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Have you ever noticed that almost everything has rules? Baseball, football, poker, red light, all have some kind of rules that you are supposed to follow whenever you play the different games, right?

 

Well, while I was out trawling on the internet I came   across a weird ass set of rules.

 

I actually found a set of rules for those of you who like to do the "Butt Bugger Polka", and who enjoy having your bung hole reamed out from time to time. 

 

So being the kind hearted, caring soul that I am, and not wanting any of you to get into any trouble for not following the rules while buggering someone else bung hole =

 

I guess that I had better stick a sex warning in here so that no one will get upset.

 

                                 "XXX WARNING XXX"

 

Sex talk here ! Ask your parents if it is OK for you to read about this stuff. Maybe they would like to read this with you, and kind of help explain it to you.

 

I blognapped this set of rules from http://www.sexuality.org/authors/morin/analrule.html, and here they are: 

 

                    Ten Rules of Anal Sex
                        by Jack Morin

 

Jack Morin, PhD, a San Francisco sex therapist and researcher, is the author of Anal Pleasure and Health: A Guide for Men and Women.

 

Anal Eroticism is surrounded by a powerful taboo. Yet millions of men and women - straight, gay and bisexual - are experimenting with anal sex. The anus, richly endowed with nerve endings and interconnected with the main pelvic muscles, is the closest erogenous neighbor of the genitals and contracts rhythmically during orgasm.

 

Thirty-five years ago, Kinsey stated that the anal region had erotic significance for about half of the population. In a survey of 100,000 Playboy readers, 47 percent of the men and 61 percent of the women admitted to having tried anal intercourse.

 

Yet the anal taboo inhibits most people from thinking, talking and learning about the sexual use of the anus. Listed here are the ten things most men and women still do not know about anal sex.

 

1. Anal intercourse is the least practiced form of anal sex.

There are many ways to enjoy the anus erotically. The most common techniques include touching the anal opening while masturbating or stimulating a partner's anus during intercourse or oral sex.

 

Some people enjoy the sensation of a finger - their own or a lover's - insinuated into their anal opening and gently rotated.

 

Others may prefer the insertion of a dildo or vibrator beyond the anal opening and short anal canal into the larger rectum. Many men, including hetereosexuals, prefer this form of penetration.

 

Oral-anal lovemaking is popularly known as rimming. The very idea disgusts some people. Others enjoy performing it or allowing themselves to be probed in this special way.

 

2. Anal stimulation, including intercourse, is not painful if done properly.

 

The belief that anal stimulation, especially intercourse, has to hurt is a persistent and dangerous myth. Just as pain anywhere in the body indicates that something is wrong, so is the same true of the anal area.

 

With its high concentration of nerve endings, the anus can produce extreme agony when it is mistreated. Yet it can be a source of great pleasure.

 

When a finger, object or penis is intorduced into the anus, the anal muscles go into spasm, as if fighting off an invasion. Pain will result if the partners do not wait for these muscles to relax.

 

Under sufficient stress they will eventually collapse and the pain subside, unless further damage is done. But, any 'pleasure' afforded from this kind of activity derives mostly from the absence of discomfort.

 

Maximum anal pleasure requires the elimination of all pain or physical trauma from the anal experience. Self-protection on the part of the passive partner involves being ready to say "no" until he or she is ready to proceed.

 

Readiness is a combination of physical relaxation, usually helped along by plenty of leisurely anal touching, and desire.

 

Occasionally the anal muscles are relaxes, but the passive partner is still not in the mood. Stimulation should mount only in proportion to the degree of receptivity.

 

3. Anal sex can be enjoyed even if it has been consistently uncomfortable in the past.

 

Sufficient desire alone does not necessarily guarantee pleasurable anal sex. Nor is an uncomfortable previous experience always the reason for a lack of interest in or desire for anal sex.

 

Chronic anal tension is the most common cause of anal discomfort during sex. Hemorrhoids and constipation are usually a sign of this condition.

 

Tension can be relieved by touching the anus and becoming more familiar with it. An ideal time to explore the anal opening is while taking a shower or bath.

 

Deep breathing also affects the anal muscles. Tensing the anus and the letting go in another way of learning to relax it.

 

Anyone who enjoys masturbation might want to experiment with some form of anal stimulation, though he or she should stop if any discomfort occurs.

 

For many people the turning point in anal sex is when they allow a partner to massage the anus with the understanding that intercourse will not be attempted.

 

Then the recipient of anal caresses can concentrate solely on the pleasure that this erogenous zone is capable of generating.

 

4. Two muscle rings called sphincters surround the anal opening. Each functions independently.

 

If you insert a finger about one half-inch into your anus and press your fingertip against the side, you can clearly feel the two sphincter muscles.

 

There is less than a quarter-inch between them. The external sphincter is controlled by the central nervous system - just like the muscles of the hand, for example. You can readily tense and relax this sphincter whenever you want.

 

The internal sphincter is quite different. This muscle is controlled by the involuntary or autonomic part of the nervous system, which governs such functions as heartbeat and stress response.

 

The internal sphincter reflects and responds to fear and anxiety during anal sex. It will cause the anus to tense up automatically even if the passive partner is trying to relax. Thus, precautions about safety and comfort are essential here.

 

Even if a person does feel comfortable during anal sex, he or she may still need to learn voluntary control over his or her internal sphincter in order to relax it at will.

 

Doing so requires regularly inserting a finger, perhaps in the shower each day, and feeling the internal sphincter. The muscle changes spontaneously and in response to behavior.

 

In this instance, simply paying attention is more important than trying to relax. Anyone can gradually learn to control the internal sphincter at will.

 

5. Anal stimulation provides many kinds of pleasure

The highest concentration of nerve endings is around the anal opening itself.

 

A finger can focus on them especailly effectively. When an object or penis is inserted beyond the anal opening into the rectum, other pleasures are involved.

 

The outer protion of the rectum, like the vagina, has several nerve endings. The inner portion responds mostly to pressure.

 

Some people enjoy the feelings of pressure and fullness once they understand that these sensations do not presage an impending bowel movement.

 

Rectal pressure is especially important to enthusiasts of "fisting," a form of anal sex in which several fingers or een the entire hand and forearm are inserted into the rectum and sometimes into the lower colon.

 

In men, the protate - which is just beyond the rectal wall, a few inches in, towards the front of the body - can be a source of pleasure when massaged by a finger, an object, or a penis.

 

Also, the lower end of the penis, or "bulb," is near the anal opening opening. It is stimulated indirectly by most types of anal sex.

 

Anal pleasure can be psychological as well as physical. The anal taboo adds to the thrill of the forbidden. The most common anti-anal message (it's dirty!) sometimes returns as a source of raunchy, sleazy excitement.

 

Rimming enthusiasts may enjoy the feeling that they are being disgustingly - and delightfully - perverse. Other people regard the anus as a secret, special place. Sharing it with a partner is an act of openness and giving.

 

6. Anal stimulation can lead to orgasm. A minority of men and women can respond orgasmically to anal sex without direct genital stimulation.

 

Women probably do so through pelvic muscle contractions - and a small minority even though the sheer excitement of being anally penetrated.

 

When men expereience an orgasm from anal stimulation, they tend to focus on the prostate. No doubt they are also responding to indirect stimulation of the penile bulb.

 

Orgasms from anal stimulation are most likely to occur when the participants become thoroughly absorbed in their sensations and fantasies.

 

An lmost certain way to prevent such an orgasm is to be become determined to have one. Seeking an anal orgasm will create new pressures and disrupt the pleasure.

 

It must be remembered that most people require direct genital stimulation in order to climax. On the other hand, a few people have orgasms only with anal stimulation.

 

7. Diet contributes to the enjoyment of anal sex

Regular bowel movements are the major function of the anus and rectum.

 

There must be sufficient fiber in a person's diet to make his or her feces soft, bulky and well formed. This allows a bowel movement to be produced without force or effort.

 

Forced evacuations irritate anal tissues, causing discomfort and adding to muscular tensions. Fresh fruits, vegetables, whole grains or unprocessed bran are important sources of fiber.

 

8. Different rules of hygiene apply to the vagina and rectum

Since intercourse can be vaginal or rectal, many people assume the the same rules apply for the penetration of the vagina and rectum.

 

Although both are lined with soft tissue and are capable of expanding, they are radically dissimilar.

 

The rectum is not straight. After the short anal canal which connects the anal opening to the rectum, the rectum tilts toward the front of the body.

 

A few inches in, it curves back - sometimes as much as 90 degrees. Then, after a few more inches, it swoops toward the front of the body once again.

 

A person can learn about the shape of his or her rectum by gently inserting a soft object, trying different angles and body positions and concentrating on how it feels.

 

Make sure the object has a flared base so that if you loose your grip, it won't slip into the rectum and become irretrievable.

 

The rectum does not produce lubrication like the vagina but only a small amount of mucus. Therefore, rectal penetration always requires a lubricant.

 

Chemical additives should be avoided. Water-based lubricants are latex-compatible.

 

The main function of the rectum is to act as a passageway for feces. But feces are not normally stored in the rectum except just prior to a bowel movement.

 

Yet small amounts may remain in the rectum, expecially if the feces are not well formed. Anal douching before lovemaking will help some people especailly concerned with cleanliness to relax.

 

For others the idea of dirtiness heightens the joy of the forbidden; for them, douching is anti-erotic.

 

9. Anal intercourse is not necessarily an act of dominance and submission.

 

The top-bottom imagery associated with anal intercourse is widespread. No doubt the belief that anal sex has to hurt contributes to this notion.

 

And in fact some people are intensely excited by top-bottom fantasies about anal sex. The thought that they are submitting to such a degrading act is a terrific thrill.

 

However, actual, not fantasized, anal pain can lead to trouble.

 

For others, the enjoyment of anal sex is inhibited by top-bottom imagery. The idea of surrendering control, and perhaps submitting to humiliation, causes immediate, protective tensing of the anal muscles.

 

These individuals are more likely to relax and enjoy themselves if they can learn to regard anal sex as pleasurable rather than as an expression of power.

 

10. Anal sex can be perfectly safe, even beneficial.

The taboo against anal eroticism is perpetuated by the almost universal belief among physicians that anal sex is inevitably dangerous.

 

No physical injury from anal stimulation results if both partners refuse to tolerate pain, never use force and avoid the use of drugs.

 

All the other risks center on sexually transmitted diseases. Each of the common STDs - gonorrhea, syphillis, herpes - can affect the anus.

 

Intestinal parasites, bacteria or tiny bugs are usually passed along when fecal matter finds its way into someone's mouth or vagina, most likely through rimming.

 

AIDS has complicated the matter. The HIV virus can pass from the semen or blood of an infected person to the bloodstream of a partner through a tiny break in the rectal tissue during anal intercourse.

 

To avoid this risk, anal intercourse and rimming should not be practiced casually. Those who do enjoy anal intercourse should always use a condom.

 

Rimming should always be accomplished by a latex barrier. Of course, in a monogamous realtionship with two healthy people, the risk of disease transmitted anally is reduced.

 

Thousands of men and women with chronic anal medical problems have restored their anal health by challenging their negative attitudes. This approach is indespensible for full erotic enjoyment of the anus.

 

Now I have to give credit where credit is due. So if you really want to read more about who wrote this stuff you have to use the link up top, go to the bottom of that page, and then click on the link of your choice.

 

There, now you have it. Bye for now,

 

♥ Wendy

 

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Damn Boo, I went to a chicks blog and left her a thank you note because she had stopped to visit at my blog. Now being the kind soul that I am, I read the post that she had up. In it she had stated several facts, and had asked a question or two. 

 

First off she says that she had made that post so that "only one person in the whole world could not read it", that person being her sister. 

 

Now me with my fucking inquisitive ass, I want to know "How do you do that?" Anyway, if I can read it and dextron5  can read it, doesn't it make sense that her sister will also be able to read it? Just like the rest of the world can read it.

 

*sniff,sniff,sniff = I smell dead pussy around here* If it doesn't smell right, then it deserves a second look. In other words, I think that  

 

"she was lying all the way through her post". 

 

Hi People, I am adding this to my post so that no one will say that I was unfair, it is the reply that I had left for summer101  on her blog. Oh yeah, you have to look down towards the bottom of her post to see it.

 

So what, you ask? Well I answered her question and this is the reply that she sent back to me.

 

Anyway this *pointing up* is the reply that I had left for her. What do you guys think about here story of true family fidelity there?

 

Isn't she just the best sister ever? You can tell her how you feel about her plight, if you like. Hell, I guess that she will be on the jerry springer show before long.

 

♥ Wendy

I received this in my email, I didn't forward it, or delete it, because I do not agree with all of it. But some I do. However, I wanted to post it here, for the purpose of friendly discussion. I have no idea how old it is, how long it's been around or nothing. I'm just curious as to what people think, especially those I converse with on Mindsay.

Andy Rooney said on "60 Minutes" a few weeks back:

I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except
numbers. The only things I can t hink of that are truly discriminatory are
things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment
Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian
College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White
America; and see what happens...Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You
can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you
from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there
are no girls allowed. Girl s belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA
BURKE?

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it
is an opinion.

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
different, weird, or tick me off.

When 7 0% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70%
of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of
Probability.

I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes,
a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English ! As a matter of fact, if
you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countr
ies you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry a-- if
you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word
"freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above lines.

I don't think just because you were not< /FONT> born in this country,
you are qualified for any special loan programs, gov ernment sponsored bank
loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store,
or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives
in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over
here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their
interpretations

I don't hate the rich I don't pity the poor.

I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That
doesn't stop you from watching them.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and
continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and inven t the next operating
system that's better, and put your name on the building.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take
a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary,
and say "NO!"

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't
pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new
lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me
French fries!

I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and
not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be
"African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I
am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, gr eat, great
grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else

And if you don't like my point of view, tough... < BR>
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO
THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH
LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!

It is said
that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore I have a very hard time
understanding why there is such a problem in having "In God We Trust " on our
money and having "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just tell the
14% to Shut Up and BE QUIET!!!

**Updated ** AGAIN
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I am having a discussion back and forth with another blogger that I think others should be able the weigh in on.  I am going to post that discussion here as my entry tonight.  It started off discussing the boyscouts and is deep in gay marriage at this point.

The initial post was about obtaining the rank of Eagle Scout.  It was completely innocent, but what follows is my reply.  I guess you could label me the instigator.  My words are in normal font color.  His are in the red I use for quotes.  I will continue to edit this post as long as the discussion continues.  Feel free to reply here or drop in and join the discussion in its original home, here.

SFS
You know, there is a fundamental conflict between Judeo-Christian belief and American Idealism.  The clearest line of demarcation is the fact that the ten-commandments, held in such esteem by so many adherents to the Christian ideology, specifically state that there shall be no other gods before Yaweh and emphasize this point with other commandments.  The Constitution, on the other hand, admonishes our government to make no law respecting a religion nor prohibiting free exercise of any religion.  There is an obvious contradiction between founding American principles and founding Biblical principles. 

 

I know the Scouts celebrate patriotism.  Having participated in scouts when I was much younger, I had always had a deep respect for the institution.  However, their behavior in discriminating against atheists and homosexuals, apparently for arbitrary reasons, both saddened and angered me.  If they are going to emphasize Judeo-Christian principles over American principles, then I see them more as a religious club than a patriotic organization.  You may not share my disappointment in the organization, but be aware that there are many people out there who feel betrayed by the discriminatory actions of an organization we once held in esteem.

jtobler

Just because the constitution forbids congress from legislating christianity does not elevate secularist goverment above God. I see no conflict. The retards at the ACLU do, but they're a bunch of (well-meaning) pricks.

Because religion is their foundation, and because active homosexuality is an attack on the traditional family, which the Scouting program beleives in. I see no reason I can't love my country and uphold my God at the same time.

SFS
In what way is anyone attempting to elevate secularist government above god?  You do understand the difference between a secular government and an atheistic one?  An atheistic principle would actively state that god does not exist.  While this may be the absolute truth in the atheistic worldview, I have met no atheist who believes that view should be promoted or supported by any governmental entity or entities that receive governmental support through public funds.  That is the nature of a secular government.  It takes no stand on the issue of religion.  What you believe or whether you believe is not in the domain of a government established to deal with practical, secular issues.  Jefferson made very clear in his other writings that this was the intent of the framers.

We can disagree or agree about whether adherence to specific religious values is patriotic or not or whether the scouts are a "patriotic" organization.  As a private organization, I support their freedom to hold whatever views they choose.  I am simply voicing an opinion that I disapprove of the policy.  I would not support any coercive effort to change their policy as long as they remain strictly private and receive no revenue from public funds or special privileges not granted equally to all.   And stating that homosexuality is an attack on the traditional family is at best misguided.  I support traditional families.  I have a beautiful daughter.  I am heterosexual.   I can support homosexuals' status as equal citizens without compromising my own values and family.  Being an active christian is more of an attack on the Jewish faith (or Muslim, Hindu, etc....) than homosexuality is an attack upon the traditional family.

Southern Fried Skeptic

jtobler
You're right of course, but that's the ideal world, not the real world. ACLU and other establishments with good intentions but are on a continual vandetta against anybody with religious beleifs, and they're using the government's fear of offending some oversensitive minority faction to accomplish this.

That's fair. The government probably shouldn't be supporting private organizations anyway.

Please don't misunderstand, and it would be my fault if you did, my best friend is homosexually inclined. I don't support gay-bashing or any ultra-conservative bigot movement. Yes, they are equal citezens, that does not mean that the government should be endorsing or even permitting homosexual couples to raise children. It's not right. I feel for them, I really do, I've had my turn on the ostrasize circuit. Traditionalists have been pricks to homosexuals for centuries, sure, but that doesn't mean the government has to legislate immorality.

I don't make it a habit to attack other faiths, but thanks for putting words into my mouth.

SFS
I wasn't putting words in your mouth, just simply making an analogy.  The argument I often hear from traditionalists is that by simply being homosexual, couples are attacking the tradtional family as you stated in your own words, "because active homosexuality is an attack on the traditional family".  Are homosexuals actively lobbying, criticizing, or denouncing traditional marriage as a whole, or is it just not a lifestyle that they feel comfortable with on a personal level?  There are no widely known attempts by homosexuals to have the homosexual family be established as the status quo nor should there be any expectation of such.  Since there are no direct attacks on the institution of marriage by the homosexual community generally speaking, I can only assume that you are referring to some sort of indirect undermining of the concept of family.  It's hard to pin down the substance under all the rhetoric in this argument, but it seems there is some vague idea that family as traditionally known will in some way become less valid if homosexual families are also recognized.  It makes no sense to me unless the important parts of families are genes and genitalia rather than emotional support, love, and all that warm fuzzy stuff.  So the analogy I was making was that while you may not actively lobby against the Jewish faith, or attack and try to ridicule or even try to disenfranchise those who follow such beliefs.  You don't even have to make a comment that you disagree with the validity of their faith.  Simply by being of a different faith, you are undermining the validity of the Jewish religious tenents.  After all, they cannot be correct if you are.  This is the same type of reasoning from which the perception of homosexual couples "actively attacking traditional families" results.  The homosexual couple does not have to make negative comments about traditional families nor in any way seek to undermine the validity of traditional marriage, yet they will be accused of "attacking" it by simply exercising their own discretion in how to live their life. 

And how can you say, "yes they are equal citizens" and then go on to discuss rights that they should not have which are given to heterosexual couples?  That is a strange version of equality.  You can't say it's not right just because your particular view of the sky-fairy happens to tell you it's not right.  There are churches, christian churches, that do endorse it.  Maybe they have a better understanding of god.  Who knows?  But certainly when the government starts amending citizens' rights- particular a right that has no evident effect on anyone else- simply because it is "wrong", they certainly seem to be endorsing not only a particular religious belief, but a particular subset of that religious belief.  Laws cannot be based simply on vague notions of morality in a free nation, but on the effect of those laws to maintain an orderly, equal, and just society.  You don't have to legislate immorality.  The laws were already in place regarding marriage.  As a great nation, it reflects positively upon our character when we embrace progress and, with ever-widening arms, gather in those cast aside and left without the light of acceptance into the embrace of freedom and equality.  As we protect the rights and freedoms of  individuals, no matter how great our disagreement with them or how few there may be, even unto a minority of one, so goes the brightness of Liberty's torch in our nation.

The Southern Fried Skeptic

***UPDATE 11/30/06***

jtobler
I already explained that it's the treating homosexual couples like parents that I worry about. I personally find the lifestyle disgusting, but I find squeezy cheese disgusting to, but I don't want that outlawed. I just don't want to see the day when children are being rased by two mothers or two fathers. It's just wrong. I don't need a man in a funny hat to tell me that.

I beleive that a child has rights to be reared by a loving father and mother. Those are the rights that I fight to protect.

I strongly disagree. There is right and there is wrong. You don't need an edict from God to explain right and wrong.

I suppose we just see progress as something different. Societies disintegrate from the decay of morals and values. History has taught this lesson the hard way again and again. So as acceptance of lower and lower degrees of morality progresses, our society regresses. That's how I see it.

SFS
Here's the difficulty I have.  You make the following statements:

"It's just wrong. I don't need a man in a funny hat to tell me that."
" There is right and there is wrong. You don't need an edict from God to explain right and wrong."

From where do we draw this mysterious knowledge of right and wrong?  Is there any answer that is appropriate in a pluralistic nation which respects all beliefs?  Obviously there are some who disagree with what you "feel" is right and wrong.  Why is your intuition on morality superior to theirs?  The majority of the people felt slavery was morally acceptable at one time.  So I don't think we can use that as a reference.

" I beleive that a child has rights to be reared by a loving father and mother. Those are the rights that I fight to protect."

Would you rather a child not exist than be raised by a same sex couple?  I am sure many people believe a child has the right to be raised by people of faith.  Should atheists be denied parental rights since they teach their children to not believe in god?  Many children are raised by one parent.  Perhaps divorce should be outlawed.  Since there is far less outcry for the banning of divorce, it seems that some believe it is better to be raised by one parent than have two loving parents who happen to be of the same sex.  And no one is against any child having a loving father and mother.  But I think that a child can benefit from having two loving mothers or fathers.  Too many kids have no loving environment at home.  More people in loving relationships wanting to have children could also lead to more adoptions and more children being taken out of state care and into a good home.

"Societies disintegrate from the decay of morals and values. History has taught this lesson the hard way again and again."

Could you give more specific references to support this?  I believe it is more accurate to say that sometimes morals and values evolve as societies change.  To say society disintegrates is to view it as a solid, static structure while I believe more accurately it is analgous to a fluid, a dynamic organism constantly changing and reforming itself.  I mentioned slavery earlier.  There is no admonition concerning slavery that can be drawn from Biblical sources.  And certainly at some point it was morally acceptable to most of society.  Still, as societies change, the values and morals- which seem so rigid in a narrow view- can change also.  I cannot see acceptance as a negative or ascribe to a view that says unless I deny to others their right to happiness under the arrogant auspices that I possess infallible knowledge about what is best for them, for children, and for society, that our society will collapse.  Rather, accepting humbly that though I may live a different life, I cannot with certainty say that their life together is of less value or that their love and the love they may have for a child is any less noble than a traditional family.

***UPDATE 2 ***

jtobler
It's not the way I beleive, all people are capable of distinguishing right and wrong no matter their beleif, their culture, their upbringing. It's a light given to all human beings. It can be ignored, it can be supressed, it can be misconstrewed, but it's there, and I feel that every human being should be responsible for it.

Now, I certainly think there are worse things than being raised in a homosexual home. Of course a loving environment is important for the growth of a child. Boken homes are scarring too. But I feel so strongly about family that I beleive that we should not have to choose the lesser of two evils. Yes, I said evil. Crucify me.

You're right of course, societies must change, must adapt. I just have problems with ignoring basic concepts of right and wrong. Because of the uber scar America has because of racial bigotry, and because Homosexuals have been wrongly treated in much the same way, they play the guilt card into manipulating good people to get what they want, in this case parenting rights. Call me narrow-minded, but I will forever beleive that a child has the right to be reared by a loving father and a loving mother.

SFS
There are many who would disagree on right and wrong not only in this example, but in many other situations.  How do know which perspective is superior?  We leave behind the metaphysical sources that may divide and conflict between individuals and use reason to search for truths that we share.  The idea of a round earth or a heliocentric solar system met with resistance at first, but now are almost universally accepted.  Far more universally accepted and agreed upon (even in details) than any particular religious view or moral perspective.  This is because it is based in reason.  If scientific, well-executed, unbiased sociological and psychological studies showed that children would suffer severe or lasting emotional damage from being raised by a same-sex couple, then I would most likely support a ban on such a situation as well.  As of now, all serious studies show there is no real difference between those raised by same gender and different gender parents.  I am just not willing to restrict freedom on the basis of personal whim. 

I wasn't trying to use the slavery issue as a guilt issue.  I was using more as an example of changing morals and value in society.  Manifest destiny is another changing value.  The divine right of kings is a value that has changed.  We need to watch for real harm, not simply those trends that harm our particular sense of propriety.

I am far more concerned about a lack of compassion and apathy concerning the world beyond their backyard in America.  I am also more concerned about our unrealistic approach to education reform.  I am not going to call you narrow-minded.  I just hope that you'll reflect upon some of my points and I will reflect upon yours.  I think we are both well-meaning, and it is good that this was a pleasant debate.

Board of review. Small chapel. Feels like home. I'm nervous. Can they tell? I hide my emotions well. Am I ready? It's all come down to this. What? Time to go in?

Brother Watson presents me. He has nothing but great things to say. I don't think I've lived up to all that, have I? Maybe after all I've been through, the thick and the thin, I really have become the amazing young man that he presented to those three review board members. It's hardly my accomplishment though. I wouldn't have done any of it had it not been for my parents, my leaders, my brothers in the quorum, my sisters from home and from the ward, the old and the new. I sure couldn't have done it without the examples that I've seen. If nothing else came from years of scouting, that has been enough. Just being exposed to these wonderful people, these men young and old who taught me to be the best person I can be...

Who taught me to be an Eagle Scout.

Someone was praying for me. They asked me questions, and I gave them answers. Though the questions are not the kind with a right and a wrong answer, I gave the right answer. Everything they asked, the way I felt came to me, as if I had anticipated the question for years. Maybe I have.

I preformed marvelously. They were impressed. I preformed above and beyond myself. I wasn't just Joshua Tobler, I was Joshua Tobler the Eagle Scout. Nothing they said caught me off guard. Everything that came from my mouth blew them away. I was confident, I was calm, I was in control. Somebody was praying for me.

I walked out of that small room knowing full well what the outcome would be. I had overcome every task that was thrown at me, I had mastered the skills, learned the lessons, become the person that they expect an Eagle Scout to be.

The deliberations were over before they began. I walked back in with Dad and Brother Watson. The Review Board Chair shook my hand, and was the first to congradulate me on becomming the Man I had sought to be. I was an Eagle Scout. I am an Eagle Scout.

I am an Eagle Scout.