The Genesis Enigma: Why the Bible Is Scientifically Accurate, by Andrew Parker an introduction to natural history with a hint of Genesis thrown in.Oxford evolutionary biologist Parker does not profess to be a particularly religious man, but he is intrigued by a simple question. How did the writer of the first chapter of Genesis - the biblical creation story - basically get it scientifically correct? Never mind the seven-day part, which the author easily dismisses. Parker is astounded that the order of creation described in Genesis follows the order of geologic and life evolution as science understands it. 'Either the writer of the creation account of Genesis 1 was directed by divine intervention,' he writes, 'or he made a lucky guess.'

 

This mystery is the Genesis enigma. Parker believes a lucky guess to be all but out of the question, and he views the accuracy of the creation account to be a proof of the existence of God, or at least a higher being of some kind. The author takes the reader step by step through the creation story,explaining how each segment aligns with an era in the evolution of the earth and the life inhabiting it. The creation of the sun is followed by the creation of the earth, with its oceans and land masses, followed by the earliest life forms, etc. Eventually Genesis tells us that lights divide day and night, a step which Parker ties to the development of eyesight in life forms and the evolutionary revolution that ensued. Aquatic life came before land life, though the writer of Genesis had no scientific way of knowing this; birds have their own special mention in the story, and they are indeed evolutionarily distinct.

 

Parker raises plenty of interesting questions, but he focuses almost exclusively on natural history,barely scratching the surface of the background of the text he is highlighting. Only in an appendix does he begin to delve into the rich textual and historical research about the creation story in Genesis.

 
   

 


 
 
jimshields on
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I disagree with the title of this post.

"Scientifically accurate" are words that require actual scientific methods. And what this Andrew Parker described was as scientific as that Italian doctor who claimed that "cancer is a fungus", and his argument: "they're both white".

Interesting post nonetheless.
theguambomb on
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The word science is derived from the word meaning knowledge...and assuming knowledge can only reach as far as one who interpreters it, the bible could be deemed "Scientifically Accurate" right, according to Parker?

 

And thanks.

jimshields on
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Well, if you put it that way, I guess so.
theguambomb on
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I like the way you think Jim. So far anyway.

 

Chaps

bahamat on
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If science is true, and always maintaned, then it must be part of the jigsaw puzzle, and religion must work around what is proven to be true. Same with what parts of religion are true, there must be an explanation, but parts of both might co-exist (i.e. science doesn't rule out god, but it may have a say in how creation happened, and it may put restrictions on how much can be due to intervention - it almost gives god an excuse for some things that happen, like tidal waves and eathquakes must happen when they do if the rules always have to be obeyed)
theguambomb on
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You are really on to something here bahamat. Are you saying that no matter what religion we are, science if applied to creation and maintenenace of all that has been created, must have a relationship with its creator and follow the rules of the creators handiwork? While I don't believe God needs an excuse for anything, how we apply what we know through science determines how creation, us and our world, reacts. God watches a broken planet destroy itself because of our horrific choices but gives us an out and a way to get through the trials of life in His son Jesus, who sort of broke a few laws of science himself, ie virgin birth and resurrection. Now there's some science for you.
bahamat on
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Thankyou!
If both God and science are true, then yes, there must be a link! It's a hierarchy - Because we live within the laws of science, we cannot change them, but if the laws of science exist within God's imagination for what the universe should be like, then God sets them and isn't bound to them - much like we could imagine a world in our own head with it's own rules of physics so that it could support life inside that would be part of our conciousness. I think conciousness is the only thing that matters in the universe, the whole of creation is just to support it, and all concious, sentinent things matter because we may be figments of God's thoughts - cut of his cloth, so that we are created in his image. The universe being imaginary would allow the rules to be broken when/if they needed to be (i.e. at creation). Without God, it's hard to explain why the laws of physics exist, let alone stay what they are. Although I do think the bible was the word of God, I don't think he ever intended it to be taken at face value... I think a lot of it is analogies, general messages, and symbolism which everyone should learn from - the stories don't even have to be true to make their point, I think it wanted people to care for each other basically - sins are sins because they hurt people. And being a good person has to be more important about the quality of the person in my book than the technicalities, like version of belief, etc.

I have a theory - that humans may have problems, because God himself may be trying to figure something out. - We are his mind clashing with itself. If we are a hero on earth and help heal psychological wounds, we help heal God. Anything that hurts God's children, hurts him. I think our psychological role with the creator is very intimate. I think people make mistakes and have wrong priorities to learn from the hard way, it's hard to stop it. It's only a matter of time until people see precisely why what they're doing is so wrong, it's just a case of getting the worst offenders to realise, because they will always use the innocent as a shield.
theguambomb on
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Interesting thoughts for sure.
bahamat on
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Any thoughts on it out of interest? Like can everything being within God's mind fit in? - or would it make sense as to how it's all within God's domain and why we're important to him? - I think God acts through people - and so would satan or any other beings - they seem to control the world and express themselves through people's conciousness and choices, rather than intervene in moving non-living matter, because that'd break the laws of thermodynamics
misterskank on
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I could write for days, weeks really, about all the good things about the Bible, Chaps, but—good god!—scientific accuracy is not one of them!

: )
Bob
theguambomb on
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Parker seems to think so and neither one of us are evolutionary biologists. He is one up on us... and he is thinking which you have always cherished. 
theguambomb on
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Parkers book is a shocker, no matter how you look at it.

 

It has all the ingredients to get people going and you it seems.

 

One of the UK's top young research scientists, an evolutionary biologist from Oxford University, whose main area of research is in the evolution of sight and the eye. He is a mild atheist. Then he comes out and blows everyone away by writing this book.

 

I find it interesting because the atheists are incensed. The interview in the UK's The Metro is hardly sympathetic, and the internet discussion boards are full of statements like: "It's sad that some people have this time bomb in their heads that, when presented with enough complexity, explodes and makes them think all sorts of craziness" and "It sounds as though Professor Parker found himself a pair of Bible goggles. Everything looks different when you look at the world through your Bible goggles."

 

I'm a hard core creationist Christian of course and I can't rejoice too much, because Parker is still a strong evolutionist, and said in the interview: "Creationism is totally unfounded. It is as dangerous as fundamentalism in other religions." And more moderate christians who believe in theistic evolution look a little askance because he seems to have no understanding of their carefully worked out rules for interpreting Genesis.

"It appears that the author of the creation account had predicted precisely the true history of the earth and life. The Genesis Enigma will explain that no human could have constructed a creation story in this way, particularly in Biblical times."

So Parker, once "leaned toward being an atheist" but "that’s changed during the writing of this book" - "it’s the strongest evidence for the existence of God I’ve come across."

 

But exactly what he believes isn't clear just yet - perhaps not even to him, as he seems to be still working out his conclusions.

 

Whatever you think of this conclusion, he is clearly a brave man who is driven by what he believes is the evidence. He won't be popular among his scientific colleagues.

 

I think we can learn a lot when established patterns are challenged. We can watch with interest, and perhaps a little trepidation, how this turns out right misterskank? A little open mind can't hurt.

misterskank on
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God, if there is one, wants me to use my mind and my common sense, Chaps. My commitment to virture requires no inerrant holy book.
theguambomb on
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Isn't your common sense driven by a moral sense, maybe even stronger than a moral sense, a moral DNA? Isn't it possible then that the author of morality spoke to and through his creation to give us a guidebook to follow and pass down to generations? What if there is a God? When would be a good time to find out? Virtue is a compass, but truth is the destination. What a wonderful journey it has been getting there Bob.

 

I am glad to be back on Mindsay. I hope we can learn from each other. Above all I would like to have a relationship with you.

 

My commitment to virtue and to God requires truth not a holy book. Not any longer.

 

Hutch

misterskank on
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Perhaps human beings have indeed followed your "guidebook" and that's why we have had ceaseless anger, threats, ultimata, killings, wars, and genocides, Chaps. Your "guidebook" if full of it. : )
theguambomb on
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Blaming God's word or Christianity for the destructive decisons man has freely made "sin" isn't even a consideration. Come on stretch your mind a little here. Christianity is a small percentage of religion on this planet yet they make up 90% of teaching missionaries who give of their lives for more than evangelism, they provide more than 75% of food and medicine needed where there is none, and I could talk for hours and hours. The "guidebook" has had its share of successes and you are right, it is full of it.
misterskank on
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Your guidebook is obviously man's word, Chaps, not a god's word; it's man's early effort to conceive of a god.
theguambomb on
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Have you ever painted a scenic landscape or written a poem? Were you the creator of what inspired you or the interpreter, the messenger? God's inspired word written down and communicated by man doesn't seem that far fetched does it?

 

Time to cheer on our Minnesota Vikings and Brett Farve now Bob. Please have a safe and blessed day!

 

Chaps

misterskank on
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The belief that the Bible is the best that the all-knowing, all-powerful, supreme intelligence of the universe can produce is comical. Laughter is an appropriate response. Farve and Peterson look good; and Tiger is three holes up on Yang.
theguambomb on
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Wow what a transition!! From eternal damnation to Tiger's revenge on Yang. You got guts.

 

I watched from the fairways at the PGA at Hazeltine just 4 miles from my home and I don't think Tiger will fold like that again.

 

Took my family apple picking so I missed the 2nd half of the Vikings game.

 

Appreciate the update.

 

You know you are wrong Bob. You truly are. But then you wouldn't be much of a college professor if you believed otherwise. 

MakenZero on
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what an interesting read ^_^

 
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