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Well I think that China, showed their true colors with all the deceitful issues that came up.
Agreed.
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China definitely showed their true colors - they'll do anything to be the best, but the sad thing is - they don't get it and probably never will.
We didn't boycott - in fact, we've watched almost everyday and were extremely proud when competitors from our country won. How proud they must feel, up on that podium earning the right to have everyone stand to THEIR county's national anthem. personally I'm very proud of our 8 gold medalist who comes from Baltimore - not only is he an American, but a Baltimorian too! I dn't think it's a bad thing.
We didn't boycott - in fact, we've watched almost everyday and were extremely proud when competitors from our country won. How proud they must feel, up on that podium earning the right to have everyone stand to THEIR county's national anthem. personally I'm very proud of our 8 gold medalist who comes from Baltimore - not only is he an American, but a Baltimorian too! I dn't think it's a bad thing.
With every medal he got, I though of you Ruth! 
LOL -- did you?? How cool is that?!? LOL
I sure did!
I agree with you that it's a good thing to be proud of a local-done-good (and he sure is that. Extraordinary!) I just think it's a shame that nations compete as though it's a war-game. The news here keeps a tally of which nation is in the lead, like it's a competiton to get the most medals, rather than celebrating the locals who've won.
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I just don't see it that way - I think it's patriotic.
But that's my point. It's not about nationalism or patrotism, it's about individual achievement.
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Sorry, I disagree - I think it's about both.
I agree! It is about both.
cool beans. It seems most people agree with you.
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Don't worry, it's doesn't happen often - I'm not usually in the majority. LOL
The ancient Olympics were a Greek affair, where men cam from many of the sovereign city-states to compete. As such, runners were dispatched to announce the beginning of a temporary truce, where each competing polis was forbidden to make war, hold executions, or complete legal proceedings. Though the modern nationstate did not yet exist, the various cities could still use the performance of their athletes as grounds for boasting that they were the best. More fiercely than today's IOC discussions on what city shall host the games, there are many times in antiquity where Greek commanders, cities, and groups used force to impose their will on the games.
It was no more honorable then than now.
It was no more honorable then than now.
Hmm, well spake.
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"The Olympic Games shouldn't be a dick measuring contest!"
Except for in ancient times, when they did them naked! LMAO! Although I didn't boycott, because I think that the athletes that trained their whole life's to get there deserved their time to shine, I share your sentiments that China should NOT be treated like a friendly nation, that the Olympics should NOT have been held there, and they should be looked upon with suspicion. BUt China did not fail us, they have showed their true colors, while the whold world has watched, so maybe, just maybe it was a good thing.
Oh and I like the medal count! Go USA! LOL
Except for in ancient times, when they did them naked! LMAO! Although I didn't boycott, because I think that the athletes that trained their whole life's to get there deserved their time to shine, I share your sentiments that China should NOT be treated like a friendly nation, that the Olympics should NOT have been held there, and they should be looked upon with suspicion. BUt China did not fail us, they have showed their true colors, while the whold world has watched, so maybe, just maybe it was a good thing.
Oh and I like the medal count! Go USA! LOL
Uh, the olympics still ARE a measurement of skill. That's why they have medals, because only the best athletes win them. And that's why they have a tally, because instead of having one winner, you have a nation of them, and the entire nation can celebrate what they can acheive as a country.
If the olympics was all about bragging, would we have had the situation with Eric the Eel that we did in 2000?
But that's my point. The entire nation didn't achieve anything, the athlete did. It's about individual achievement, not national pride. We should celebrate the athlete, no matter what nation they came from because they have done something super-human. We should be celebrating humanity, not countries, that's what the Olympics meant to do.
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So you don't feel proud at all, when one of our swimmers breaks a record, or when we came second in the hurdles the other day?
For shame!
Proud? What for, I didn't do it. I feel a great deal of happiness for the individual who did it but as for "one of our swimmers"? No, "A swimmer" broke a record and should be very proud of it but we didn't do it, we didn't get up at 4AM every day to practice. "We" didn't come secomd in the hurdles, an athlete who trained very hard for a very long time did it.
No, I don't feel proud of someone else's achievement but I do feel happy for them.
. . . and shame on you too. Nya.
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No, we didn't do all that. But we cheer them on, we offer them both financial and moral support. There's a reason people thank the fans, you know.
It's a swimmer representing our country, therefore they are "ours". It's not a term of ownership in this case, it's a term of patriotism and representation. They're from "our" country. It's like somebody representing your school in the nationals.
well, it's silly
NYA.
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Wow, that's a brillo argument. I'm in awe, honestly.
You didn't call me the other night like you said you would! 
I thought you were going to call me after work. Sorry, I wuz waiting for you. LOL, That's funny.
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