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Hillary should have said this
(from Freedom and Reason)

John McCain said it instead:
A few short months ago, Barack Obama outwardly opposed terrorist surveillance legislation, saying that he would filibuster any bill that includes immunity for American telecommunications companies that had been asked by the government to participate in the program. Today, the U.S. Senate will approve legislation providing the immunity Barack Obama supposedly opposed, and despite his promise, he will not support a filibuster. What Barack Obama will do is show that he's willing to change positions, break campaign commitments and undermine his own words in his quest for higher office.
I am still hopeful that Hillary will vote against the bill.
 
 
   
 

SCARY HILLARY CLINTON PICTURES

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 

   
Painful path from diversity to tribalism
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BOSTON
Is there anyone who still remembers the folksy winter tableau? Eight Democratic candidates against the picturesque backdrop of Iowa and New Hampshire. It was a feel-good photo-op of diversity. The Democratic Party was black and white and Hispanic, male and female and proud. Our party, its leaders said, looks like America.
As for Barack and Hillary? Yes, there were the predictable magazine cover stories asking whether America was "ready" for an African-American or a woman. But these were not long-shot candidates, a favorite son or daughter running to prove a point.
Obama presented himself as the American sum of his roots. He wasn't "the African-American candidate" but the post-racial, post-divisive orator whose presence and eloquence promised to turn that page. For her part, Clinton seemed to leap over the old gender barriers simply by being the front-runner. For once, a woman was the experienced candidate, the tough guy in the race.
Now what? The sense of freshness, the pleasure of breaking barriers, has been nearly exhausted. We've gone from party lovefest to food fight, from having our eyes on the prize to feeling like partisans at a prizefight.
Look at any blog where opinion-hurling — Racist! Sexist! — has become a bitter sport. The pollsters have sliced and diced us into demographic tidbits of race, gender, class and age, producing self-fulfilling prophecies of splinter. Now national polls say a quarter of all Hillary supporters won't vote for Barack. And the feeling is mutual.
This is what America looks like?
As one supporter told Hillary in an e-mail, "It's not over until the lady in the pantsuit says it is." But the campaign obits are written and waiting for release. So, for many women, the feel-good tableau is tainted by a 5 o'clock shadow of bad feelings. A historic campaign has opened fissures along historic fault lines.
The deepest is between women and our culture. The campaign was rife with reminders of how women charging forward are pushed backward. Hillary supporters aren't the only women who have rediscovered a word rarely spoken outside of women's studies class: misogyny. How else to explain the focus on Hillary's cackle and cleavage, the T-shirt that read "If Only Hillary Had Married O.J. Instead"? Or the casual use of the b-word? Or the "hilarious collectible" given to the husband of a prominent politician on his birthday: a Hillary nutcracker?
All season, cable news anchors displayed boorish contempt for a woman Chris Matthews called "Nurse Ratched." In offices, sly jokes are forwarded by e-mail and women who do not laugh are accused of being "too sensitive." Women who protest are accused of playing the gender card.
There are fractures as well, long dormant, between African-American and white women. Sisters and sisterhood. Who defines a double bind? Who limits that identity?
And the generation gap? Has it become an unbridgeable chasm? Many feminist elders see Obama as just another man leapfrogging over a qualified woman to the corner office. Many post-feminist daughters describe the former first lady as "old politics" and define progress as voting for the person, not the gender.
As for class divisions? Many urban professional women whose lives followed the same arc judge Hillary as if she were running for Perfect Woman while down-the-economic-ladder women identified more with this Wellesley graduate for president.
And as if that weren't enough, at the last minute there was a wedge driven into the reliably Democratic pro-choice community. In a gratuitous slap, NARAL Pro-Choice America (its former name was the National Abortion Rights Action League) pre-emptively endorsed Obama, prompting one among thousands of angry pro-choice women to write: "Et tu, Brute?"
I am sure there will be endless postmortems and Ph.D. theses written on this primary. How did race and gender tip the balance? Was this a loss for women or one woman? Did Hillary blaze the path or leave an ugly footprint for the next woman?
Time and the specter of John McCain may patch these crevices. But we have watched the political become (too) personal. We have watched the first optimistic blush of diversity get bloodied with tribalism.
Both Clinton and Obama brought new voters and energy into the compelling narrative of this campaign. But how hard will it be to rebuild the Humpty Dumpty of diversity into the portrait of what America looks like . . . at its best?
E-mail syndicated columnist Ellen Goodman of the Boston Globe at ellengoodman@globe.com.
 
 
   
 

UNELECTABLE, baby
May 22, 2008 - McCain Leads Obama In Two Of Three Key Swing States, Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll Finds; Clinton Has Big Leads In Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania --- FLORIDA: Clinton 48 - McCain 41; McCain 45 - Obama 41; OHIO: Clinton 48 - McCain 41; McCain 44 - Obama 40: PENNSYLVANIA: Clinton 50 - McCain 37; Obama 46 - McCain 40

 

THIS Clinton supporter will vote McCain in the fall if Clinton is not the nominee. Why?

 

Because I want a centrist. Moreover, the Republicans are honest about their agenda. Pro-corporations, pro-life, pro-war, pro-Evangelical, religion, pro-guns, pro-white rich guys. If you're Jewish, female, a child, elderly, Hispanic, African American, or union...well, they're probably not going to look out for your particular concerns.

 

That's honest. I can argue with them because I know where they stand.

 

Democrats, on the other hand, PRETEND to be for all the other suckers everyone-who's-not-a-rich-white-guy, and yet, they'll screw you while telling you they care about you, bitch sweetie.

 

I am turning down Obama. He is not my choice. I'm a techie, just turned 40, in a comfortable management job in the tech industry, and pretty darned liberal. He should be speaking to me. But he isn't. I already rode the unity pony onece, like all the rest of you, when the self-proclaimed 'uniter not a divider' swept into office in 2000, thanks to the disgusting and highly illegal activities of the scumbag Republicans who rigged problems with machines in Florida. Then that unity pony turned and bit us. Remember? "If you're not with us, you're against us" and dissenting voices were disappeared to Gitmo silenced, starting with the media, who seemed to be thrilled to just be allowed into the White House Press Room for a cluster press conference.

 

If you've been watching the way Obama's camp cries racism every time a Clinton supporter says, 'well what experience and ideas has he got EXACTLY', the way they tell us we're fucking irrelevant denigrate us, it's starting to sound a whole lot like that last unity pony that rode through here screaming 'if you're not with us, you're against us!'

 

McCain isn't the next Bush.

 

Obama is.

 

And he ain't getting my vote because he's U N E L E C T A B L E.

 

And the DNC can go to hell. People out there are pissed enough that they want Hillary to say up yours leave the party and go as an Independent. This Independent would welcome that.

 

Go Hillary!

 
 
 

   
ACK! Seriously...
Okay, so seriously... do we need another president whose motto appears to be "stay the course?"  I'm not talking about Iraq people... I'm simply talking about knowing when to quit.  Hillary seriously cannot still believe that she can still win this race.
 
 
   
 

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