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This is just ridiculous.
What they might do is require home educators to take a series of courses (and pay the state of Cali for the privilege, natch) to be Home Certified or something.
Bets?
What they might do is require home educators to take a series of courses (and pay the state of Cali for the privilege, natch) to be Home Certified or something.
Bets?
I am seeing this trend everywhere !! parents have NO rights anymore when it comes to their child, not in any state. We no longer decide who educates our children , what medical doctors or medications our special child may need, what therapies ect. we no longer decide what is good disaplin or bad , we are simply told what we can and cant do , there was a time that mothers were expected to be the full care giver of the children , home cooked meals , schooling, playtime , bathtime all of it we were expected to be there but now . we as mothers are basicly told to leave our children in the care of school systems , daycares,babysittes, camps ect. yet go to youtube or google child abuse caught on tape , or google child deaths in daycare ect. the world id completely backwards . problem is no one speaks out
Well, when I homeschooled here in Florida, I found the system to be remarkably easy to work with, fortunately. But I was a certified teacher, once upon a time. Maybe that helped? I dunno.
Some of it has to do, in some small part at least, with (some) women emulating all the things the first women's rights activists deplored in men, and the villainization of the housewife and mother roles for women by the feminist movement.
Ah but the reasons behind such a ruling are the true insight into why the judge passed this. And I quote:
The 2nd Appellate Court in Los Angeles agreed with the trial court decision that had found, "keeping the children at home deprived them of situations where they could interact with people outside the family".
"There are people who could provide help if something is amiss in the children's lives, and they could develop emotionally in a broader world than the parents' 'cloistered' setting," the ruling said.
Basically all homeschoolers are abusive bastards that are incapable of allowing their kids to have friends.
Now in my case...well that was sort of true. But the truth of the matter is that lots of kids IN public school are abused and the school does nothing about it. On the same level, lots of parents are accused of this stuff that are completely innocent.
You are so very right there ! I was told them same thing when I told someone in social services that I wanted to home school my son who is Autistic , that doing so was isolating him and not allowing him to have a social life which IS NOT the case the Idaho Virtual Academy Has monthly visits where all the children in a certian area gather and go on field trips and outing so that they can socialize , Not to mention just because a child is not in a public school does not mean that they are not getting outtings with parents such as to parks and zoos and vacations , or like with my son who has Developmental therapy , Psychological Rehab. and who visits the YMCA or youth center.
Home schooling for me as well as I am sure many other parents who want to do is more about safety , and actual learning and not just in the way the states tell us they should. we want to encourage respect for others , and responsiblity as far as education and other areas of life, or for those of us with special needs kids maybe we just feel it is a more mellow relaxed situation , and further more why are home schooling parents see as abusive and bad , yet a local school here where my 8 yr old attend has the legal right to lock a child who has a noted medical contidon (mood disorder) and can have an outburst they can lock her in a closet alone and all and this is not abuse, but if a parent did that in a residence it would no doubt be abuse!?
Home schooling for me as well as I am sure many other parents who want to do is more about safety , and actual learning and not just in the way the states tell us they should. we want to encourage respect for others , and responsiblity as far as education and other areas of life, or for those of us with special needs kids maybe we just feel it is a more mellow relaxed situation , and further more why are home schooling parents see as abusive and bad , yet a local school here where my 8 yr old attend has the legal right to lock a child who has a noted medical contidon (mood disorder) and can have an outburst they can lock her in a closet alone and all and this is not abuse, but if a parent did that in a residence it would no doubt be abuse!?
Well from my own experience a once a month visit with kids is not enough. A once a week thing isn't enough either.
The problem is that for most kids, there is a need for some sort of constant contact with people outside the family. My experience [9 years of being home schooled myself] was that not only our family but the others we actually did interact with seemed to be ok with only seeing people once a week. The problem is that the parents all seemed to think that their school experience sucked, thusly the kids weren't missing out on anything. The problem is that they overrate their ability to fill in the social aspects of their kids.
On top of that, no other kids ever seemed good enough friends for their children. And of course that only cuts off one more avenue for the children. Personally I would love to home school my kids as far as education goes. But I would want my kids to have a good flow of constant contact with others. As of today, and the wide range of knowledge I possess about homeschooling, I have yet to see a home school group that fulfills this need adequately in a way that doesn't seem to center solely around school work.
It was always the fact that school came first and all else came after. Because of this mindset, most of the kids were socially stunted. And that is my worry about home school.
The problem is that for most kids, there is a need for some sort of constant contact with people outside the family. My experience [9 years of being home schooled myself] was that not only our family but the others we actually did interact with seemed to be ok with only seeing people once a week. The problem is that the parents all seemed to think that their school experience sucked, thusly the kids weren't missing out on anything. The problem is that they overrate their ability to fill in the social aspects of their kids.
On top of that, no other kids ever seemed good enough friends for their children. And of course that only cuts off one more avenue for the children. Personally I would love to home school my kids as far as education goes. But I would want my kids to have a good flow of constant contact with others. As of today, and the wide range of knowledge I possess about homeschooling, I have yet to see a home school group that fulfills this need adequately in a way that doesn't seem to center solely around school work.
It was always the fact that school came first and all else came after. Because of this mindset, most of the kids were socially stunted. And that is my worry about home school.
A friend brought this to my attention. So let me explain.
I grew up in Pennsylvania. My mother actually helped draft the bill that laid out home school law. My experience was with mothers that were the very FIRST wave of home schoolers in PA. As my friend pointed out to me, they had something to prove. And in that vein they kind of took it out on us. We would not be allowed to fail. And to that end...we were crippled as it were on the social aspect.
I suppose that has screwed up my view in certain ways because my brother and I got the constant talk of how we were the first wave. If we screwed it up we screwed it up for all home schoolers after us. So please take this into account when you read my response.
I grew up in Pennsylvania. My mother actually helped draft the bill that laid out home school law. My experience was with mothers that were the very FIRST wave of home schoolers in PA. As my friend pointed out to me, they had something to prove. And in that vein they kind of took it out on us. We would not be allowed to fail. And to that end...we were crippled as it were on the social aspect.
I suppose that has screwed up my view in certain ways because my brother and I got the constant talk of how we were the first wave. If we screwed it up we screwed it up for all home schoolers after us. So please take this into account when you read my response.
I do agree that there are parents who take the extream path either because of a religious belief or personal issues that they do not allow enough social interaction , However there should be a medium somewhere.
how in the earth can any parent NOT have a right to decide how OUR children are taught. I hate that any child would lack social interaction I do agree , but Like i said what about my son who has many many services and is out and about daily with many different people sure homeschooling him in order to help him learn and keep his safe from some things out there seeing as he cant not verbalize how he is treated. so I no longer have a right has his mother to decide that.
Someone once said that it takes a village to raise a child ( i think it was hillary ) but this has gone to far yes parents need help they need guideance ect. but my issue is when did all of our rights get stripped away and handed over to goverment officals , teachers and so on.
how in the earth can any parent NOT have a right to decide how OUR children are taught. I hate that any child would lack social interaction I do agree , but Like i said what about my son who has many many services and is out and about daily with many different people sure homeschooling him in order to help him learn and keep his safe from some things out there seeing as he cant not verbalize how he is treated. so I no longer have a right has his mother to decide that.
Someone once said that it takes a village to raise a child ( i think it was hillary ) but this has gone to far yes parents need help they need guideance ect. but my issue is when did all of our rights get stripped away and handed over to goverment officals , teachers and so on.
I was informed about this a few weeks ago when HSLDA contacted it's members to make calls in support of homeschooling in California -- unfortunately, the family this happened to weren't members of HSLDA and they didn't hear about it in time to do anything. From what I read, the judge based his decision on a case from the 1950's.
California is unfortunately an embarrassment and I'm sure the founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they knew the laws that are upheld and the rights that are violated. It's absurd.
Here in Maryland there are definite hoops one must jump through, but so far I've had an overall good experience with working with the school district homeschooling my daughter.
California is unfortunately an embarrassment and I'm sure the founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they knew the laws that are upheld and the rights that are violated. It's absurd.
Here in Maryland there are definite hoops one must jump through, but so far I've had an overall good experience with working with the school district homeschooling my daughter.
Here's the link to sign the petition to abolish this stupid ruling.
It looks to me as if the state wishes to have the monopoly on brainwashing. By making the judgement that homeschooling is unconstitutional, California is saying that only they have the right to instill their beliefs and values in the young.
While I understand the need to regulate homeschooling to a degree, this is outrageous.
The federal government should stay out of the lives of the american family, to do otherwise is twisted representation of what the government was intended to do. Sadly, fanatics of all sorts believe that their way is the only way. It is a sad day when society allows this.
Also, this is a compelling argument in regards to legislating from the bench. I would like to think that this will change with the president, but with the current crop this seems unlikely to occur.
While I understand the need to regulate homeschooling to a degree, this is outrageous.
The federal government should stay out of the lives of the american family, to do otherwise is twisted representation of what the government was intended to do. Sadly, fanatics of all sorts believe that their way is the only way. It is a sad day when society allows this.
Also, this is a compelling argument in regards to legislating from the bench. I would like to think that this will change with the president, but with the current crop this seems unlikely to occur.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1720697,00.html
The Governator has spoken. I wonder if he will actually be able to get anything done? Somehow I think that him calling his legislators "girly men" will hinder his efforts.
The Governator has spoken. I wonder if he will actually be able to get anything done? Somehow I think that him calling his legislators "girly men" will hinder his efforts.
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