"EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW ...
how to fall in love without losing herself."
  ~ Maya Angelou

 

I had lunch with a friend I hadn't really seen in about 10 yrs yesterday.  We met at 11:30 and didn't leave the restaurant until 4:30!  We solved all the major ills of the world, of course, but much of our conversation swirled around the above theme.  I have 2 daughters and she has one ... and we talked about the differences in how we were raised and how we raised our daughters.

 

I was raised in the 50's and 60's ... she's 10 yrs younger than me, but we were all, as little girls, spoon fed Barbie and Cinderella images and dreams.  In other words, we were taught directly and indirectly that the ideal life for us girls centered on marriage & children.  There was little, if any, talk of career or even employment.  There was NO discussion of self-sufficiency or independence.  None.  It was a "given" that all girls would grow up, get married and have babies, and, naturally, live happily ever after with Prince Charming!  My friend's childhood was much the same. OOOPS!

 

My question today is ... What has changed in the last few decades?  Are our little girls still raised with the images of Barbie, Cinderella, and happily-ever-after? I have made a distinct effort to impress on each of my 3 kids (2 girls/ 1 boy) the need for independence.  They each need to be able to support themselves financially and build a life to their own liking.  None of them are in a relationship at this point, and each of them are in fact, pursuing their career ... or at least heading in that direction.  They each have distinct goals and dreams, and a thought-out plan to achieve those dreams ... none of which I had when I was their age!

 

Of course, this in no way diminishes the dream of a happy & fulfilling relationship at some point ... (and grandbabies!), but I have worked hard to demonstrate that there's no hurry!  Get your feet securely planted.  Figure out who you are and who you want to be.  Build your life around your interests, with your priorities. Mr or Ms Right will come along when you least expect it, but if you're busy looking, you may be distracted by a counterfeit! 

 

Girls ...  Ladies, young and, umm, not so ... Cinderella: Friend or Foe?  How many of us were on some level deceived by this fairytale and the dreams it spawns? How many have found themselves trapped in abusive or less than ideal relationships because we had no career to support ourselves, or even to find affirmation. How many women have lost themselves to their relationships without even realizing it? Not very Happily-ever-afterish.

 

OK ... I got off my point, but ... ladies, figure out who you are and who you WANT to be.  We don't NEED a man to do that!  We don't need a Man to confirm our great value, our intelligence, our resourcefulness, our creativity, our compassion, our resilience ... We just need to take the time to get acquainted with ourselves and follow our own passions.  THEN ... we can share ourself without losing who we are. Don't be cheap, ladies! If we want others to respect us, we have to first respect our “own” self! That means defining ourself and coming to terms with our own imperfections and limitations as much as with our talents and outstanding abilities! :) 

 

(sheesh ... am I in Mom mode, or what???)

 

~ B

 
   

 


 
 
astro1701 on
Re: How to fall in love without losing yourself
yeah you are, but not your fault
velvetdreams on
Re: How to fall in love without losing yourself
hahaha
cllecr on
Re: How to fall in love without losing yourself
I don't know... was listening to an NPR story the other day that was exploring the perhaps even stronger "Cinderella" dreams that current professional women have.  Once established and self-confident, they seem to run out of time in the search to find the "perfect someone" they expect to fulfill their dreams of a life-long commitment.  The conversation was about being able to see and accept imperfections in the men they saw as not-quite-good-enough partners so that they could achieve their personal dreams of family and companionship.  I think that experience and confidence may overcome that "love is blind" effect - but at some additional cost in some cases.  Another twist in the changing tide.
bonniegirl on
Re: How to fall in love without losing yourself
But, Carol, don't you think that women are more mature later in life and don't look for or at men the way they used to when they were young?  Their expectations are different, and they are better able to look at the best qualities in the man, and not just how he can support her and so on....that is why second relationships work out so much better....
bonniegirl on
Re: How to fall in love without losing yourself
now this is a great great post...and i must admit that I fell into the trap...thought marriage was then end all and be all...and then felt trapped....for more than 20 years till i got it out of my system...
velvetdreams on
Re: How to fall in love without losing yourself
exactly ... likewise!  Thanks!
bonniegirl on
Re: How to fall in love without losing yourself
Still married, but finally stopped feeling trapped.    Life could have been worse...now I am more settled and not as restless, it will be nice to grow old with the love of my youth, after all. We live and learn.  But had I known, I would not hve gotten into it, to be sure.
unkitty on
Re: How to fall in love without losing yourself
The Disney princess model has gotten way too much backlash. There are some positive things a girl can learn from it - to be kind, to be resilient, to whistle while you work, to not be so aggressive and reactionary-feminist that it scares all the men away!

I think that when a woman truly falls in love, it does involve not losing, but giving herself. With the right person, we will want, out of love, to serve him, to belong to him, to bear his children, and, yes, to change ourselves to be more compatible with him. We can't help it - it's in our biology. Therefore, it won't be a self-betrayal or self-loss - it will be listening ourselves and being comfortable with what that biology says. The movement to be strong! and independent! is no more than a very effective and widespread form of denial.

I have strong goals and ambitions that I plan to pursue. I hope for a Ph.D., and a job as a research neuroscientist. I hope for a Nobel Prize - and I have a plan with implementable steps to reach that goal. However, my greatest goal in life is to get married. Why? Because I have a form of happily-ever-after in my mind, and that is: I want to rest. I want to come home from work and have home feel like home, instead of merely not-work or place-where-I-shower-occasionally. I want the comfort, stablity, and consistency of someone beng there. I know he will stop loving me after we've been married for a year or two in the best-case scenario, and recognize he may even stop loving me before the wedding, or never love me at all. But having a constant in my life, having someone who might occasionally hold me, someone who at least cares enough about me to remind me of meals I'd otherwise skip or tell me to come to bed so I don't work through the night again, is still always better than having no such constant. Thus, as long as a relationship is consistent, any feeling of being "trapped" or "abused," even if founded in actual events, is a problem of perspective on the woman's part. Staying with someone is more humane than leaving her, period.

Back to the concept of rest: Your daughters may seem happy not being in relationships and working in to advance their careers in felds of their interest, but they cannot fight their biology, which dictates that they need partners. I believe that one's interests are those topics and activities that work the best at distracting her (or him) from his/her loneliness and longing for a partner. A person's interests simulate a loving relationship - I am in love with solvng circuits, and working on a challenging one is like a passionate encounter, for example. (This is why I hardly even choose to go to bed - once I'm there, I am no longer distracted and the loneliness floods in.) Once someone is in a relationship, if it is a good, consistent, and dedicated one, his/her primary interest should become his/her partner. Think about the question "Would you leave your current career for your spouse?" If the answer is no, then you're still using that career as a distractor, and haven't found the right person yet. Talents, on the other hand, may be given to us by God to help mankind, but they are given to use by Nature to help us attract a mate and further the species, as is any natural gift. An amazing talent for music is the same as a set of beautiful eyes - they stir the same emotions and sensations in a man - just as a sexy body and "sexual talents" may be equated.

(I guarantee you I've already heard all the ad hominem rebuttals that are about to follow - and can only repeat that they are born out of "a very effective and widespread form of denial." I know who I am, and I know what I want, and the concrete biological basis for my extenson of this to most, if not all women defitintely exists.)
velvetdreams on
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You raise some good points.  First, there is most assuredly a distinct difference between losing your self and giving your self!  And I agree completely.  The problem I see, however, is that there is so much pressure on our young people to find that one and pair off ... even if it only lasts a while.  In other words, one is not quite sufficient  or complete alone.  Our jr highs  ... even grade schoolers are "going together."  So much pressure!

 

Secondly, as to my daughters ... (   )  they are ages 24 & 18.  The 18 yr old is the one who has just joined the Army and although she dates, it is relaxed in the sense that she knows she will not marry any time soon.  The 24 yr old, is just coming out of a rather lengthy relationship with no interest in another one for some time ... long enough to heal old wounds. 

 

My point in writing this was because our kids are bombarded continuously with erroneous images of "love."  From the soaps to the sit-coms, hip-hop to films men and women jumping from bed to bed, swapping partners, shaking it, baking it ... lower, lower, lower ... unless they are along the minority, most kids have not witnessed a "good marraige" built on a real, selfless love. 

 

<<I want to come home from work and have home feel like home, instead of merely not-work or place-where-I-shower-occasionally. I want the comfort, stablity, and consistency of someone beng there. I know he will stop loving me after we've been married for a year or two in the best-case scenario, and recognize he may even stop loving me before the wedding, or never love me at all. But having a constant in my life, having someone who might occasionally hold me, someone who at least cares enough about me to remind me of meals I'd otherwise skip or tell me to come to bed so I don't work through the night again, is still always better than having no such constant. >>

 

Now, this statement ... frankly, blows me away.  Really?  You'd rather be in a loveless relationship than none at all?  Or am I misunderstanding you?

unkitty on
Re: How to fall in love without losing yourself
Yes, because I recognize that love never lasts longer than a couple of years, and I want someone to stay with me longer than that.
velvetdreams on
Re: How to fall in love without losing yourself
I suppose it depends on your definition of love.  There are loves that last a lifetime ... hard to find, certainly ... but just as certainly worth looking for.  I have witnessed it on several counts.  Not only can it last, but it continues to grow and flourish for 35 ... 50 ... yrs or more ...

 

I am finally comfortable alone.  In fact, I'm not only comfortable, but ... content with life.  I have 3 great kids ... and a decent support system of friends and acquaintances.  ALthough a man might be a nice addition, it is without a doubt, NOT a necessity.  Maybe that is my point ... ?  I could never be satisfied to endure one moment of a relationship that was not mutual.  Alone is not a punishment, contrary to public opinion. 

 

What are you seeking in a relationship, if I may ask?


 
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