted Islamic tradition, Muhammad’s men present him with an ethical question: “We took women captives, and we wanted to do ‘azl [coitus interruptus] with them.” Muhammad told them: “It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection.’” When Muhammad says “it is better that you should not do it,” he’s referring to coitus interruptus, not to raping their captives. He takes that for granted. [Excerpted from Fjordman Blog.]

Mohammedanism is a violent death cult that is wholly intolerant of the American way of life. It is not a religion of peace; it is a conquering cancer in which a cure needs to be developed.

 
 
   
 

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