Ok, seriously, thats enough racism against Israelis, I've put up with it on your previous posts thinking it was a one time thing, but now you're making it a trend. You know I read this, and you knew I'd get offended.

Plus, a lot of the stuff you have on here is ridiculous. Watch the news clip again, and listen this time. Practically all of the bullshit that they say is speculation, they keep saying "its believed that..." or "most likely..." or "based on this polygraph test..." No, those aren't facts, they're assumptions.

Also, what would Israel have to gain from spying on America?! Thats ridiculous, we're allies.

And furthermore, with that Ariel Sharon quote, there is no hebrew word that can be translated into "control" in that context, so either its a wrong translation, or he misspoke.

And what do you mean by "as a self-respecting American... SOMETHING MUST BE DONE."

You know I can take a jew-joke, I often do. But this is just racist and ridiculous, and thats not ok.

It's not racist at all! Like, how am I saying ANYTHING racist? Thats awfully bitchy of you to attack me like that dude. You know I have nothing against the jews. I mean come on... I'm dating a jew!
I'm expressing my political views; expressing them through the presentation of facts. It has nothing at all to do with you. That's weird that you would take it personally... Especially since I say nothing negative.
It is certainly your right to disagree. But that's kinda weird that you assume I put it up because I knew it would offend you. I dont see anything offensive about what I said. All I did was quote Ariel Sharon and put up a news report from a year ago. If it was ANY other country which said that or did that, you would agree with me. Just because you have a special attachment to Israel means that you take offense to it? If any other country's leader said, "We control America." wouldn't that piss you off? It has nothing to do with the country who said it. It's the fact that they did say it.

But personally, Im very surprised by your immature reaction. I mean, I love ya, and just find it alarming that you would assume that I would put something up just to offend you. And I am offended that you would call me racist. I mean goddamn, you know I'm not racist. So uh, what the fuck Ronnie?

this news story was produced by fox news, owned by rupert murdoch, whose mother is a jew. by jewish law, this makes him a jew. if you want to extricate personal sentiments from pure intellectualism, do your research before you spew another tirade. mary knows what she is talking about on this subject, but i think both she and i would agree that i know more. believe me, the offensive double standard of the american jew can only lead to disaster...gentile (goyim) and jew alike need to pull their heads out of their ass if this country is to survive the 21st century. god bless! (oh, sorry: yahweh bless!)

.Whether Rupert Murdoch is Jewish or not, it would still make sense that Fox News would be Anti-semitic. They're overtly-conservative and anti-everything else. Roy Cohn was Jewish and he still sent the Rosenbergs to their death.

.Personally, I like the Jews.

.I don't think Israel is hurting anyone. Except maybe Palestine.

Haha, everyone always assumes it's an anti-jew thing. It's more of an, "Anti-Israel thinking they own America" thing.

.Tell the silly man to go away.

.Or boy.

Haha yeah, I'd like to apologize for manginisticcumb. His politcal points are the truth, but his manner of presenting them... wasn't exactly giving them justice.
Silly manginisticcumb... turning it into a personal thing! He's a meanie sometimes. But I love him, he's my buddy.

So yes.

Peace.

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.You're welcome. Tell Eva I said hello and that Adolf owes me money.

lol i'm definitely not a nazi (they would have killed my people too)...but i would agree if he really wanted to get rid of all the gullible toadies who don't know how to leave good mindsay comments!

 

pwned bitch

.I apologize for making a joke within such a serious topic. A couple jokes. I just can't seem to say something intelligent and worth-while. You're right. I am a "toady." All I've ever wanted to do was flatter the Israeli government into buying me a pony. Or did you even know what a toady was before you called me one?

.And by the way... How certain are you that I'm a gentile, Sir Persnickety?

the comment two comments up has officially made the world a stupider place. thank you, whoever you are, for contributing to the overall state of retardedness found in the world today (which allowed for the widespread jew influence in the first place!) gullible goyim toadies like you make their job that much easier...

.And I find your comment about "retardedness" leading to "widespread jew influence" very intelligent, politically correct, and--might I say tactful? I think I might. Very nice. 

Something should be done but I highly dislike the idea that America decided to interfere. Espcially since we have a huge Jewish and Pal. demographic. If you think about it-- watching the news or not doesn't make a fucking difference. More importantly, picking a side doesn't do anything either for the simple fact that you're turning it into some kind of game. Both sides are wrong to some extent and while it would be foolish to say they need to work it out themselves-- there is NOT much America can do. Plus think about the UN. Think about our policies on intervention. And the alterior motives.

 

And about spies? Hahahahaha. Please don't start that. Every country has an arch nemesis. So drop that shit. Everyone spies on everyone. Russia did it Isreal may do it. But you knwo what AMERICA does it. Did you ever consider that?

 

The Palestinians, the Jews, the gentiles, they all need to get a grip.

.Thank you. And such a cute little goy, too.

Betch. I gots me some intense Jewey pride. We be the Jew Crew! Adieu!

.Heh.

mr fictitious, if you're not going to contribute anything intellectual to the discussion, stop commenting because no one (including the author of the blog standing next to me) wants to waste the time reading them. i make statements that are true...if you would like to argue about them, do your research...because they are fact, and not opinions. velocity said INTELLECTUAL things that one can consider to better understand the topic... 

.Actually, "Velocity" and I are pretty good friends... so... yeah, that statements kind of awkward. 

what makes israeli spying so offensive is that we pay a significant percentage of their defense budget, in addition to giving them nuclear technology, political support, and uncounted economic rebates. we do not even give these things to our best allies (britain, australia, etc.), so one might expect a little but of gratitude. and something can be done--americans must unite and return the political goals of washington towards an american agenda, not one catering to a foreign power. also, pearl and wolfowitz (two of the most important advisors of the early bush administration) had dual citizenship with israel...i am concerned because they are putting their own people in the white house to whisper in the ears of the president. the news is important (or control of the news by jews) because it effectively hides stories such as that of pearl and wolfowitz, in order to polarize american voting patterns and public opinion towards a staunch zionist stance (democrats and repubs alike). thanks for actually contributing, though, unlike mr fictitious, who should really be called captain creative-pants!

.Okay, here's the deal: NOT ALL JEWS ARE ZIONISTS. Many Jews were extremely angry when the United Nations allowed for the creation of a Jewish national homeland.

.And the reason the US pays so much of their defense budget is because our country is at times a Christian theocracy. Christians may not believe Jews are still the chosen people, but many seem to be much more accepting of Israel and a Jewish homeland than they are of Palestine. Especially since "9-11," many Americans see another Muslim nation in the Middle-East as a threat. It's silly, but true. White America wants to defend the chosen people.

.And I can't accept the honor of the title "Captain Creative Pants." The sheer fact that you made up the name yourself makes you much more deserving of the title. Now stupid or unintellectual--those are things I can certainly accept because I'm obviously not as intelligent as you are. I'm so dumb, I even use a shift key.

well done! personally, i don't like the shift key...it holds connotations of a certain, ah, je ne sais quoi. or, if you, prefer italian...non lo so. *self-taught fluent trilinguant* keep that in mind before you get smart about my writing.

 

if white americans were truly supportive of a jewish homeland, maybe they would have given a shit about the zionist movement during the 60 years before the holocaust.  it has largely been out of sympathy for the holocaust that this billion (some say trillion, including the iraq war)-dollar crusade to support the "democratic" entity of israel has endured so long and so strong.  indeed, bush's neoconesque voting constituency of the interior is utterly convinced that jews are the chosen people, and that the temple must be reinstated...they tend to believe both testaments, no matter how contradictory.  in all likeliness, the moment a red calf is born the evangelical christians will sanction the removal of the dome of the rock.  it is, after all, the presence of the temple mount for which the jews chose the land of israel as their own.  this issue is my deepest concern...i would not care about the billions (of american dollars) spent by and for the jews in defense of a land to call their own if it did not run the risk of entangling us in a worldwide religious conflict. 

.I'm glad that you admit you don't know something. Unfortunately, you had to attempt it in French and Italian.

.White America didn't care back then because so much of America was antisemitic--something you obviously seem to know so much about. That's why they sent the boat-loads of holocaust survivors away during WWII.

.Say they run Hollywood. Say they run show business in general. But the country? Go coddle Ann Coulter. Seriously--red calf indeed...

i just got back from two weeks in paris (with a family that spoke no english) and have been to italy three times, six weeks total. i really won't go into everything because this is online and not the place to

Or ya nez nayo, ich wieb nicht, mere ko nehi pata. Saying "I don't know " is easy. Plus, je ne sais quoi and non lo so are some of the most common phrases EVER. So before you flash us with your ego and prove yourself to be over dramatic and pompous, do think about the fact that you really aren't as smart as you say you are. I am quadlingual and have taught myself sign language and bits and pieces of German. So for the love of mankind, give, at least, ME a break before you act like you're a world renowned linguist. Tu no sabes nada, amigo.

(i have a professionally tested i.q. of 145) i won't go into it all because that would be in poor taste

And IQ's mean very little.

ok then. per convincervi, vorrei raccontarvi una piccola storia. c'era una volta due pezzi della stupidita che non sapevano mai quando fermarsi le bocce. quest'era molto maloroso, perque alla prima volta sembravano molto differenti. credo di no!

.I have an IQ of 156. Big deal. Please just stop. It's annoyingly repetitive.

HI 5!

j'espere qu'eventuellement, vous trouverez la verite vous-meme. parce qu'il me semble impossible que deux personnes (plus ages que moi) passeraient leurs temps comme ca seraient interresse dans la verite. alors, si vous n'avez rien d'autre de me dire, c'est bien, parce que j'ai clairment gangne toute ca beaucoup de temps fait. au revoir!

.Je ne parle pas francaise. Il également ne m'inquiète pas.

.*Francais.

anf if you have nothing more to say about the original topic *israeli spying on america* stop being a little faggot bitch

.Wow. I'll take "words you could be fined for using against someone" for 800.

good response...

Wow, you're way too full of yourself. What was the point of responding in French especially when you said absolutely nothing of significance? You said nothing significant in your arguments in English because quite honestly, it's not agreeable. And I'm sorry (one who is of a younger age than us), but if you're going to have a political stance on something like THIS not be agreeable at ALL, then maybe you should check your school notes again. You obviously have some ego issues along with security ones for having not only told mrfictitious that you were a "self taught trilinguant" but to have proved it by writing in French. And on top of that you call MF a faggot bitch. We haven't straight out tried to insult you yet so yes-- maybe this is where I am critical of the way you write. You have no art. Furthermore, you lack any art in argumentation. That being said-- have a good day. I'm done with the conversation and cannot waste any more on your or your need to prove yourself.

the point of responding in french and italian was to prove that i could, because you two clowns were insinuating that i couldn't. it's not insecurity when i know deep down that i am smarter than both of you (in most ways)--it's merely trying to enlighten two people who clearly lost interest in useful discussion a long time ago on this blog. i learned about 5% of my knowledge in school--obviously, liberal education nowadays does not include information on israeli control in this nation. rather, everything i mention on this page was learned by me, for me. ironcally, my father and i share the same views on all of these things--we happened to come to the same conclusions decades apart in dramatically different circumstances. (my father, raised poor, received a full scholarship to yale...) if you would like to argue any of my points you might as well argue them with a man who graduated magna cum laude from yale. i'll be waiting for your responses to this, because they will be entertaining. *and let's not forget the original issue...since the question of class and intelligence is easy to answer, let's move on*

P.S.: you jews should read An Empire of Their Own...it is quite eye-opening

Okay. Now that you want to make a joke out of what I will say, I'll just say this. The fact that you even brought up how many languages you speak is ridiculous because it wasn't relevant. And then you progressed with your IQ which I personally do not believe in. However, if you wish to go into semantics-- I do have a higher IQ than you. And your father. I'm glad he did whatever he did. [And I could care less] but my father did the same and is extremely respectable. Also, while my father is this amazing figure, I have developed my own ideas. And kid, high school is about effort not knowledge. So the whole 5% deal, that's not news to me.

 

If you wish to insult me, don't do it blindly. And I speak in all seriousness. We did discuss the topic and you made it personal. You're being childish and look at this: you aren't talking about the topic either.

 

I already told you my views on this discussion. I do not believe the Americans have any business in Isreal or complaining about espionage we ourselves commit upon everyone else. That is my stance because look at all the shit it has caused. It was a very wrong move.

 

And I have no intentions of reading An Empire of Their Own.

 

We're Jews? Hahaha. I guess we're The Chosen [by Chaim Potok]

 

I'm done.

thank god it's over...that was lifechanging though, really *tear*

one last thing! jews are usually easier to convince than you people, so that's saying something. thanks for letting me get a rise out of you though

also, there does not have to be art in the writing if the facts presented within it are generally indicative of the current state of things

.That's called a textbook. No one reads textbooks--or obviously not you. But I'm glad you're in-touch with your feelings. Sadly, not with any recognizable humor. 

Sheesh, you two are mean!! (You two being mrfictitious and manginisticcumb).

You guys changed a perfectly intelligent and legitimate discussion into a tirad on who's better than who.

Personally... who cares?

Silly.

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