Must think of the answer, I must... at least for now.

Darn, sorry it took me this long to respond to this comment.  It's been a month that I haven't been able to find time to pat ya. 

I haven't been stalkin' ya.  But when you come around, I try to be first in line.

Hi CallmeRoger, Thanks for giving me a pat Boo.

It's alright, I been missing those pats too Boo.

♥ Wendy

I think not that extreme, but we should definitly get him punsihed.

are you serious?

Yea.
I'm Muslim, I don't think that's right at all.

to punish someone for expressing themself, even if that expression is offensive, is to invite oppression for all, bro.

You know what, I agree.
But I also agree with the fact that it's wrong and shouldn't be done.
I'm totally down with just being laid back and all, but something like that it's not just risque, it's just not kosher.

So what about all the antichristian propeganda that get's thrown around? Should I, as a christian, punish those that don't believe in my faith?
Nope. Love one another; even if their life doesn't agree with yours. OOOH ..someone made fun of muslims.
Big deal grow a spine and take it; life goes on.

That last line was pretty hurtful.
BUT, I have to agree once again, there is a HUGE deal of anti-christian propaganda.
I don't think that's right either.
I just think the people who do these things should know when there is a line.
Carbomb jokes, fine.
Jokes about ones prophet, in this case Muhammad, not so fine.
Do I need to explain myself further?

Here's the thing: People should have a freedom of experssion.  if it's about Jesus, Muhammad, Buddah, whatever. If people don't like it they should peacefully protest: A person shouldn't be punished because he makes a comic.
Did the last line hurt? Sorry but it is honestly the way I feel about this whole mess. Not you in particular but the everyone that is getting offended.  I guess I feel my God is strong enough to take care of himself so I dont have to riot or kill people over a bunch of antichristian propaganda...  Maybe those that believe in islam should start thinking along the same lines.

Not everyone is an extremist mind you.
I'm a follower of Islam and I do believe that my holy book, the Kuran, tells me at least some things I should follow(mind you I'm not the perfect Muslim).
Jokes about Muhammad, not a big deal.
Defacing his imae by strapping a bomb on his turban, that's a big deal.
I don't think the rioting is okay at all, I also don't think depicting him in that way was right.
Peaceful protest I 120% agree with, just some people don't understand that's how it should work.
:-/

Well I keep hearing how peaceful islam is; yet everytime something like this happens it seems the whole islamic world gets up in arms.
Remember Rushdy? (Don't know if I spelled his name right.) An author that had a price on his head...
Prove to me that most islamics are peaceful then I might be a little be easier on the subject.

I can't prove not a thing.
I can say that i'm peaceful though.

That doesn't mean anyone has the right to punish someone else for expressing themselves...

 

and even so, we're talking about people's opinions here. No one should be punished for thinking.

Not saying we can' limit opinions.
Depicting ones prophet in a horrible way is not an opinion, it's a mockery.

It's a mocking opinion.
But an opinion nothingless.
The way to deal with it isn't to kill or punish the guy..but not give credence to it at all.
Check it: If islamics just ignored the cartoons no one would have cared the least about 'em.

That's like ignoring someone shooting someone else in the face.

I second what  thearidzone said, and I will tell you something else...

 

Let's pretend this cartoonist is an athiest, and makes fun of Mohammad... do you think he gives a crap about Islam? No. Why should he care about something that he doesn't even believe in... why should he tip/toe around other people's feelings... just for doing something he thought was funny?

 

A formal apology shouldn't even have to be made. What makes Islam so much more important than any other group that's been made fun of in the history of human civilization? Perhaps every cartoonist who has ever made fun of the president should make a formal apology, or be punished, for making a mockery of the U.S. government.

 

What you're suggesting can be taken to a great extreme.... I think it's time to suck it up.

Let's pretend the cartoonist is an atheist.
Don't you think he shouldn't act like a child and give a damn about something that he makes?
I don't hate the cartoonist, nor do I believe he should burn in hell in die.
I just believe for doing something so questionably wrong he should apologize.

But he doesn't think it is questionably wrong.
You can't force someone to appologize if they don't want to; unless you use some kind of scare tactics.
And even that doesn't work all the time.

xD
Well, I know you can;t force someone to make an apology, I was just saying that's all I'd need.
Then again, I'm not every muslim on the world.
Not everyones near as nice as me.
:-/

i have to say i totally agree with you here, what the cartoonist did was horrifically insensitive and negligent in my opinion, not to mention all the other networks in other countries who chose to screen the cartoon. but the muslim groups who are rioting have taken it too far, it's ok to be offended and express that, but not to burn embassys and take lives for the sake of a cartoon.

Agreed.
100%

ok, i consider myself an atheist, that does not mean i have no respect for other religions and can be blatantly and rudely offensive towards them as this man and these networks have done. i think he should apologise, if not the the muslims then to the familys they've hurt, the people they've killed and the owners of all the property the muslims have destroyed because he was insensitive.

 

being an athiest doesn't mean you can deny every other religion and you are somehow above punishment for insulting them. it's even worse than claiming ignorance, he knew what he was doing, and i can't believe that he didn't realise it would incite anger in the muslim ppl or he's far more stupid than i thought.

 

i have to say that you're entire arguement here is founded on narrowmindedness and ignorance too.

I think that if you actually paid attention to what I was trying to say... you would realize that I wasn't trying to draw any relationship between atheism and lack of respect for other religions. My point is that he doesn't have to show respect to anyone. It doesn't matter what he believes in. We're arguing over a cartoon... something that's supposed to be a joke... people need to get over themselves. 

 

I think it would be much more fitting to ask all of the Muslims who kill other people in the name of Allah to apologize, instead some guy who drew an offensive cartoon.

you don't seem to be seeing my point either, it doesn't matter what denomination you are, that doesn't mean you can't show respect and sensitivity towards them. being of another faith or belief doesn't nullify your responsibility towards others.

 

i think you'll find that cartoons are a more powerful thing than you believe them to be. how much anti-nazi propaganda was spread by cartoons? they say something very serious under a face of humour which people are easily swayed by. i think the muslims were so offended because of the thought that that's the only way people see them and their prophet, as killing terrorist bastards, and that's not who they are.

 

in my opinion, Christianity is a far more aggressive religion, it just trys not to seem it, it says it does things for God, for the overall good of mankind. it's much more subversive and manipulative i think. thinking that all this was was some stupid cartoon without any thought behind it isn't correct at all, even if the ppl broadcasting it didn't realise.

I agree, these types of cartoons tend to have a very strong message. In this case... the notion that religions shouldn't condone violence.

 

In my mind, the fact that Mohammad was depicted in the cartoon emphasizes the sheer nonsense of religions endorsing violence, especially since Mohammad did no such thing.

 

I don't think the cartoon is offensive. It's meant to bring something to light... that many people in this world use religion as an excuse to hurt people... and that doing so is ridiculous. I understand that showing a prophet in a drawing is offensive to Muslims just outright, but if they actually think people view Islam as a violent religion then they're just plain stupid.

 

In regards to respect, sure people should respect those of other religions and backgrounds, but once again, this is a political cartoon... they're meant to be over the top. We can't be politically correct all the time.

Again, I think that's WAYYYYYY too exessive.
An apology at the least.

Hi dudetheregoesmy, Thanks for patting Boo. Hum? I don't know if a good old fashioned apology will work in this case, although loping off his head might be just a touch over the top.

 

How about a good Chinese style caning, or old fashioned flogging with a cat of nine tails?   ♥ Wendy

Uuummmmm...

No.

We should go out and just lop off the head of anyone who takes crap like that too seriously.

Hi misterghoulie, Thanks for patting Boo. Oh No, I strongly dissagree, I say off with chuckles head.

 

Off With His Head I Say!!   ♥ Wendy

Isn't that guy from like... Sweden or something? Last I heard, he wasn't in America. I'm surprised all this has lasted as long as it has. The cartoonists country can deal with them. We are already in business that had nothing to do with us, just like Vietnam. We can't please everyone. (Obviously.) But Muslim is the religion of alot of the middle east. It's surprising for the news to just show the stuff going on in Iraq. Do I smell some biased news? Perhaps...

 

It wasn't right to do, but that was the past.

 

Atheism cures religous terrorism...

Hi pdiddyandco, Thanks for patting Boo. I got no damned Idea about any of this stuff. I just posted that to see what everyone else knows/things about it all.

 

I too smell a rat in the national news; I don't trust a damned thing that those lying bastards have to say either.

 

I like you 'Atheism' thing there, but the whole world would have to be on board for it to work.

   ♥ Wendy

I read that on a bumper sticker before. It would never work, but if it did... Man. It could be really good or really bad.

Of course not! Thats completely absured. First of all, America believes in Freedom Of Speach, so why should we be so hypocritical? Second of all, the comic strip depitcts him as violent, and Muslims are offended because they say he does not promote violence, then they burn flags and kill people. Nice, real nice.

The world is getting so stupid. And saying that we should chop people's heads off is completely ignorant. If anything, it should be censored, but I don't even know if thats right. I think the firing of the editor was punishment enough.

I hate religion so much...

Hi climberchick612, thanks for patting Boo. 

 

I don't think that the American people are the ones getting all hysterical over this stuff.

 

Thanks for pointing out that 'double standard' thingy though.

 

It does seem strange that on the one hand a religion professes to be a peaceful bunch of people and then turn around and dance with glee as they run around murdering totally innocent bystanders, and just destroying other peoples property.

 

Myself, I'm not a Muslim, nor am I a highly educated person but I have enough smarts to know that if I want to start a good religious war in a neighbor hood all I have to do is insult The Grate Prophet.

 

It's really easy to jerk someones chain, and there's always a hand full of fanatical people who are willing to respond just like you've been seeing them respond.

 

Firing isn't enough in their eyes, and I don't blame them either, but I think that they should be calling for the editors heads as well, not just the cartoonists.    ♥ Wendy

They shouldn't be calling for ANYONE'S heads, saying that is completely ignorant. So if someone drew a cartoon about you, you'd kill them? Thats ridiculous, I can't even begin to explain how angry this violent ignorance makes me. I'm not saying it was right to insult another religion, but you call murder justice for a freaking scribble on a piece of paper? Does that sound fair to you?

Hi climberchick612, Thanks for patting Boo.

 

I didn't say that out of ignorance, I said it out of fairness. Shit, it's clear to me that the Senior Editors of those news papers are the actual guilty culprits here, so why shouldn't they have their heads loped off right along with that cartoonist?

 

I mean why should he get all the glory, right?

 

Shoot girl, I would be impressed if someone drew a cartoon of me, but then I'm not The Grate Prophet either, am I?

 

All of the ignorance, and violence has me slightly upset too, but not what I'd call angry.

 

Angry is a term that those head doctors use whenever their indoctrinating kids at school, after some kind of tragedy.  

 

No I didn't call that murder, actually I think that what they would call it is execution for blasphemy.

 

Now as to whether it's fair or not is not up to me to say, I mean after all it's their religion, right?

 

And who the heck am I to tell them that they can't chop off the head of an evil doer if they so chose Boo?  ♥ Wendy

Ok, lets get this thing straight. Its not a fucking evil-doer, he didn't comit any acts of violence or pose any threat of any sort, he was just expressing an opinion. You seem to want to live in a ridiculous opressive society who kills, oh wait, sorry i mean "executes" anyone who expresses a different opinion; to each his own I guess. I honestly though you were less ignorant than this, you proved me wrong by saying "I didn't say that out of ignorance, I said it out of fairness. Shit, it's clear to me that the Senior Editors of those news papers are the actual guilty culprits here, so why shouldn't they have their heads loped off right along with that cartoonist? "

Fairness??? Heads lopped off?? I honestly thought you were better than that, I seriously just lost so much respect for you.

Oh, and I think differently on this subject than you do, so go right ahead and "lop my head off" because apparently, unlike you, I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

I'm disgusted. 

Hi climberchick612, Thanks for patting Boo.

'Whoa Nelly' take a chill pill girl, and then re-read everything that I've written thus far, but read what's written = don't read anything into it.

 

I'm asking you to step back, take a deep breath, and then go over everything, starting with reading the entire post first Boo, it's just one question to the public.

 

I'm not sure but I don't believe that I have even voiced my opinion on the subject to you yet, check it out, and tell me whether or not I have.

 

I'm not entirely sure just how much respect you had for me in the first place, but I sure don't want to be loosing any of it over something as simple as this one question.

 

I'll get back to you next time I'm on OK?

   ♥ Wendy

Hi dudetheregoesmy, Thanks for patting Boo. I say off with his head! 

 

Hi misterghoulie, Thanks for patting Boo. Oh No, I strongly dissagree, I say off with chuckles head.

 

Off With His Head I Say!!   ♥ Wendy

 

I wasn't just reading in, I do my research before I make accusations. Are those enough examples for you? You made your opinion very clear, even if it wasn't directly to me, you made your point, and stayed consistant with it.

And of course I'm not going to just "relax and take a chill pill" over a subject I feel very passionately about. That was a little condescending, and I don't appreciate that.

Plus, you posed the question to start up a debate, correct? Well isn't that what I'm giving you?

Hi climberchick612, Thanks for patting Boo.

 

Damned girl! You sure have an easy chain to yank.

 

Sorry if you didn't pick up on the fact that I was  joking in those replies just because I didn't put lol or haha or j/k behind them.

 

When I had asked you to re-read what I had written, I guess I should have been more specific, and said 'what I've written to you', sorry about that.

 

As for whatever accusations you are talking about; your research was flawed, therefore your whole premise was also flawed, so I don't hold anything against you Boo.

 

Yes I did post the question, however, I didn't post it to start up a debate; I posted it to get peoples reaction to the question, and to see how people feel about it in general.     ♥ Wendy

Well then I gave you a reaction. Plus, you asked me to read what you said, and I did. You can't blame me for not assuming that everything you say is a joke. Therefore, my research was only flawed because you were saying things you didn't mean.

My chain is not "easily yanked," I was simply answering the question you posed, and then retaliated to your retaliations.

Also, what we're talking about now strayed from the main subject at hand, I already told you my opinion, so why do you keep trying to insult me? This could go on forever. So enough, let it go, "Boo".

Hi climberchick612, Thanks for patting Boo. Thanks for your reaction.

 

Make whatever excuse suits your fancy, why not just own up to the fact that you were operating under a flawed premise, and accept responsibility for your error? I would.

 

I beg to differ with you on the chain yanking business, you are just way too easy Boo.

 

Hum? Are you this confrontational with everyone that you comment too if they do not share your exact same view?

 

'Retaliated to my retaliations' <-- sounds wicked Boo, shoot all I did was reply to a comment that you left, then you replied to that ect., ect. till the present.

 

I do not feel as though we have strawed from the subject at hand, as there are many facets to the subject, however if that is your feeling, then I respect it Boo.

 

Now, may I ask, "What gives you cause to feel as though I am trying to insult you?"

 

As far as it 'being enough' or 'letting it go', that's cool with me, but that means that you have to stop replying to my replies, because I always reply to comments left on my blog, or on other peoples blogs whenever someone uses my reply feature from someone else's blog, know what I mean Vern?

 

Lastly, do you find my use of the term 'Boo' to be offensive whenever I'm addressing you?   ♥ Wendy

About the owning up thing, I only "operated behind a flawed premise" because you gave me false information. Just like I said before, don't contradict yourself, and if you do, don't blame others for quoting you, cuz thats all I did.

About the retaliating thing: "replied to your replies" thats what a retaliation is. A reply to what someone else said that disagrees with what you were saying, or that you disagree with. So you just reworded what I said while trying to give it new meaning. Reply, retaliation, same thing in this circumstance.

I also feel as if you are trying to insult me because we have completely strayed from the matter at hand. We've stopped talking about the Muslim Comic, and all we are doing now is justifying what we said in the first few replies, while trying to prove other points unvalid. And I don't find Boo offensive, just overused.

So clearly you're not going to stop trying to justify yourself, even though we are most likely the only ones reading this, so I'm going to stop, because as much as I do care about the original issue we started with, I don't care about mindless bickering.