Prayer is definitely also a very strong way to rid one's self of a curse. Even thinking you are cursed can be a curse in itself, but it's my experience that very few people are intentionally cursed by someone else. In any case, I thought it important to point out!
Thanks for compliments on the new layout. I tend to change my look every now and then and wanted this time to focus on the spiritual.
Very cool entry! Quite fascinating, I love this stuff. And I had to laugh to see "strega" used as a tag.
I am also laughing this morning because I am now realizing how tired I was when I first quickly skimmed over this last night. I was totally not thinking jabbing the point of one needle into the eye of the other needle...I was thinking oh, ok, find the other person who put the evil eye on you and jab that person in the eye! I just nodded sleepily and went to bed, thinking yeah, that makes sense. Good thing I wasn't planning to actually use this.
Yeah, I am a strega! It's the Italian word for "witch." But, yes, it is cool to use it as a tag finally.
That's really funny that you took that literally. That's exactly how a spell works; an extreme amount of intense visualization. Witches go into a trace or alpha state of consciousness when working a spell and it does feel like almost falling asleep or the drowsiness you get when you're very tired. For some reason that's when dreams are most potent and meaningful. But glad you didn't actually go out and stab anyone in the eye!
Heh...I've always heard "strega" in a less positive way...Robert's friend who was born in Italy taught us this word among other gems. It's cool to see it in a different context!
Yeah, it's one of those words that's making a more "tame" and respectible comeback, just like the english word "Witch" is, too. But, yes, I have heard it in a less favorable terms!
You found this on accident? How did you come across it? Just curious.
In this post I was just generalizing things. I could've gone into greater depth/details but I was just addressing the subject matter and dealing with it on a layperson's terms. Sure I could've gone into the ENTIRE traditional rite and spelled out how to repeat/recite the rhyme, given clues as to who to approuch for instruction, and wrote down what some people teach that can't be learnt again. I am fully aware that there are Italian families who have their own ways of doing and teaching things and perhaps what I was taught was only just one way, but it has been a way that has worked time and time again for me and for the family who taught me it. I've heard and read of many different ways of expelling the Malocchio as well as ways to cast the Malocchio on someone. I'm just talking about the way I was taught how to do it and comparing it with some other forms that have been recorded that supposedly work. Of course I didn't give everything away because there's only so much you can demonstrate in a blog, but you get the idea. If I were to sit down and talk about it, I'd only do it at a certain time under the right circumstances with the right people, but even then, to some people/families I'd still be incomplete or be under criticism because everyone who is taught this is taught to consider it the only way. In my research I've found that there are MANY ways to do this and it isn't just the Italians who hold the copyright on how to remove the Malocchio.
Sure, I'm not Italian but my teacher was and I'm only following what he taught me. I was engaged to be married to him for several years, the relationship didn't work out, but what he and his family taught me remains with me to this day and we're still friendly with each other. I also have a lot of friends who are Italian who have never heard of this stuff, so not every Italian is well versed with Strega rites and has just the same chances of being wrong or, in your words, "stupid."
Your statements above confuse me because you're calling me stupid no matter what! You say that if I already knew what you just told me means I'm stupid for posting it and then I'm also stupid for not knowing it and bad luck for me for even mentioning the Malocchio! Thing is, people have talked about it for years and, like I said above, everyone has their own way of dealing with it. My way is just one way and I hope I've clarified that. In any case, this is just something I talked about in my own personal blog and I do not claim to be an expert on this subject, I just know that every time I've had to deal with this curse what I do has worked for me and others.
I also know what it's like when someone who isn't from your ethnic background claims to know something about your culture and gets it wrong and the need to correct them is strong. I am of mixed heritage, Menominee and Chippewa American Indian with Slavic and Germanic background with a little French -- basically I'm what you call an American mutt so to speak and, on all sides of my family, there has been a long history of various shamanic and ceremonial magick traditions. I don't mind being corrected on something I got wrong and welcome anyone to fill me in and/or open a discussion with me, but I don't like to be insulted for simply repeating something I was taught that you may feel is wrong. So, feel free to add your thoughts on the subject but please don't call me stupid! I certainly don't know EVERYTHING and I'm always learning, but you don't know me enough to call me stupid
And with that said, I might as well talk about this subject again in my blog...
i came across this article when searching for soem information for my dad in google.
i am fully aware that the malocchio isnt only italian, from what i know greeks, lebanese and some spanish people have similar beliefs, and similar ways of removing it, particularly the lebanese..
in reguards to your friends who are italian and dont know of it...the malocchio is generally something known/practeced by southern italians, eg. people from calabria, sicilia, basilicata, puglia, and sometimes napoli. also, some people from the younger generation tend not to take much notice of it. i too have friends who very much doubted that this worked.
once again i didnt mean to offend you, i was mearly stating that there was certain rules, and that people who read it on here and tried to use it wouldnt have much of an effect, because the rule states that it has to be learnt on a special night around chirstmas, on the stroke of midnight. also i wasnt trying to say that youre stupid for mentioning the theory of the malocchio itself, i was saying that you shouldnt have mentioned the actual rhyme, traditionally that ryhme i a right that has to be earned, and USUALLY only passed from mother to daughter/father to son...ah well
I wasn't offended too badly, so don't worry! Anyways, the rhyme I got has been published, but not by me, and it may not be complete. So what you propose is very, very interesting. But, yeah, I get ya. No worries,
Didn't read throught the whole thing, but found it interesting, in my own research that it is said that those with "blue" eyes are more likely to give the malocchio. As I was searching through something I came across your MindSay thing, but also a malocchio charm, which, just so happens to be a BLUE EYE....also, blue denim lapis is said to ward off the evil eye worn on the left hand on the pointer finger (read that in 5000 Spells book)...
Anyway, I have blue eyes and can give a mean stare......
Since this can only be learned on Christmas Eve, I hope you read it then. Here is the procedure. You'll need a white ceramic dish, oil, salt and a silver knife.
Place water in the dish.
Make the sign of the cross on yourself 3 times.
Make the sign of the cross on the dish 3 times saying "Male Spiritu Spedeech" each time.
Place your little finger in the oil and drip it into the dish making the sign of the cross with it.(no words) If the oil gets larger, the person has the evil eye.
Pour salt in making the sign of the cross 3 times. (no words)
Take the knife and cut into the water making the sign of the cross. (no words) This should rid the person of the curse.
Pour the water out and do this procedure 2 more times