I was listening to the nationally syndicated Don and Mike show yesterday afternoon when news broke than Don Imus had been fired by CBS.

First a bit of background: Don and Mike have been in radio for about three decades now -- two of them together for a bit over 20 years. They had been top earners in the Washington, DC morning radio market for quite a while, and then signed a deal to move to "afternoon drive time" on the same station which, at the time, had Howard Stern in the morning. They are heard in about 30-40 markets nationwide, and have earned top ratings in quite a few of them.  Their format is now "talk radio" with a heavy emphasis on comedy. Some would call them "shock jocks." I particularly like their show because they often go "behind the curtain" and discuss the radio industry (nationwide and in Washington, DC) in great detail.

They're certainly not fans of Don Imus. They poke fun at him all the time for being old, irrelevant and simply not funny. But they, too, feel that his words were not fire-worthy.  (Disclosure: "Don and Mike" and Don Imus are both employed by CBS Radio.) It's an extremely subjective precedent to them.  What happens now if they mock Al Sharpton on the air? Could that be deemed as racist and a fire-able offense?  What specifically is the line drawn in the sand? That hasn't ever been clear, and crossing this invisible line could mean losing one's job.

They also acknowledge that they don't know -- and will never know -- all sides of the story.  About 90% of Don and Mike listeners (and listeners of that particular station) are white. There's an "urban contemporary" station also owned by CBS radio which also garners top ratings where about 90% of the listeners are black.  The morning drive personality there, Donnie Simpson, is also pretty well known in the radio community and happens to be friends with Don and Mike.  Why not create some kind of radio summit where the listeners can have some kind of forum to talk about this once and for all?

Apparently it's in the works.  I'm interested in seeing how it turns out.

But this morning after listening to a morning show on my predominantly white station and hearing the endless calls from one particular point of view, I decided I would switch over to Donnie Simpson to see what he had to say.  I happened to catch the tail end of the news -- which was chiefly about the Imus firing. I found it interesting that the same woman who did traffic on my regular station was doing it here --- but it was a different traffic report focusing on the approaches to DC from Prince Georges County, an area which is more predominantly black.

And then I listened to music. A lot of music. You know how morning shows either have no music or a lot of banter interrupted by one or two songs at a time? This happened to be a mix of about sixteen minutes of music -- five different songs in total -- played consecutively. I got to work before I could even hear a bit of what Donnie had to say.

You know what's going to happen to Don Imus? He'll eventually get back on radio after all of this dies down.  Maybe it will be satellite radio first, but he'll be back on terrestrial radio eventually once the advertisers realize that he still has a market of folks who will listen to him and listen to their ads. That's really all it's about.

Either that or he'll die first. Lordy that man is old!
 
   

 


 
 
sandyquill on
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In the end, radio programming as about the pursuit of advertising dollars. Right now, Imus' standing is such that he will make advertisers shy away instead of buy, so he's on the outs.

But as you said, he'll be back. Because he has much to say (apparently) that people want to hear (as evidenced by his career) and advertisers will pay for it again. 

Or, as you also said, he'll pass on and the point will be moot.  And he'll be mute.

And man, do I need another cup of coffee...
patchesmom on
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I didn't think this was boring at all.  I don't listen to Imus, or other "talk show" radio as I am more of a music person, but the morning DJ's on the station I listen to also chose to have some call in opinions.  I do think he'll be back, and when he is, whether it's via satellite radio or other, he'll be laughing all the way to the bank.  Pity that society can't see how giving more weight to this than it deserves will have a reverse effect. 
justjayme on
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I think the firing was entirely too strict. Thats taking it a bit too far. I know hes done really messed up shit in the past, but the firing was entirely not right. I dont think. This is so confusing, and so...time-consuming. LOL But I just wondered...is this different than being fired at another place of employment? If I were your boss, and I heard someone call you a "dirty Jew", even if YOU didnt hear it, I would fire them. I wouldnt even hesitate. But are there different rules in an office environment I wonder? There were some good questions in your post, about where the line should be drawn. But like I was telling someone else, maybe it was WHO he said it about, someone completely undeserving. I think its different than making fun of Britney Spears. She IS a white trash ho. I mean honestly that bitch is fuckin nuts, but she put herself out there. She publicly acted like a fucktard. But these girls didnt. I dont know what specifically he said in the past about specific groups, because hes a retarded jackass and I dont listen to him, I only hear snippets every now and then. I only know enough to know that he could spontaneously combust right now and I wouldnt give it a second thought. LOL But it really is an interesting question about where the line is.
shiny on
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Devil's Advocate: What does Britney Spears's skin color have to do with it?

-- S
justjayme on
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I put that in there because that phrase doesnt carry the same weight. If I were black and said she was white trash, still wouldnt carry the same weight. And thats kind of what this whole thing is about. Racist slurs towards white people mean nothing. And thats the problem. Its NOT the same as when you make a racist comment towards a black person. It doesnt offend me because I was never made to feel like I should be ashamed of myself for being white, or made to feel as if I was "less than" by my entire country. I could call her all kindsa honkey-ass bumpkin-lovin names, wouldnt offend any white person in the least as far as being made to feel their skin color was "wrong". But if I said she was "black trash", it doesnt just mean shes a hobag. It would mean shes a hobag who is worth less than white people, because the word "black" itself has a negative connotation. Just talk to my dad, he'll tell ya. "Yeah...but shes BLACK Jayme..its not like she was white." Dont think I dont hear THAT all the time.

michellerz on
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"Lordy that man is old!"

is he older than... you, for instance? hahaha 
shiny on
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No. I'm way older. But he's in radio....

-- S
michellerz on
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and what do you call WTF radio? huh huh?
tootboy on
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boy that was boring...but i still read it till the end!

 
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