Eternal Life @ MindSay 
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"Thou wast slain, and didst purchase for God with Thy blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. And Thou hast made them to be a kingdom and priest to our God; and they will reign upon the earth."
ie: Anyone seeking God, regardless of what religion they follow to find him.
Comments I have made on eternidad s blog, I post them here to encourage healthy discussion and debate:
My comments: (some of which i have said is said much more succinctly by others in comments on his/her blog, but i shall not plagerise, please: go look for yourself.)
eternidad has made comments about wishing to be cryogenically frozen so as to hybernate and live forever.
In order for you to live, someone else must die, it is the order of things. Earth can only sustain so many people. Imagine a world where there are no natural resources left, because the food that normally would have sustained a normal population has to feed those that normally would have died, not just the new borns. Humanity would become a virus in the galaxy, spreading unchecked in our need for resources.
Birth contol would be the answer in such a society, are you willing to make someone loose the chance of life through not being born just so you can live for more than your fair share?
we are mortal for a reason, let that be.
Consider:
Ancient Greek Mythos tells of the goddess Aphrodytie, who fell in love with a mortal. She begged the gods to grant her wish of making her lover immortal, eventually having her wish granted. Now, the gods live in eternal beauty and youth, not just immortality, so after a brief time together, the Lover grew old, while Aphrodytie did not. Ashamed of her lack of foresight, realising that she had asked for immortality for him, forgetting eternal youth to go with it, Aphrodytie hid her old and ugly Lover in a deep dungeon, away from the eyes of gods and men, where he lives trapped forever, ugly, old, frail and alone.
Don't make the same mistake as Aphrodite.
immortality does not equal youth. imagine living in a frail, arthritic body, incontinent and unable to even feed yourself.
I would suggest you yern for youth as long as possible, before you think about immortality.
This is the time where i point out what being frozen does to human cells...
ever heard of frostbite?
it kills human cells as simply as burning them.
cryogenics is a nice idea for science fiction, but not really plausable in real life.
search deeper, you may be able to come up with a successful idea.
There have been experiments done that prove that the faster you move, the slower time is for those moving. The closer you get to the speed of light, the slower time is for you.
So, theoretically, of you put a space ship in orbit around the solar system as close to the speed of life as possible, those inside would be in suspended animation untill they slowed down.
Oh God,
please don't take her home
- not yet, please
God, she's only nine
I know this is selfish
I'm sure you want her back
but we still need her
maybe we can share
for a little while longer
long enough for me to stop crying
for a dying little girl
but God, if you need her
more than I understand
then you can have her
and we'll meet someday
where sunflowers meet the sky
and share them and us
and all of it
living forever
Anyway, the idea of saving 100,000 lives per day through such rejuvenating technologies raises a whole new set of problems. Mankind is already seriously depleting the earth’s resources as it is, can you imagine 100,000 more lives per day being added into the pot?! And wouldn’t that be limiting the evolution of man’s whole development to the lower plane of mortality?
Very likely, were I to have the choice between normal aging and extended longevity complimented with the health of my youth, I’d likely jump all over it, but would that really be a ‘good’ thing? Immortality is one thing, but that wouldn’t really BE immortality, that would be simply EXTENDED mortality. And I just can’t see man’s present mortal existence as being the highest thing to be reached for. Or, on the other hand, would extending mortality eventually LEAD to true immortality and the ultimate union of mortality and IMmortality? Yet, all that said, I confess I’d be amongst the first to reach for it, if I deemed it to be within my grasp…regardless of WHAT it might lead to. I’m sort of rambling here aren’t I?
Good LORD, such heavy thoughts of mortality and immortality, life and death, the longevity of the earth. You know, if we’re going to go this route, there should be research of equal intensity in the area of increasing the longevity of the EARTH we live on…or in finding another suitable planet for us immortal baby boomers to move to once we’ve drained the earth of ITS sustenance.
Read about de Grey’s research and other related topics here. Do YOU want to live forever? As for me at this insanely early hour in the morning for a day off, just a bit more coffee and I’ll be able to solve this complex dilemna…
Anyway, the idea of saving 100,000 lives per day through such rejuvenating technologies raises a whole new set of problems. Mankind is already seriously depleting the earth’s resources as it is, can you imagine 100,000 more lives per day being added into the pot?! And wouldn’t that be limiting the evolution of man’s whole development to the lower plane of mortality?
Very likely, were I to have the choice between normal aging and extended longevity complimented with the health of my youth, I’d likely jump all over it, but would that really be a ‘good’ thing? Immortality is one thing, but that wouldn’t really BE immortality, that would be simply EXTENDED mortality. And I just can’t see man’s present mortal existence as being the highest thing to be reached for. Or, on the other hand, would extending mortality eventually LEAD to true immortality and the ultimate union of mortality and IMmortality? Yet, all that said, I confess I’d be amongst the first to reach for it, if I deemed it to be within my grasp…regardless of WHAT it might lead to. I’m sort of rambling here aren’t I?
Good LORD, such heavy thoughts of mortality and immortality, life and death, the longevity of the earth. You know, if we’re going to go this route, there should be research of equal intensity in the area of increasing the longevity of the EARTH we live on…or in finding another suitable planet for us immortal baby boomers to move to once we’ve drained the earth of ITS sustenance.
Read about de Grey’s research and other related topics here. Do YOU want to live forever? As for me at this insanely early hour in the morning for a day off, just a bit more coffee and I’ll be able to solve this complex dilemna…
