The Archbishop of Canterbury somewhat plays the role of the Pope of Roman Catholic Church to global Anglicans. That would include the Episcopalian Church USA.

As I read this sermon/speech by the Archbishop I became very disconcerted. The Archbishop is not concerned on keeping the Anglican Communion together based on Biblical principle, for he explicitly believes that homosexuals are people that should be afforded the rights and privileges of normal people. This means the Archbishop does not view the homosexual lifestyle as sin and deviant behavior as defined by the Holy Bible.

The Archbishop's problem then is to put a used car salesman's spin on the situation to keep the family together. Basically he proposes variation of associations rather than direct links to Canterbury and each other as a point of unity. You see, the Anglicans outside of Europe are Bible believers and find homosexuality as deviant and sinful. The American ECUSA is divided and will probably split between liberal heretics and conservative Bible Believers.

An ECUSA congregation in Texas is preparing to make such a transition.

If you have been following this moral influence in America:
Democracy and Divine Government, The Gay Episcopalian USA, Presbyterians (USA) and Episcopalians (USA) Should Form a Club, The Episcopalian Homosexual Compromise and Some Episcopalians Understand Biblical Morality.

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Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury
Sermons and Speeches
27th June 2006

Click the ”Sermons and Speeches” link to read His Holiness [sic] the Archbishop of Canterbury lame attempt at unity while maintaining the acceptance of the sin of homosexuality.

 
   

 


 
 
garyo36 on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Would you fucking stop the God Damn gay bashing! ???? Why do you hate gays so much? And quit trying to blame it on your fucking ignorant religion! It has nothing to do with  your religion.. it has to do with YOU! Do you even believe in God? Really? Is that a fact? BE FUCKING HONEST! No one knows if there is a God! NO ONE!! QUIT TRYING TO USE GOD TO JUSTIFY YOUR PREJUDICE FOR GAYS! I hate you and people like you more than you have any reason to hate me for being gay! Way more! You are a fucking piece of shit! Fuck you! You fucking piece of shit! Fucking stop!
theway2k on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Gary your response proves my point in the lack of moral restraint. Such language from a person claiming to seek a godly path. Tisk Tisk. Smiley
garyo36 on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Well.. I plan on going to Utopia when I die where you're allowed to be an asshole if you want...and pay the reasonable consequences for being one... key word.. reasonable! See ya!

Gary O

theway2k on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Your Utopia sounds like the Paradise of Mohammedan carnal pleasures for males to the exclusion of females. Key word: delusional. Smiley
garyo36 on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Is it delusional to expect God to be fair, to be right, to be perfect, to be REASONABLE? I think not! Le-way is fair which is right and since God is right He must be fair so Le-way must be true! See my logic? Besides a four headed Beast told me about it! It must be true if a four headed Beast told me about it! Don't you think? Has that ever happened to you? See ya!

Gary O

theway2k on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
It is delusional to judge God according to the ways of humanity. Instead humanity must make the effort to confirm to the image of the Creator. The only thing that is fair is to view anything through the filter of God. All else is delusional and human centered.
garyo36 on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
If it doesn't make sense to me, it's wrong so far as I'm concerned.. I mean why would I agree with something that's wrong to me? You can't exactly expect me to be true to myself if I think it's wrong... can you? The problem is that you're not being true to yourself.. You're relying on an outdated religion to tell you what you think.. not what you think! And if it's not what you think what difference does it make? Won't God notice the discrepency? See ya!

Gary O

theway2k on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Christianity is only outdated to the morons who do not believe. Statistically most Americans call themselves Christians. It is only the loud voices of homosexual rights and the likes of anti-Christian organizations as the ACLU that vainly attempt to discredit Christianity. God is coming get ready.
garyo36 on
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You can stand be up at the gates of hell and I'll stand my ground! What's fair is fair! Christians believe that you have to believe in Jesus to go to Heaven. That's not fair! Le-way on the other hand is perfectly fair and fortunately so is God! See ya!

 

"God, whose names are great and many,

I ask that there may be justice for both friend and foe

And for myself.

Amen"

theway2k on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
We shall see in the end. That which humanity defines as fair is selfish. That which God defines as fair is based on Obedience of the Creator/creation relationship. In fairness God offers a choice of life or death, Heaven or hell and Christ or Satan in the lake of fire.
garyo36 on
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I have faith. God is fair. God makes sense. God is reasonable. It doesn't take God to determine the most basic and simple truths. Even people are capable of that. God made us in His image. And you're right! Someday we'll know or we'll simply be dead! See ya!

Gary O

theway2k on
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The Creator makes the rules, that is fair.

Smiley

garyo36 on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Not if the rules are wrong! Hypothetically speaking?? Would you worship the creator even if He was evil in your eyes? Worshipping God just because He is God is a cop out! There's only one reason to worship God and that's because...you know what? Nevermind, cuz if you don't know, I'm not gonna tell you! It's a secret! See ya!

Gary O

theway2k on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
The clay telling the potter what is and is not fair? That is how deception and sin entered this material worldly existence. The Creator makes the rules, it is Divine Will that determines fairness not human will.

 

Israelites had to wander 40 years in the wilderness to figure that out.

garyo36 on
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There is no such thing as Israelites! It's all deception I tell you! DECEPTION!
theway2k on
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You sound like you might be from the great land of Egypt, living on the famous river DE-NILE. Smiley
garyo36 on
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There's no such thing as Egypt either! It's deception I tell you! DECEPTION!

When will you come around? See  ya!

Gary O

theway2k on
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LOL
garyo36 on
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All I know is that I think so therefore I am! See ya not existant me-dom!

Gary O

theway2k on
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I exist in Christ and you can too.
garyo36 on
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475. Believing in God is like believing in what’s right. It’s not much more than that!

Gary O

theway2k on
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In my faith realm, believing in God is everything. It is God that is the determination of right and wrong or fairness or injustice.
garyo36 on
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So how would you know if He was wrong?
theway2k on
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Interesting question Gary. I am not a philosopher, rather I am a Believer. I will take a lame leap at philosophy though, for it is a curious question.

 

If God could ever be wrong, why would He create? (Pretty Socratic of me huh? Smiley)

garyo36 on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
No God would be better than the God you believe in! Why? Because no one would go to hell and heaven doesn't justify sending everyone else to hell.. philosopher? To be a philosopher you have to ask hard questions.. It's more important to understand why you are wrong than why you are right. If you do this and lose your faith you will have gained so much more! See ya!

Gary O Smiley

theway2k on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Ask simple questions hard answers find, Master Yoda. Smiley

garyo36 on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Will you at least admit that you have no more reason to believe in Christ than I do? Is it not hypothetically possible that there is no God what so ever? Let alone,,, the one you speak of?
theway2k on
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Nope
garyo36 on
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You are a stubborn one! See ya!

Gary O Smiley

garyo36 on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
It doesn't matter what's true furthermore! What matters is what's right! And you are clearly wrong! A thing is right or wrong (and to the degree that it is right or wrong) for reasons that can be determined! A sin can usually be defined as an action or behavior that brings harm to one's self or another. There are exceptions to the rule which most often involve the greater good or the lesser of two evils but also include what I call the lesser sins. The lesser sins are sins that do not necessarily bring about harm to anyone but are still apart from Gods will (in other words not something we'll be doing in Heaven) I rebuke you! I speak the truth! I SPEAK THE TRUTH! YOU DO NOT!
theway2k on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Herein is TRUTH:

 

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. (Romans 1: 18-27. NKJV)

 

It is evident that you do not speak the Truth but are blinded by the darkness of your own passions. There is Grace that shines like a beaming light in Christ Jesus:

 

6 But the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’”[c] (that is, to bring Christ down from above) 7 or, “‘Who will descend into the abyss?’”[d] (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”[e](that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”[f] 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”[g] (Romans 10: 6-13 NKJV)

 

I do not rebuke you Gary. I pray the Wisdom and Revelation of the Knowledge of Christ beam strait into your heart and mind that the Love of God apprehends you and consumes you in faith. In Jesus' Name. Smiley

 

 


garyo36 on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Gods light already shines on my soul...God is even more reasonable than I am.. It makes no sense to condemn someone to hell over what religion they belong to... I have faith... that God makes sense...that whatever He says I deserve will make sense.. and that what you're proposing makes no sense at all.. It's like comparing God to Hitler! In the words of Ozzy, "No sympathizing God is insanity!" See ya! Smiley
theway2k on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Gary the innate anger that you portray in profanity is not evidence of light, but rather of darkness. The alternative lifestyle of homosexuality is conduscive to that darkness.
garyo36 on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
My innate anger is the result of a constant drunken state.. not homosexuality!
theway2k on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Perhaps one is related to the other and you cannot see it.
garyo36 on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
Well.. I hate people who hate gays and alcohol exagerates our feelings.. so maybe it's related in that way... you are an asshole in my opinion... I think you should have a bigger problem with people who smoke personally! And I smoke! See ya!

Gary O

theway2k on
Re: Anglican Disintegration
I do not hate homosexuals, I pray for the Light of God to deliver them from the darkness of a godless lifestyle. Smoking might kill ya, I'll pray for that too.

Smiley


 
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