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According to the U.S. government, "poor" means that a household's income falls below a "poverty line" that was defined back in the mid-1960s. At the time of its inception, the poverty baseline measure was set at approximately three times the annual cost of a nutritionally adequate diet. It was assumed that this amount would enable a family to meet basic needs. It may have then;  it certainly doesn't now. The 2007 poverty line for a family of four, as defined by the Department of Health and Human Services, is $20,650 per year. Would this annual income realistically cover a family's basic needs?

Just to afford "fair market rent" on a small one-bedroom apartment in the Twin Cities, a wage earner must make $13.56 per hour, or $28,205 per year. For a two-bedroom apartment, the income needed to afford the rent jumps to $34,195 (Habitat for Humanity statistics).  Add to this the rising cost of fuel, health care, dental care, and education; single parent families; and loss of jobs.

It is time to approach the problem from a position other than one that says a large segment of the population "behaves like spoiled, angry children who rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave".    Profiteers are the ones who perpetuate this position.  Corporate profit should not be the driving force of America.
 
   

 


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eyesthefuture on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
This is the clearest I have ever seen this shown.
shadeofgray on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
thanks.  sort of like "liberalism"for dummies"?... where liberalism is the opposite of exploitation.
wonderingsoul on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
Amen to that.  Can I write your name in on my state's primary tomorrow?
shadeofgray on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
heh heh.  What's wrong with everyone?  Is it a virus... or something "they" put in the water?
wonderingsoul on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
*coughcough*  ya know, now that you mention it, i've been feeling a bit 'off' the past few days.  could be a virus, could be something in the water....
myclette on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
You rock!

 

You know some people really need visuals to get the point. It's a shame visuals are needed when it comes to the plight of people.

shadeofgray on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
You are right... not that I rock, but that it's a shame.
myclette on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
I'm right on both accounts.  *nods*
onewalrus on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
" Corporate profit should not be the driving force of America."

Then perhaps it's time to shift away from the capitalism we have all grown to love. As long as people continue to buy 'stuff'. More 'stuff' than they need and more 'stuff' than they can affort to pay for capitalism and corporate profit will continue to thrive. And let's not forget that an individual can incorporate.

$13.65? I can't leave the house for less that $35.00. It's not worth my time and it would end up costing me money.
shadeofgray on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
Which capitalism do you know and love?  The one that displaced and murdered native Americans for land? The one that harvested slave labor to work the land?  The one that built sweatshops and shirt factories for women to die in? The one that ran unsafe coal mines for men to be buried in? The one that dumped chemicals im our lakes and rivers? The one that closed down factories here for profit there? The one that thrives on terror and endless war?

I repeat, Corporate profit should not be the driving force of America.
onewalrus on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
Yes, that's the one.
The one where nobody is complaining about their subdivision built on old Indian land... they love their house
The one where people eat like pigs and wear comfortable cotton clothes without giving a though to the labor behind either.
The one were the industrial revolution was heralded magnificent, gave millions jobs and put food in their mouths.
The one where the TV/computer always comes on when you flip the switch due to coal fired power plants.
The one where people love to fertilize their lawns and use cleaning products and medicines.
The one that rewards union workers for non-productivity and laziness.
The one where all these things and every other have allowed for the stongest military in the world upon which all countries of the world have relied for their safety. (Unless you just want to ignore WWII.)

Tell ya what... when your strong rejection of corporate capitalism is backed up by your unplugging yourself from everything associated with it, message me back by Pony-Express.
onewalrus on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
There are so many contributing factors missing from the handy little graphic it's ridiculous. Oversimplification doesn't serve well in attempting to sort out and/or understand/solve a problem. 
shadeofgray on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
Housing is the single largest budget item for most families... which is why I used it.
onewalrus on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
Yes, but it doesn't take into account the fact that the majority of Americans live beyond their means through the use of credit. It is the mentality of entitlement to material good coupled with the sickness of immediate gratification that puts people into a whole. There has always been poverty and inequity and there always will be. Paupers and plebs have always outnumbered the rich elite, and the standard of living which we enjoy today, even with all its shortcomings, is due to all the evils of corporate capitalism which you condemn.

If you have a mortage payment, what do you think the banks do with their money to keep alive? They invest it in corporate capitalism to make profits so you can have your home loan. Would you rather they sold pencils on the street?
shadeofgray on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
I don't have a mortgage payment or credit card debt and I don't live beyond my means. I paid for my own education, which was affordable, and for the education of my children at private universities--also affordable. I never got a handout from the government nor did they. My spouse and I both worked for employers we could depend on. We received a fair wage for our work and were able to save. We worked in a different time. And we were lucky. Everyone isn't.

We find we are still afraid to enjoy the last trimester of our lives because of the uncertainty of our children's futures. Their employers have not been as dependable as ours. Their housing costs are much, much higher, as are fuel and health costs. College for their children will not be affordable. They will be paying off the debt for war for the rest of their lives.

Corporate profit should not be the driving force of America.


SaikotikGunman on
Re: Remember when our standard of living was the standard?
Then you and your familc can stop flying, driving, buying your food at chain groceries, visiting department stores, and buying/using electronics, telephones, and entertainment.

Once you do that, the corporate dominance won't be an issue in your life.

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