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"They treat their dogs better than they treat our sons.”

This title is a quote from a Saudi woman in response to the suicides of three Gitmo detainees, two of which were Saudis. Smiley Lady your sons would destroy American sons and daughters in the name of Mohammed. I doubt there is an iota of conspiracy to commit murder by the American guards, but I doubt many tears were shed either.

Below is the courtesy of LGF:

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In a classic case of projection (a psychological defense mechanism in which one’s own unacceptable desires or actions are attributed to others), our friends the Saudis think the US tortured the Gitmo detainees to death.

 

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — The reported suicides of two Saudi detainees at Guantanamo Bay intensified Saudi anger at the camp, drawing questions Sunday about whether the men really killed themselves or were driven to it by torture.

The detention of more than 130 Saudis at the U.S. jail has long grated on people in the kingdom, and there was marked skepticism that the prisoners committed suicide. “The families don’t believe it, and of course I don’t believe it either,” said Kateb al Shimri, a lawyer who represents relatives of Saudis held at Guantanamo. “A crime was committed here and the U.S. authorities are responsible,” al Shimri said, echoing the general sentiment heard in the Saudi capital, Riyadh. Al Shimri said he planned to sue the U.S. government for compensation on behalf of the relatives of the deceased.

The kingdom’s semiofficial human rights organization [Oxymoron of the century. —ed.] called for an independent investigation into the deaths of the two Saudis, who were identified Sunday by Saudi officials as Mani bin Shaman bin Turki al Habradi and Yasser Talal Abdullah Yahya al Zahrani. A Yemini prisoner also killed himself early Saturday, U.S. authorities said. His identity was not released.

Many Saudis denounced the suicide claim as a fabrication, and some accused U.S. authorities of complicity in the inmates’ deaths.

“There are no independent monitors at the detention camp so it is easy to pin the crime on the prisoners, given that it’s possible they were tortured,” said Mufleh al-Qahtani, deputy director of the state-sponosred Saudi Human Rights Group.

Saleh al-Khathlan, director of monitoring at the rights group, explicitly accused Guantanamo officials of torturing detainees. “Even if the suicide story is true, I have no doubts that they were pushed to it by torture and the lack of attention paid to the health of the detainees,” he said.

The families of other Saudi detainees also questioned the U.S. version. “They were killed; they were murdered. This was no suicide,” said Lulua al Dakheel, whose son, 22-year-old Fahed al Fouzan, has been at Guantanamo for more than four years.

Speaking through tears, she added: “There are no guarantees that my son won’t be next. These people (U.S. officials) can’t be trusted. They treat their dogs better than they treat our sons.”

 
 
   
 

Oh Ravager, Where are you?

The ACLU is going to start censoring itself. Ah, the irony. From complaining about the surveillence of terrorists, and defending the residents of Club Gitmo, to worrying about their board members "fiduciary duty"?

 

It's good to have things to laugh at.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/24/us/24aclu.html?ex=1306123200&en=cd8a5fd1f6941a5d&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

 
 
 

   
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And it's this type of crap that makes me go nuts. The New Yorker has an
article on Guantanamo Bay, and it's more or less a condemnation of the tactics currenlty being used to get information.

Waaah, waaah. What people don't get is that this is not a conventional war that the other side is following the Geneva Accords. Um, if they were, they wouldn't be kidnapping civilians and chopping their heads off. But, the point is made that torturing people that are at Guantanamo that are innocent might drive them to become terrorists - and that's true.

Anyway, the New Yorker has a Q&A with the reporter.
 
 
   
 

 
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