Another shooting on a college campus...  So many people are comparing it to Columbine, but the first thing it reminded me of was the shootings that happened at Kent State back on May 4th 1970.  The Virginia Tech shootings also remind me of the morbid jokes my roommates used to tell about how they'd love to break out some guns and start shooting, not other students, but faculty and staff for high tuition costs.  No one took such threats seriously, they were just a way to express frustration at the university system.  I am not saying that the individual responsible for the shootings at Virginia Tech had such a grievance, but I'm surprised that more shootings like this don't happen.  It's not due to violent video games or movies, or even relationships gone sour, it is simply senseless... and perhaps that's why so many people are searching for a meaning and cause.  It's easy to blame something as superficial as the media. 

 

Today I saw so many idiot experts on TV comparing it to so many other shootings and blaming it on fake violence, that I just got sick to my stomach.  Stop with the blame game and just focus on getting the victims some help.  Better yet, in stead of universities treating their students like money making machines, faculty and staff should nurture their students as people who are seeking ways to better their lives.  When I am a student, I am their boss.  I'm there spending my money on getting an education.  I'm not there to fund their pet projects or kiss their asses. 

 

The other thing that concerns me is that every time I've turned on the radio or TV today, all I hear loudly is "the shooter is an ASIAN man" with the emphasis of the voice of reporters on "asian" which makes me think some are already considering the race issue.  But from what I've seen broadcast online and on TV, it seems like this guy's real issue was breaking up with a girl.  He was well armed -- and prepared for war.  He used a 9mm pistol and a 22 caliber, chained the doors to keep people from escaping, and it was all premeditated.  Whoever he was, my strongest feelings about him were that he wanted to die and take out and hurt as many people as possible out of hate, anger, isolation, perhaps even out of revenge.  He exploded.  For weeks previous, there were bomb threats on this campus... they had no idea they needed to be looking for a human bomb.

 

Which begs me to ask, "how can you stop a person from exploding like this?"  No one seems to have an answer for that.

 

And yet there are so many assumptions... so many people already using this tragedy to fuel their hatred for so many things...  Already there's an exploitation of this going on in the news.  Every idiot in the box wants to get you as angry as this shooter was and they want that anger directed towards idiot causes that only serve to distract you from living your life to its fullest.  Don't buy into the blame game. 

 

Perhaps there was no way for this to be prevented.  Perhaps some people's anger explodes like this as an act of nature does.  Once the flood gates open, we are all helpless in the wake of its power.  The best thing to do is to move on, survive, contribute something meaningful to society, and instead of drowning in despair, find a way to revive your love and passion for something -- something that can empower you to rise above the shit in this world.  Individuals who hold a gun to your head want you to give up and die.

 

That's what I've been struggling against these past three years -- trying to survive against the ill will of the motherfuckers who want me to roll over and die -- it's incredibly hard to live with that gun in your face, hard to face the world with even just the memory of that gun, knowing that gun could unload in your face -- so many times now I've wanted to move back to Milwaukee, but I'm still not yet ready to face that challenge.

 

The thing that chills me the most is it was a 9mm handgun that was held against the head of my father on August 2004...  That was the last gun I have seen up close and personal.  The gun was never fired, but the terror hit me as hard as a bullet.  The guy who robbed my father and I is now in jail, thank the Gods, but recovering from the terror continues.  My heart goes out to the students of Virigina Tech.  I feel like I do with every tragedy that unfolds on the television screen, helpless and wishing I could something to help...

 

And still struggling under the gun.

   

 
   

 


 
 
tsukinoeika on
Re: My thoughts concerning the Virginia Tech shootings
The only thing that I find interest about the possible suspect being Asian is that he doesn't fit the norm as far as homicides go.  It's almost always a white male.  It makes me wonder how far removed he is from the first generation of his family that moved to this country.  Statistically, Asians aren't particularly violent.

Of course, this is the Sociologist in me coming out.
valentinaxxx on
Re: My thoughts concerning the Virginia Tech shootings
Well, in Wisconsin a couple years back there was an Asian man that went berserk on some hunters during deer season.  He also didn't fit the usual profile and he claimed that he was defending himself, yet he was the one intruding on other people's land.  Makes you wonder...
sebastiana on
Re: My thoughts concerning the Virginia Tech shootings
My friend David is a student at Vtech...   I spent most of yesterday in tears waiting to hear his status. 

Heres what I had waiting this morning on myspace..
The horror at Virginia Tech
Body: For anyone who's worried, we're all ok here. I don't know yet if anyone I know was hurt. We do know that the University is trying to cover its ass because it would have prevented all of this if they had locked the buildings after the first shooting. No one was on campus. If you can not get into the building, then you would not have been in classes in the first place. "We did our best" is not good enough when you make history.

This a sad repeat of the insufficient action taken by the University during an Emergency.

dzig
valentinaxxx on
Re: My thoughts concerning the Virginia Tech shootings
OMG, he's absolutely right.  That was my first thought that morning -- it happened so early in the morning, why didn't they shut down the school?  I still can't believe it happened.  And I'm glad your friend turned out to be okay!
bbmyls2go on
Re: My thoughts concerning the Virginia Tech shootings
One thing that has improved as these types of incidents have become more routine, is the support services offered immediately, to victims, to witnesses, and to first responders.  As a fire-fighter several years ago, I had just come out of a townhouse relieved from the hoseline by the second crew.  On arrival we knew we had one DOA.  I had barely taken off my air bottle when staff from the county informed me and my team that we were to report to the response bus for what would be the first of several counseling sessions.

You mention about schools needing to be more nurturing, and as more info comes out, it does appear an english teacher who read one of the shooters disturbing screen plays attempted to direct him to counseling, so awareness of things like that are much more widespread than they used to be (if only more parents were so attentive).

I've just recently heard that he was possibly on depression meds, and from other events, I wonder if it will turn out he had been treated for some type of bi-polar disease.  I don't know what the common med for that is, but it seems to me that many of the more out-of-character violent sprees by people have been those who quit their medication without medical supervision. 

From a security standpoint, I don't think there is any way to stop things like this from happening.  In smaller schools, like elementary-high schools, you can always lock doors, hirer more guards and maybe even install metal detectors and do searches - but that isn't possible on a campus with 25,000 students, the majority who commute to the school.  Even gun control is not an answer - there are those that smarmily say this could never happen if the guy only had access to a knife, but that's simply not true - there have been several well documented attacks around the world (I'm thinking specifically of one in Ireland 4 years ago and another in Japan a few years back) with knives or other blades.

 

We can only wait and see what we would each do in circumstances like these.  I, too, have had a gun in my face, and it has simply made me much more aggressive about my personal space.  But the feeling of being victimized never goes away.  There are some incredible tales of heroism to come out of this event as there seems to be in most similar crimes (think of the man in NYC who threw himself in front of a subway train to cover and protect a stranger who had fallen onto the tracks). 

 

Nice post, I hope you have success in the future with your own issues and how you cope with the memory.bb.

valentinaxxx on
Re: My thoughts concerning the Virginia Tech shootings
That was comfort to see -- more immediate counseling right after events like these for both victims and emergency workers, for sure.

The thing about the English teacher really irked me.  She was completely ignored by the rest of the staff and, even when Cho did try to take her advice to get help, he was also let down.  Too often people expect mentally disturbed students to get help on their own.  More needs to be done to help students with problems like his.  Most universities are just not equipped to handle the mentall ill.  I, for one, know that first hand.  I was suspended from classes after being treated for pyschiatric problems, but no one from the college really offered a helping hand, just a boot out.  That was very hard for me to deal with.  I was two semesters away from graduation and, after ten years of treatment, am now finally trying to get back in.  However, I was never deemed a danger to other students or myself, the university just deemed I was not well enough to attend classes.  If I had had at least one advisor who was familiar enough with my problems to help, that would have been blessing.  In the case of Cho, it is truly sad that no one could've helped him or at least prevented him from acting out.

Young men with bi-polar disorders do tend to act out like he did, but in smaller ways.  My family has a history of this illness and only now has there been enough information for us to recieve more help, however the stigma is what really prevents people from getting immediate help.  If you are already feeling like an outsider in society, you'll become even more isolated as soon as you are deemed mentally deficient.  Especially the young have a hard time.  When I was first involuntarily admitted into a facility for my mental illness, I lost all of my friends.  They refused to believe that there was anything wrong with me.  It was too much for them and even worse for me.  I was Cho's age when I was first treated for bi-polar disorder, however my doctors did not know what exactly it was, so I was first treated for depression and anxiety, was over medicated, and missed a lot of classes, and later, when my family refused to help, I became homeless.  That's what happens to many mentally ill people.  It's a shame.  What helped me survive was the support of my younger brother who also suffers from similiar problems.  Together we've managed to get healthy!

I agree with you on the security points.  Not all mentally ill people act out like this.  You can't predict who is going to be violent.  Also, on a major college campus, it's incredibly difficult to create a lock down -- there's too many commuters and other students off campus coming in, however announcing the danger on radio and television stations could have forewarned people off campus at least.  Perhaps there needs to be other ways to work things out, but it's still difficult.

The biggest thing as far as the gun control issue is that if you are mentally ill, you cannot purchase guns.  I know I can't, however since nothing much was done to get Cho psychiatric help, he could still get a gun.  Another similiar case, was the Uni-bomber -- he was mentally ill yet he still could make bombs and send them to people in the mail.  There's only a small percentage of mentally ill people who do this, the trick is to get people therapy so they can direct and work out their aggression in creative and constructive ways, yet these individuals were isolated, refusing to even talk directly with others.  How do you help someone who is so sick they cannot acknowledge they need help?

 

Thanks so much for your kind comments and insights.  They are truly appreciated as we all try to make sense out of the senseless!

JohnDHolley on
Re: My thoughts concerning the Virginia Tech shootings
"how can you stop a person from exploding like this?"  Straight answer is probably you cannot, you will not be able to see it until it is too late.  Like most breakdowns, which this undoubtably was you cannot predict it happening unless that person realises it is wrong to feel this way
valentinaxxx on
Re: My thoughts concerning the Virginia Tech shootings
You are right.  Just because there is a question of "why" or "how" doesn't mean there is an answer.  For some of us who are mentally ill, we still have that little inkling of a feeling that tells us that what we are thinking about doing is wrong, so we stop and talk about it.  Others, like Cho, did not have that feeling or simply his anger was too loud for him to listen to reason.  All in all, it is a very sad thing that happened and I feel for the families and friends of the victims.  We can only hope that in the wake of this tragedy that perhaps more people will find new ways to help others.

 
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