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Even encouraging possibly...
Good stuff, thanks!
Good stuff, thanks!
I find it good to know that God knew what he was talking about then, and that he planned it to be for now, too. 
Absolutely!
Nothing really changes how we treat one another. We haven't really changed in our most inward parts. We've just managed to dress ourselves differently.
It could be depressing. The Bible is an old book and the culture we live in now is not the in which it was written...but...
We are still who we were when it was penned, maybe 2300 years ago and then some. Truth, in many ways, is still truth. And, to me, that is not depressing at all. It's reassuring.
You don't think we have changed? I think we have, and not for the better. We don't die of preventable diseases anymore, but we have become more brutal. Killing is done at an industrial level not seen since Roman times, and, even then, not on such a scale. I would like to believe you are right, but the Bible you quote tells me another tale.
Oh, to be sure we have grown in depravity, but I was referring specifically to the verse quoted from Proverbs in this post.
I am deeply saddened by the state of the human psyche as it is daily revealed, but at the same time I am encouraged that God's word was prepared to address it now as it was then.
I am deeply saddened by the state of the human psyche as it is daily revealed, but at the same time I am encouraged that God's word was prepared to address it now as it was then.
The scale is relative, but yes, I would agree that our species has come to reach a golden era of destruction. We destroy others, physically, emotionally, and economically, and do so often within the framework of laws supposedly in place to protect us. We destroy the land by paving it over and putting parking lots and housing developments on the best farm land in the world, that will become ever more in demand for both more food production and more living space as populations continue to grow out of control. Agent Smith in the Matrix was dead on in his diatribe against humanity:
I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.
I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.
Well, I wouldn't really trust a computer program that has to rely on algorithms to "experience" on making judgements on mankind. XD
Of course, this is all the construct of a few very intelligent members of our species.
Wow. Ok...now, you sound like one of those Club of Rome folks.
This is one particular subject I'm very familiar with.
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I'll just call it practical environmentalism for now.
I believe the factors that are stopping people having so many children have been underestimated. I have a vision that in, say, 400 years the human population will be about a sixth of what it is now. And it will be a nicer world to live in. We won't have to fight for scarce resources. We will leave less of a footprint on the ecosystem. And we will be more pleased to see one another. When we are overcrowded we think, "I wish all these people would go away." But if you haven't seen anyone for a couple of weeks, they all seem rather wonderful. People will get on better with each other.--Kate Douglas
I don't buy into that model. It sounds great, but we can'tt kill 5/6 of humanity. Correction...we can, but we shouldn't.
Let them keep building houses... they'll starve off sooner or later.
We can do both.
Only for so long.
You're so right Sandy! I voted for this earlier, but I couldn't formulate a decent reply sans coffee. Plus, my allergies are giving me H-E-double hockey sticks today. However I found this:
Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in
place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room;
they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their
food and tyrannize their teachers.
(Socrates, 5th Century BC)
I am so sorry to hear your allergies are stressing you!!! 
Socrates...there was a man with deep insight. And yep, his insights remain true today.
Socrates...there was a man with deep insight. And yep, his insights remain true today.
I think every generation says that about the one that follows, and sometimes, as in my case, we say it about the one we're a part of.
Oh, I think every generation can say it truthfully about themselves. And hopefully, some do.
The tragedy today is that so many people consider it a hardship to do without things their grandparents never heard of.
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