"Man is never alone.  Acknowledged or unacknowledged, that which dreams through him is always there to support him from within."  ~Laurence van der Post
 
   

 


 
 
saikotikgunman on
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I'm more a subscriber to the "we're always alone, forever" perspective.
bahamat on
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Sai - Not alone when you've got yourself , for now that will have to do... And slowly we can work towards turning other people into as much company as they can be, for what it's worth
saikotikgunman on
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By definition, if you have yourself, you are alone.
bahamat on
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Whatever, but I mean your own mind can be company and support for you, it can feel like you're always with a good friend, who you can trust and lean on
saikotikgunman on
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Only if you don't take your meds.
bahamat on
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What's actually insane is self-destruction, we have this one life. Where's the sense in not feel better if you can?- At least the people who do delude themselves live happier lives.
Living without any comfort at all - that's what's sad, at the end of the day they are the fools who missed out on enjoying life
saikotikgunman on
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You can find happiness and comfort alone, without forcing yourself to pretend you have multiple personality disorder.

In fact, the happiness an individual finds alone is greater than that which comes from interpersonal relationships simply because it belongs solely to the individual, so he can enjoy it in its entirety.

But being happy alone makes you no less alone.
bahamat on
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Maybe so, but any way is a goer, you don't have to force yoursef, but it is an option. Call it a disease or disorder if you want to demonise it, but you don't have to.

 

Maybe for you, dunno, but I am a person who needs people at the end of the day, I am not able to find happiness alone, I've had years alone and it was crushingly painful and goes against the grain of what my nature is deep down. That's why I do what I do; even if that means tricking myself into thinking I have company, I'd rather be happy than in pain, where would be the sense in being permanently stuck in a situation we find distressing and not be able to do anything about it?

 

"But being happy alone makes you no less alone"

If you want to feel alone you can tell yourself that.

saikotikgunman on
Re: Quote for tonight. Good night.
There's no use living a lie, simply because you find the fiction more pleasurable than the truth.  Even for people who have a truly horrible life, there's always something pleasant to be found.

And even if there were not, real pain is far more worthwhile than false joy.  We only have one life to live, and if we're going to obscure it with fantasy, then there's no point in living it at all.
bahamat on
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If they look positively, then yes, there is always/nearly always something positive, like with any event, just depends on noticing it and using it to our advantage.

I'm not sure about that, if that person was to know zero/little genuine happiness, then their life would be (practically) nothing but pain, there would be no point living (or creating) such a life either. It's like we wouldn't want to keep an animal sufferring, and even when we have no-hoper people dying in hospital we drug them up with morphine because false joy is all they're ever going to get, and it's the best we can give, otherwise it'd only be pain, nothing but.
Some people, like myself, only delude as a coping stratergy while alone or something - just to tide me over, while I'm in waiting for something good. Because I cannot wait, to me it might as well be forever because it really could be for all I know, and I can't cope like that.
uyoku on
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Wow, interesting discussion. 
I appreciate hearing from both point of views, very interesting.
Thank you! ^_^

 
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