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So..We'll give you your term "marriage"..but it won't be enough-will it?
For you see, I KNOW the depths of loathing in humans..I've experienced it first-hand..

ensuring that gay people won't be able to use the term marriage will not be enough for those who will push(part of their doctrine) to put their God before my "life, liberty, and the pursuit of (my) happiness"

The corollary to the First Amendment is that I have the "freedom" to be free FROM religion..


but it won't be enough..will it..?
 
 
   
 

Why Is Everyone Up Miss California's Ass?


So what if she personally feels that marriage is between a man and a woman (or opposites as she put it)? It is her opinion and one that is held by half of the country including the President of the United States. So the President gets his own line of Chia Pets and Miss California gets publicly mocked by a disgustingly cunty troll like Perez Hilton. It just seems a tad unfair in my book.
Sure I disagree with her, I am for gay marriage, polygamy and anything else short of involving children, blood relations, and animals but I don't begrudge Carrie Prejean her opinion especially since it is based on how she was raised. She didn't come down as being virulenty opposed to gay marriage and would fight to the death to preserve traditional marriage, she just said it was not something she was personally in favor of.
And at least she answered the question honestly which is more than can be said for the other broads she was up against. They all danced around answering their questions like they were on the campaign trail or something.
 
 
 

   
Iowa Legalizes Gay Marriage!

This is Wonderingsoul, sneaking in assuming Bluejeanqueen would want me to post this fantastic news...a great step towards equal rights!

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090403/ap_on_re_us/iowa_gay_marriage

 

Iowa Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage

 

DES MOINES, Iowa – Iowa's Supreme Court legalized gay marriage Friday in a unanimous and emphatic decision that makes Iowa the third state — and first in the nation's heartland — to allow same-sex couples to wed.

 

Iowa joins only Massachusetts and Connecticut in permitting same-sex marriage. For six months last year, California's high court allowed gay marriage before voters banned it in November.

 

The Iowa justices upheld a lower-court ruling that rejected a state law restricting marriage to a union between a man and woman.

 

The county attorney who defended the law said he would not seek a rehearing. The only recourse for opponents appeared to be a constitutional amendment, which could take years to ratify.

 

"We are firmly convinced the exclusion of gay and lesbian people from the institution of civil marriage does not substantially further any important governmental objective," the Supreme Court wrote.

 

Iowa lawmakers have "excluded a historically disfavored class of persons from a supremely important civil institution without a constitutionally sufficient justification."

 

To issue any other decision, the justices said, "would be an abdication of our constitutional duty."

 

The Iowa attorney general's office said gay and lesbian couples can seek marriage licenses starting April 24, once the ruling is considered final.

 

Des Moines attorney Dennis Johnson, who represented gay and lesbian couples, said "this is a great day for civil rights in Iowa."

 

At a news conference announcing the decision, he thanked the plaintiffs and said, "Go get married, live happily ever after, live the American dream."

 

Plaintiff Kate Varnum, 34, introduced her partner, Trish Varnum, as "my fiance."

 

"I never thought I'd be able to say that," she said, fighting back tears.

 

Jason Morgan, 38, said he and his partner, Chuck Swaggerty, adopted two sons, confronted the death of Swaggerty's mother and endured a four-year legal battle as plaintiffs.

 

"If being together though all of that isn't love and commitment or isn't family or marriage, then I don't know what is," Morgan said. "We are very happy with the decision today and very proud to live in Iowa."

 

In its ruling, the Supreme Court upheld an August 2007 decision by a judge who found that a state law limiting marriage to a man and a woman violates the constitutional rights of equal protection.

 

The Polk County attorney's office claimed that Judge Robert Hanson's ruling violated the separation of powers and said the issue should be left to the Legislature.

 

The case had been working its way through the courts since 2005, when Lambda Legal, a New York-based gay rights organization, filed a lawsuit on behalf of six gay and lesbian couples in Iowa.

 

"Today, dreams become reality, families are protected and the Iowa Constitution's promise of equality and fairness has been fulfilled," Lambda Legal attorney Camilla Taylor said.

 

John Logan, a sociology professor at Brown University, said Iowa's status as a largely rural, Midwest state could enforce an argument that gay marriage is no longer a fringe issue.

 

"When it was only California and Massachusetts, it could be perceived as extremism on the coasts and not related to core American values.

 

"But as it extends to states like Iowa, and as attitudes toward gay marriage have evidently changed, then people will look at it as an example of broad acceptance," Logan said.

 

Polk County Attorney John Sarcone said his office will not ask for the case to be reconsidered.

 

"Our Supreme Court has decided it, and they make the decision as to what the law is, and we follow Supreme Court decisions," Sarcone said.

 

Gay marriage opponents have no other legal options to appeal the case to the state or federal level because they were not parties to the lawsuit, and there is no federal issue raised in the case, Sarcone said.

 

Bryan English, spokesman for the Iowa Family Policy Center, a conservative group that opposes same-sex marriage, said many Iowans are disappointed with the ruling and do not want courts to decide the issue.

 

"I would say the mood is one of mourning right now in a lot of ways," English said. He said the group immediately began lobbying legislators "to let the people of Iowa vote" on a constitutional amendment.

 

"This is an issue that will define (lawmakers') leadership. This is not a side issue."

 

Iowa has a history of being in the forefront on social issues. It was among the first states to legalize interracial marriage and to allow married women to own property. It was also the first state to admit a woman to the bar to practice law and was a leader in school desegregation.

 

Todd Pettys, a University of Iowa law professor, said the state's equal protection clause on which Friday's ruling was based is worded slightly differently than the U.S. Constitution. But Iowa's language means almost "exactly the same thing."

 

Still, he said, it's difficult to predict whether the U.S. Supreme Court would view the issue the same way as the Iowa justices.

 

Linda McClain, professor at Boston University School of Law, said she doubted Iowa's ruling would be "a realistic blueprint" for the U.S. Supreme Court," particularly considering the court's conservative leadership.

 

Senate Majority Leader Mike Gronstal, a Democrat, said state lawmakers were unlikely to consider gay marriage legislation in this legislative session, which is expected to end within weeks.

 

Gronstal also said he's "not inclined" to propose a constitutional amendment during next year's session.

Iowa's Democratic governor, Chet Culver, said he would review the decision before announcing his views.

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Associated Press writers Nigel Duara in Urbandale and Marco Santana, Melanie S. Welte, Michael Crumb and Mike Glover in Des Moines contributed to this report.

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On the Net:

Iowa Supreme Court: http://www.judicial.state.ia.us/

Lambda Legal: http://www.lambdalegal.org/

 
 
   
 

Responsibility begins with conception

    Sorry, guys, I haven't been on here a whole lot.

 

        Mom and I are sending empty envelopes to the President...they represent every unborn child that has been killed by abortion.  That is the only thing about Obama that irks me.  I do NOT support abortion AT ALL.  It's murder.  That's really what it is.  And before you start to dog me about it hear me out before opening your mouth and starting a fight with me. 

     You all can disagree with me all you want but, this is something I'm not giving on.  If a teenage girl refuses to accept full responsibility for being stupid and having sex and getting knocked up, then she should give it up for adoption.  There are PLENTY of people out there who have been trying to have kids for the longest time and can't and then there's this stupid irresponsible cheerleader who CAN have kids and murders the baby growing in her womb.  To me that's immature and selfish on their part.  The best contraception in the world is abstinence.  You don't want to get pregnant then keep your pants on and legs together.  If your boyfriend is pressuring you to kill your baby but, you don't want to kill it that answer is simple:  LEAVE HIM.  Your life doesn't depend on some punk who won't take responsibility for helping you get pregnant in the first place.   Don't kid yourself to thinking that he loves you.  It's obvious that he doesn't or he'd respect your decision to keep the child.  In cases of rape, I still say either keep the baby or put it up for adoption.  God is gracious and knows that it's not your fault that some jerk did that to you.  Most likely the baby will look like you and you won't have to worry about it looking like him.  Or if you still don't want to raise it then give it up for adoption.

 

     I'm very sorry if you people don't agree with me on this.  If you don't then say so diplomatically and don't attack me saying that I'm stupid and don't know what I'm talking about.  Yes I do.  I do not support abortion. PERIOD, end of story.  If you are welcome to a debate with me, that's fine.  But don't talk down to me as if I'm a child, or verbally attack me.  I don't tolerate it.  And I shouldn't have to because I'm twenty years old and I'm pretty much set in moral opinions.  I also don't support same-sex marriage.  Judge me all you want, however, if you're a Christian and still support same-sex marriage and judge me, that's for God to decide about whether or not I'm wrong or right not you.

 

 

~*Another day in the life of Rebekah*~*316*~

 

    As Michael Corleone said in the Godfather Part 2 "I will not hide behind the fifth amendment but it is my right."  I have every right to post my opinions on here, just as much as you do.

 
 
 

   
UNpopular Commands: Newsweek Article & the issues it brings up

Hello, and good afternoon! I just spent way too much time reading the Newsweek article regarding gay marriage. WOW to say the least. I know this is a very hot button issue and more than likely I will face some harsh reactions to my post.


Disclaimer: These are my own thoughts and feelings regarding the matter, no one else's(unless they agree with me). I do not wish any one any personal hard feelings or wish to discriminate anyone baised on your own personal beliefs, because after all, the issue of the matter is being discriminated against because of personal beliefs and actions... So, please do not discriminate me because of my own beliefs and actions.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/id/172653?gt1=43002

 

That is the link to the article.

 

I have something pretty simple to say about it honestly. I mean, I, in no way, endorse gay marriage. I do believe that it is discriminating against them by not allowing them to legally have the benefits of traditional marriage (such as insurance, estates etc...) But, from a Christian stand point I do with all of my heart believe that it is a sin. I believe that God thinks it is wrong, just as wrong as having sex before marriage, murder and thousands of other sins...(although He specifically speaks out against sexual sins).

 

I want to say that although I do not wish to put my own judgement on someone and tell them they will be going to Hell because of their life style choice. That is not my place, and I am not about to cast the first stone.

I do believe, however, that the choices of biblical times are not popular today. God is the Aplpha and the Omega, and what He commands should not have ever gone out of style. Granted, the world has changed and our perception of right and wrong have changed...But, God's commands have not. Albeit, as unpopular as it is to think about obeying your husband, and loving your wife as Jesus loves the church...It is a command, not a request. It is like when your Father told yout to clean your room. You saw that, as a child, as stupid and point less because you were going to mess it up again anyway...But if you did not do it you will be grounded. Well, think of eternal damnation as being grounded.

Unpopular, but not requested...COMMANDED!

 

 

 

 
 
   
 

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