Attorney: Playground case should be dropped

Two young girls are accused of brutally attacking a classmate in Pa.

 

 

ERIE, Pa. - Two young girls accused of brutally attacking another girl on a playground are too emotionally immature to understand the criminal charges against them and the charges should be dismissed, their attorneys said.

 

The girls, ages 10 and 11, face aggravated assault and other charges for the attack on another 10-year-old girl at an elementary school playground the evening of April 3. The girls are accused of stomping on the victim and breaking her hip, police said.

 

Erie County Public Defender Tony Logue says he will ask a Juvenile Court judge to dismiss criminal charges against the 10-year-old girl.

 

"How can my attorney effectively communicate with his clients given the client's chronological age versus emotional age?" Logue said.

 

Attorney Bruce Sandmeyer said he has similar concerns for his client, the 11-year-old, and expects to file a similar motion in the coming days.

 

"My client is just 11 years old and just an elementary school student," Sandmeyer said.

The lawyers said the case should be treated as a dependency case, not a delinquency case. In legal terms, a judge who rules a child is dependent can place the child under the supervision of the Erie County Office of Children and Youth.

 

A delinquency case, which is what the girls currently face, is the juvenile court equivalent of a criminal case. If the girls are found delinquent, the equivalent of a guilty verdict, they could be confined in a juvenile detention facility or otherwise be under the supervision of the court until they turn 21.

 

Ian Murray, another lawyer for the 10-year-old girl, said she and her family feel deep remorse for the attack. "This is tragic for everyone, especially the victim," Murray said.

 

Family members of the 11-year-old suspect say she is an "A" and "B" student who has never been in trouble before.

 

The injured girl said the other girls pulled her off the monkey bars and attacked after she told the girls to stop splashing water on her 8-year-old sister in the school playground. Police said the victim was repeatedly stomped on the head and legs.

 

The victim remains hospitalized and is expected to undergo at least one week of rehabilitation at a hospital. She has three pins in her hip to keep the bones in place and may eventually need a hip replacement, her mother said.

 

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As a mother of a 9 year old girl.  I HOLLAR!  BULLSHIT!  I don't care what state, I don't care if the girls are purple or mauve colored skinned, I don't care if the girls are Pagan, Christian, Muslim, Buddist, or what have you............they KNEW what they were doing!  I don't care if they were "good girls"  and got straight A's or if they were "bad girls" and got straight F's.  They KNEW what they were doing.  So they don't understand the court system and all the big words.  Got news for folks, unless your in a profession of the justice system, NOBODY knows the court system and the big words because it is all sooooooooooo complicated.

 

Their parents get lawyers for them, the lawyers and the parents EXPLAIN things to them in words they can understand!  They need to be held accountable NOW or they are going to continue this behavor of snapping for stupid shit!

 

I didn't read the whole story to my kids, but I think it is awfully interesting that I explained the jist of the story to my 9 year old daughter and 8 year old son.  I asked them what would happen to them if they were stupid enough to do something like this.  If my 9 and 8 year old can look at me in a shocked manner and go:

 

"We would go to jail for hurting another kid that badly.  And if we didn't go to jail we would be someplace for just kids in jail, having to correct our naughty behavor."

 

I also asked them if anything else would happen to them besides going into jail.  And this is what they said.

 

"Well, since we aren't old enough to pay for everything like lawyers, our parents would probably get told to pay for our laywers and pay for the other kid's operation if she had one.  And their parents might have to pay the other girl's family some money to say sorry."

 

So notice they don't completely understand the process of the court system, but they do understand a good portion of it.  And before anyone says I told them, WRONG!  I cleared some things up after they proved that they could understand the situation and that is it.  Make those lil girls accountable NOW for their behavor.

 

OK SO UMM LET SEE... THE LAST TiME i WROTE iN MY BLOG.... i HAD JUZ TOLD ME MOM ABOUT ME AND DAViD HAViN SEX.

OK WELL LET SEE MAMORIALE WEEKEND, WE HAD SAT SUN, AND MON. OFF, SO THAT FRIDAY I SKIPPED SCHOOL, AND WENT TO DAVID,

 

I KNEW I SHOUNLD OF, BUT I DID, NEXT THING I KNOE MY SISTER TISHA IS AT DAVID DOOR!!

 

SO YA I WAS IN DEEP SHIT!! AND THEN ME AND TISHA HAD THIS BIG O TALK AND I TOLD HER ABOUT ME AND DAVID HAVING SEX, OK SO YA YOU CAN IMAGIN WHAT WENT ON,

 

BUT YA OK SO WE WENT HOME, I STAYED IN MY ROOM, TISHA WENT AND TOLD MY BROTHERS,  SO I HATE HER FOR THAT!! THEN WHEN I ASKED TO GO SEE ME MOMS (CUZ I REALLY NEEDED HER) TISHA WAS LIKE "NO!!" I WAS SO PISSED HOW IS SHE GONNA KEEP ME FROM MY OWN MOM?

 

SO OK THEN TISHA SAYS I CANT SEE DAVID, AND I HAD TO BE ON A CONTRAK WITH ALL MY TEACHERS.... AND I WAS GROUNDED FOR THE WHOLE SUMMER, AND I WOULDNT BE ABLE TO GO SEE MY GRANDMA

 

THIS WAS JUST WAY TO MUCH.. SO THEN I TOLD MY DAD ABOUT ME AND DAVID, AND HE SAID AS LONG AS I LOVE DAVID AND HE LOVES ME, AND TREATS ME RIGHT, MY DAD IS OK WITH EVERYTHING, AND SO WAS MY MOM, SO IM JUST GOT TIRED OF TISHA SHIT, AND AS READY TO LEAVE!! RUNNING AWAY, OR MOVING IN WITH MY MOM OR DAVID ANY WAY I COULD GET OUT!! I WOULD! SO THEN I TOLD MY GRANDMA AND SHE TOLD ME AND MY MOM TO LOOK FOR A HOUSE AND MY GRANDMA WOULD BUT IT FOR US AND PUT IT INTO MY NAME!! SO ON MAMORIAL DAY, WE WERE GOING TO GO LOOK AT HOUSES AND I DIDNT WANT TISHA TO GO CUA I KNEW SHE WOULD TAKE OVER!! AND ITS GOING TO ME MY HOUSE!! BUT YS SHE ENDED UP GETTING INVITIED, SO THEN TISHA GOT ALL BUTT HURT CUZ I WANST TALKING TO HER, AND IT CUZ I HATE HER!! BUT YA, SO THEN ALL THAT DRAMA HAPPEN, AND THEN WE WHERE ALL UPSET, I WANTED TO RUN AWAY, BUT I DIDNT WANT TISHA TO GO LOOK AT HOUSE BY HERSELF WITH MY MOM, SO THEN I WAS LIKE AM I GOING? AND SHE WAS LIKE "no" THAT SHIT PISSED ME THE FUCK OFF!! THEN I RAN INTO MY ROOM, AND SLAMED MY DOOR, ALOT OF THINGS BROKE.. BUT I DIDNT CARE, THEN TISHA CAME IN THE ROOM, AND I CUSSED HER OUT, TOLD HER I HATED HER, SHES TO CONTROLLING, AND I WOULD RUN AWAYS IF SHE DIDNT LET ME GO LIVE WITH MY OWN DAM MOM!! SHE WAS LIKE UR NOT LEAING, IF YOU DO ILL SEND YOU TO JAIL!! AND I WAS LIKE GO A HEAD!! SO YA BLAH BLAH BLAH

 

SO THEN MY MOM CAME IN AND WAS LIKE PACK YOUR STUFF, YOUR LEAVING WITH ME!!

OMG I WAS SO HAPPY WHEN SHE SAID THAT!!AND I GUESS TISHA THINKS SHE KICKED ME OUT?? HAHA SRY, I WANTED TO LEAVE!!

 

BUT YA SO NOW IM LIVIN WITH MY MOM!! AND ALOT HAPPYER!! ONLY IF TISHA DIDNT THINK OF HERSELF ALL THE DAMM TIME!! SHE NOT IN THE FREAKIN ARMY ANYMORE!!

 

ILL LET YOU KNOW MORE LATER...

 

p.s.

I STILL GET TO SEE MY BABY!!

Yesterday we got an extra truck . Only catch in this matter is we just got a truck on Monday, so our stock room was full to the tilt. Our fault was we were moving shelfs, we can get the products out in the correct areas.
Currently we are rearranging the store. We do not have night stockers. We stock when the store is open, we move the products when the store is open ... & we apologize to the customers all the time I was there! They are great about it, because they know the more we get truck the more choice they will have. They are very accepting about it, & find it like a treasure hunt ... it's pretty cute, to be honest.
Yesterday, it was more like a treasure hunt, because we had to put this truck on the floor  ... 4 of us unloading the truck. I got the fun of running in & out of the truck, & stacking the boxes. Lets just say I got one serious work out. The best part is that we got this truck done in under 2 hours!!!! Which means we didn't have to pay the extra $200 an hour for keeping truck there. I told Mary that I wanted to be up in the truck from now on because I can deal with that, it wasn't that hard ... & I think we did good with getting those boxes out.
The truck we has on Monday it took us 3 hours to get out ... which means it cost us extra money.
Plus we had an employee walk off cause he couldn't handle working fast enough. Please, get over it ... if all the women can work faster than you can get on the ball. He didn't even tell us he was leaving, he just walked -- what a chicken. There was a lot of mouth running from one employee, & she wasn't doing much of nothing to help us. Yet she expected us to move a lot faster while she sat & did nothing!
Now this little red head's temper when off that day ... I wanted to blow. It took a lot to control everything. Unfortunaletly, I can mumble really low.

 

But I don't care about that ... the 4 of us kicked ass yesterday! We got the truck out on the in under 2 hours yesterday ... and that is what counts the most. We got a lot of it off the floor before I left yesterday, and that is another plus. I was loving life yesterday because of it. It has been along time since we have gotten a truck out in less than in under 2 hours! I was shocked that I got to go up in the truck ... but I am hoping that I get to do that more often now. Unloading a truck is damn easy ... Mary is afraid that I will get hurt up in there. But we got those boxes out of there fast, it was good! When I was out of the truck, we got those boxes stacked & moved fast ... the other two girls are outstanding. 
They has to continue stacking boxes coming out of the truck ... both were extremely red faced when this was over. They had to keep up with the speed of the boxes, and they were doing great. We have 3 types of boxes; regular, green tag & blue tag. They had to seperate them in to areas. Which meant they had to run in 2 areas because green & blue can be up together & regularn down a seperate area. Those two women where working so hard I am amazed we didn't get the truck out sooner. Had they had one more person we would have ... unfortunately no one showed up until AFTER they truck was done & gone. (Of course.)
In my opinion, the 3 women I work with on the truck yesterday where outstanding. They did an amazing job. Those are the ones who should always do the truck ... and only one other should be included. No offense to any one, but they prove that team work is what we do have. That is what the store should have.

 

On a side note, when 2 other parties showed up ... some of us were couldn't wait to leave. That should tell you some thing.
After all ... we still managed to an amazing job.

Many times I was kicked to the ground
Kicked to the floor, Knocked my head on the door
I was told it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor
But the wealthy score
While the rest are their whores

I was told everything just takes some time
But you read my mind, It's been so many years
And I still don't know how to steer
I don't know what it is I have to fear
Or why things couldn't be any more clear

One of my friends turned to sex, and another turned to drugs
The thing that bugs me the most is addiction
Before we were fine, but now there's friction
I thought I was tired of games
But what I'm sick of most is the shame & the blame

Yeah you point the finger at me
And you tell me about everyone who's lost
You won't deal with her cause it cost
too much, to touch her with a ten foot pole
You told me she has no soul

To save, well I know that we never were close
I'd boast but I'm in the gutter with rats
Crawling over my mat
I don't know what could be worse than that
Go ahead snicker, go ahead laugh

We all got habits to kick
Just take your pick
You could be a gambler & shoot the dice
You could be a singer and end up like Bo Bice

Yeah, we all got nervous kinks
I knew a girl once who thought she was jinxed
She liked pink but would never go out
I'm not like her but I have my doubts

I don't want to care how the world sees me
I want to partake in my liberty
I know that I can be free
So I don't care how you see me