
cause any kids who has asthma like mine can not take the flu mist up the nose.. live virus+ asthma=BAD... plus i dont like the idea of a new shot which in other countries people are having major reactions too and dieing
but its didnt stop the nurse but talking back to me since I wouldnt let him get the shot ..
fuckers!
A word of advice here Boo, get your doctor to give you a written document stating that your son IS NOT to be given ANY shots because they could be life threatening.
I would also start getting "Allergic to eggs" put in ALL of his medical records too Boo.
Don't argue with any of the medical people that are trying to push that flu shot Boo, just tell them that you don't mine if they want to take UNTESTED and UNPROVEN EXPERIMENTAL drugs but that you aren't that stupid.
Get your research going now girl, there are several options open to you to keep your kid from having to take shots of almost any kind.
♥ Wendy
Isn't that what I've been saying for months?
Why all the hubbub??!!
Not unlike Bird Flu - it's a non-event!!!
True, both of us have been saying that for some time now. All of the hubbub is to keep you from seeing that the powers that be are getting all of their ducks in a row and trying to make you think that everything they are about to do to you IS LEGAL.
As for the H1N1 Avian Flu..., no one seems to remember that that is THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC that our illustrious leader, of days gone by, Bush The Younger, can be quoted as having said; "It's not IF a pandemic is coming, it's WHEN".
♥ Wendy
Even if he tried, americans are armed and would probably try to fight back if it got to bad, and if it really came down to it and the experiment went terribly wrong, I think the world combined could easily defeat the american military if it had to... maybe china alone would be enough, dunno
You seem to forget several things...
The Patriot Act
The Military Commissions Act
The Continuation of Government Plan
Power, has already been siezed!
About the only thing preventing a complete overthrow of the government,
are the 240,000,000+ firearms of 6,000,000+ gun owners of America.
buuuut
From this angle, it looks to me like everyone gets paranoid about him over the fact he's either left wing or not as right wing as republicans feel comfortable with. It looks like people are using these laws to build a case against him as wanting to become a tyranical dictator. But there could be other reasons why he brought those laws in place, if it was him who introduced all of them, and if he actually plans on using them. And we can't ignore what moves other presidents from other political standings may've made either.
I look at the guy, and think "why would he want to?" - he doesn't give off vibes of hate, or power lust, infact he won polularity by being the opposite. He always seems quite collected when I've seen him. I think his political moves are merely what he believes to be right and in his efforts to try to fix things or make society fairer, and we can talk about that.
The Jews in Germany were armed until Hitler instituted the modern world's first firearms registration and confiscation programs.
And yea, in that case the disarmourment was because he had an alteriour motive, but us brits are disarmed, and there are benefits to it - I know that as long as I can keep my distance from criminals I'll generally be okay - so your country could do things like that for good reasons, without it being part of a plan to copy hitler
Here, it's a lot more difficult. I wouldn't even know where you'd start, and most criminals here are individuals or small time gangs, they wouldn't bother to go to much effort to find out or draw attention to themselves
And I can kill just as easily with a knife as a gun if that killing is premeditated. In fact, since knives are less bulky, and ubiquitous in civilization, it's far easier to pull that off than to surprise someone with a gun. On the other hand, in a case of self-defense, where I could be taken by surprise, I'd prefer a handgun or shotgun, simply because it would allow me to find cover and distance to my advantage, possibly allowing me to get away by covering my own retreat. A knife is silent, covert, and visually intimidating. That's the weapon of a killer. A firearm is a weapon of the people. For good reason, we have a saying here in America, "God made all men; Sam Colt made all men equal." Frankly, I prefer to have more than one of each on hand at any given time, the former with a sharp blade, and the latter with plenty of hollow point ammunition.
Because you probably know how to use them, that's why you could do it just as well, and you're right, just as likely if it is seriously premeditated.
But a lot of domestics aren't, people do things in the heat of the moment, they're usually just civilians high on emotion with hardly any knowledge of how to wield a weapon and they take whatever comes to hand... when they're caught up in anger they'd be lucky to even hit the right bit. It's the heat of the moment ones I'd like to stop - and the school shootings
Yea, it makes sense what you say - knives make good planned silent assassin kills where close range is an advantage, guns give you range. More than one of each?!!! I'd be scared of it going off in my pocket or something lol. Also random point - I think some knives are illegal here, but I don't know what types, and whether you could carry something like a kitchen knife on the streets I have no idea.
School shootings like Columbine are very premeditated. They have very little in common with domestic violence.
If you're smart, you don't put a gun in your pocket, that's what holsters are for, and proper handling prevents stuff like that from happening. Every properly maintained gun is safe if handled properly. Around here, it's not uncommon at all to see guns around. Neighbor has a bench and targets setup in the pasture out to seven hundred yards for shooting. I keep a rifle and a box of ammo in my farm truck all the time. My grandfather always carried a rifle or shotgun on the tractor with him when my mom was kid, and if some kind of game would get spooked while they were working in the field, he'd bag it for supper.
And yes, Londan at least, and possibly all of England, has stricter regulation of knives than parts of my country do guns.
They are premeditated... but also opportunistic on the kid finding the parent's gun (that's the only thing it has in common with domestic stuff, because sometimes that can be opportunistic). If they were determined, they could find another gun anyway, but it'd be harder if guns were less available, and a kid probably wouldn't get as far or create the same terror on a knife spree.
Good advice, with what you know, it's probably far safer in your hands than most peoples
yea, as far as I know I think it applies all over, even in scotland + wales + stuff, london has congestion charges, but that's the only difference I think
In any case, banning things like guns, alcohol, or anything else doesn't address the real problem. It's like seeing that your house needs painted, and a new roof, and other maintenance type things, and instead of affecting the repairs, you set up a tent in the back yard, or move into another place. It doesn't fix the cause of the problem, it just obfuscates some other social problem that will manifest itself in some new, unexpected place. I'm sure no one expected prohibition of alcohol here to create the opportunity for thugs like Al Capone to amass money and power and cause countless murders. If they'd know the cost of banning alcohol ahead of time, or how ineffective it was going to be, they'd never have done it in the first place.
Very true, I think that's what society's lost - it doesn't try to address deeper problems anymore, it just wants things to look good on paper. If people didn't feel like they had to drink, do drugs, or school shoot, if we could deal with the emotional things behind it rather than leaving it to them to control and sort out (control is what everyone's expected to do, it's like taboo just to express bad emotions)
Society as it is has become too dangerous to be trusted with those sorts of things, I think... we do need to sort out the issues but all the time they have an ability to do a lot of damage, in a messed up mindstate, they're dangerous to themselves and others, it'd be like leaving a knife on a table near suicidals and schizophrenics... I think the general public itself has developed more mental issues than is recognised, with things like paranoia becoming almost socially acceptable/expected that these people aren't filtered out
-People are living longer, which gives the brain more time to develop internal faults.
-Instantaneous global communications have created a place for people with problems to indulge in their perverse and altered world views, often joining with others, and reinforcing their delusions to the point that they no longer question their own sanity, and instead question that of the rest of society. Once their disparity has been written off as being fine, and the world as having the problem, then they're more likely to act in a malicious way toward others.
-Psychiatric treatment and medication have helped many people in recent generations to cope. Those people, in earlier times, would have likely been cast out from society, or ended their lives before breeding and passing on their faulty genes. Now, since more mentally damaged people are alive, they have more children, who are more susceptible to having the same or other mental problems. It will continue to get worse.
- I don't think talking about damage (i.e. pain, etc) spreads the problems... but I think things like hate and paranoia can be spread (to people who haven't yet developed an immunity). In terms of problems I think talking actually helps them figure it out, I reckon the internet is a good thing in breaking isolation because before society was set in it's ways anyway - now people are challeneging views, like you say, but there's nothing saying that the way society was was right in the first place. The internet allows them to fight their cause without taking it to physical lengths
- It's right what you say, that these people are being kept alive... but I think anyone under the right circumstances can be damaged or hurt, I don't think it's strictly genetic. Because also then you get into the realms of blaming the pain on them and eugenics, and I believe a lot of the blame lies with the destructive people who cause the pain - they have mental problems if they feel the need to do that, and it doesn't actually make them stronger, it just undermines others - and I think without those people around, people wouldn't get damaged in the first place. I may've said before, but I believe the pain need not exist.
But, like any other disease, mental imbalances(including real clinical depression) are often either triggered by genetic factors, or facilitated by genetic predisposition.
People with paranoia and schizophrenia related disorders are more likely than ever to latch onto one another and propagate their delusions thanks to modern global communications. Do I think that anything can be done about that? Possibly. Should anything be done about it? Absolutely not, because it would give regulatory and mental health authorities too much free play to infringe upon individual expression. Any powers that could combat such a problem with truly deranged or unwell individuals would be far too easy to abuse.
Anyone can become damaged through the course of life, that is true. In fact, the wisdom of aging is a direct result of the accumulated damage that we accumulate. I believe that pain must exist for the human psyche to properly develop, in much the same way that the oyster must be irritated for the pearl to form. Wisdom is knowledge tempered with pain.
Chemicals may be a factor, and yep, they may be genetically determined, but you have to admit - environment is incredibly powerful. A lot of people can be damaged or healed from damage, depending on the environment. Genetics and chemicals (and their past) set the gearing, we decide how to drive them.
Yea, and their problems kinda combine into one that society has to face and deal with. You're thinking a crackdown I think, using power - because power can be abused... I think it's like we were saying with guns - restricting people and taking power out of their hands can restrain them short term, but we need to deal with deeper rooted social problems to work longer term... I think in addition (or whatever we do) we need to talk with these confused people and help them figure things out, make them want to co-operate. We have to face up to their problems, in order to figure out a solution.
Agreed... I think wisdom is an answer to the pain. Developing wisdom is the attempt to find a solution. People change themselves as an answer to the pain they've experienced. People want to use it to change the world and provide opportunities to their children to prevent the same type of pain they've had. Without a concept of pain, people won't understand - and while there still is pain and damage in the world, we need understanding. Times are still too dark for people to live happy lives, but I hope everyone will pull towards a better level at least.
I was just reading along, enjoying the discourse between you too when this --> As for cocaine, it was once completely legal in this country, and was only banned because they were afraid that it made negroes violent and cause them to rape white women. <-- caught my attention. Would you have a link where I can read up on that statement Boo?
Reason for my query is that some time back I was reading about how William Randolph Hearst had conspired with several members of Congress, through the use of his newspapers, and editorial staff, to get laws passed outlawing Hemp and the use of Marijuana in the United States.
Supposedly because it made "Mexicans" drug crazed rapists of white women.
Needless to say no one bothered pointing out Hearst's hatred of Pancho Villa, at that time, for nationalizing Mexico's forests and for snatching away access to millions of acres of prime timber from him.
Nor did anyone seem to care about the obscene amount of profit that the DuPont family, who were very close friends of Hearst, along with several other big name families stood to make once those laws were passed..., or lose if those laws weren't enacted back then.
♥ Wendy
Thanks for the reference, I don't do libraries. Too many cameras, and too many nosy people peeking to see what you're reading where I'm at Boo.
Maybe I can find a web link to some of the crap that Hearst published about it back then.
♥ Wendy
Sorry about not getting to this sooner.
It isn't that fucking KENYAN who wants to kill Americans personally, it is the group of sorry assed mother fuckers who are lurking in the shadows and who actually control almost all of the worlds governments from behind the scenes.
Read the Georgia Guide Stones, those tablets were erected something like right at a hundred years ago and pretty well lay out what those stealthy bastards are planning for the world.
Most people around the world don't realize that The President of The United States can't even go take a shit without one of those elite bastards saying that it is OK.
And if he goes against their wishes..., they kill him off and get someone else who is willing to advance their cause to take his place.
It's called The New World Order and their end objective is total world domination. And those mother fuckers have been constantly striving to attain that goal for at least the past two hundred years, probably longer.
♥ Wendy
I have plenty to do anyway and plenty waiting from others, if it comes it comes I've heard vaguely of the NWO but haven't gathered much - is it a definite that they still exist and hold that power? - And how did they rise to power? Also... why do they try to remain secretive if they have so much power that it wouldn't matter even if they were discovered? - Because if we found out, we wouldn't be able to stand up against them, and it's only by coming out of the shadows that they can command authority over individuals. I've never understood why power lust exists, but I know that it does.
Also... it must be possible to infiltrate their ranks because they have to have some method of recruitment, which would involve breaking secrecy occasionally, I'd bet government spies would be watching them back, or killing them off
Google up New World Order, and One World Government, and just start reading at a point of your choosing Boo.
Here, "This" sight might have meaning to you as it mentions, and has links to some stuff, in the UK that you might already be familiar with.
As for why they wish to remain hidden..., is it not way easier, and way safer for the deceiver, to deceive the masses while standing in the the shadows than while standing in the bright light of truth?
They HAVE been found out and more and more serfs are beginning to open their eyes and stand up against those bastards.
As for a s commanding authority goes, those bastards already command so much authority, through world leaders, that it is going to take a world wide, armed uprising to dethrone their elitist asses.
They know that's going to happen too so to protect themselves they operate through "elected" officials, who by the way are the ones that are going to take the brunt of the peoples wrath when the shit hits the fan.
Lust in itself is one of the big sins warned about in the Black Book.
Several of their organizations have been infiltrated..., not by any government though because those fuckers are all controlled by the powers that be and don't give a damn about humanity, but by private citizens who are trying to stop those fuckers from accomplishing their goal of world domination, or at least slow them down a bit. slow those fuckers down.
Check out that link and remember that "Google" is your friend Boo.
♥ Wendy
You've tossed out some pretty good points there but as hard as it is to believe, there are a whole gang of people walking this earth who are just pure, outright evil. And no amount of talking, or praying, is going to change them. It's in their souls.
I'm not a "Bible Thump-er" but if you read the book of Revelations and compare it with what's going on in this world it will scare you. There is something heading our way and it's just around the corner.
The people in positions of power, both Governmental and Religious, know what it is, know that it's coming, and are keeping it secret..., supposedly so as not to distress the citizenry of this planet.
Did you know that several years ago the Vatican built a Celestial Observatory, and put a humongous telescope in it, on a mountain top, and have kept it aimed at a part of space where all of the worlds leading astronomers say that NOTHING is likely to be seen?
Humm...? Why would they do that Boo? Could it be that they already know "When" Jesus is supposed to be coming back this way, and the direction that he'll be coming from?
Or is it because they know that "Planet X", a planet they say does not exist, is gonna be coming from that direction and they want enough warning to be able to dive in their bunkers before it gets here?
Who knows? It's something to ponder though.
♥ Wendy
My theory is Jesus will reincarnate. But nobody will believe he is Jesus. He will be a good person and influence people through the power of good, people's love for him will contest authoritarian power and their loyalties will be tested. I don't know what the vatican is looking for, but they take the bible literally so I wouldn't be surprised if where they choose to focus is purely belief based. Revelations may've known something if there was a way of predicting the future - but if so, then God must've known whatever's going to happen is going to happen, maybe as part of his plan, so you'd expect he would make sure things worked out okay in the end. As long as you live a good life, then even death is nothing to fear, just live as good life as you can
Not only is it possible that outright evil souls exist, it's factual Boo.
I mean it's hard to comprehend but there are Ancients walking this planet who were physically here before the time of Christ. Most of them are fallen angels, but some of them aren't.
According to the black book Jesus kind of cursed the Roman Centurion, that had slapped his face, to eternal life when he said "I'll see you here when I return" or some other words to that effect.
And if I'm right it was John that Jesus granted his wish "To tarry here until my return". Man that's a long life.
I go for what the black book says about Jesus coming back. A FALSE Jesus will come first and kind of have to prove himself by doing seemingly miraculous things from one place to another, then being shot or smacked in the head to the point where NO mortal could survive the wound and then recovering over night.
But when the real dude comes no one will have any doubt that he is King and the entire planet will know it all at once too. --> Revelations may've known something if there was a way of predicting the future <-- it wasn't a prediction, it was a revelation of things that were going to come to pass. --> you'd expect he would make sure things worked out okay in the end. <-- that's why the book says "unless the days be shortened, no flesh shall survive" or something close to that.
Oh well so much for religion. In my opinion ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS ARE PURE EVIL.
♥ Wendy
Miricles/ a light and sound show seem to be what set-in-their ways christians would seem to expect from their idea of Jesus - maybe why as you say a false christ would put on a show. I think it'd be the elements of good within people that'd recongnise the real Jesus just as good people can identify good in other people, so I think if Jesus comes, whether people recognise him/ whether they side for or against him would depend on the good/bad in themselves.
I agree, organised religions have no right in my view to represent God. I am antiauthoritarian and I don't like the structure or hierarchy that organised religions have, I think everyone should develop their own theories based on what they feel inside (because God's supposed to come from within anyway so I trust my own feelings over a book that may've been outdated or taken out of context anyway). I think the authoritarian nature of organised religions is a way for darker people to enforce authority, and I think when the bible's taken literally, and too black and white, people lose sight of the general principles behind the stories, and believe analogies are factual, and worship symbolism, and get too afraid for themselves and try to bend it to their own personal gain (i.e. of heaven).
But I am open to the idea of a God(s) existing, but I think things are not quite like they're painted
Glad we agree on the religion thingy, shit, you'd be surprised at how many people throw rocks at me for saying that ALL organized religion is evil and the work of the Devil.
I mean I have yet to come across anything in the black book where God said "You better be Catholic or you're going to hell."
Did you know that the "Roman" Catholic Church was founded by the Holy Roman Empire, some three hundred or so years after that dude walked on water, as a means of combating Christianity?
♥ Wendy
I wouldn't be surprised if it was founded for that, probably for political reasons, like Henry VIII founded the church of england simply because the pope wouldn't let him remarry
No shit, the Romans fed Christians to Lions for three hundred plus years until they finally realized that there were so many of them that they couldn't get rid of them like that.
Then they decided to use the "If you can't beat em join em" approach and decimate them from the inside out.
So I've heard Boo, and didn't Ole Henry also set his Crown above the church, and make it illegal to have any other religion in the UK?
♥ Wendy
And yea, dunno why he enforced religion, but I know Henry kept changing his mind as to whether he was catholic or protestant, especially if one of the factions pissed him off, and kept having people excecuted for being the wrong one, they had hiding places in their houses and they didn't know what religion to claim to be
I know he raided the catholic churches too for their gold
--> hmmmm, I wonder why they wanted to destroy/corrupt christianity? <-- For the same reason they killed off the Christ Boo.
I mean they just couldn't have mortal men walking around healing the sick, raising the dead, showing their brethren that they didn't need a Priests help to get into heaven nor a Governor to run their daily lives AND teaching their followers how to do it too, now could they?
As for the other religious stuff, he was showing, and I believe that he had also stated the same thing..., though it could have been some other dude, that the Pope and his church were both subject to the King.
♥ Wendy
Makes sense with the autocratic nature of the darker side to humanity That being so, our next problem is why they want that power; that underpins it all. If you make people realise there's no sense in being powerhungry, the whole thing collapses like a house of cards - you could wipe out any nwo/authority problem as quickly as you could connect to these people. Here I feel we have a solution coming.
I think it's some sort of insecurity. Each person will have thier own root problem - heal that I reckon and there's nothing to support their authrotarianism.
Power hungry people will never change Boo, they are borne feeling as though it is their God given right to rule.
Hey Boo, why did you delete my comments on your black mail post?
♥ Wendy
Sorry I deleted, didn't want my gf at the time to see something
I agree and disagree with declaring this a national emergency. I agree because the flu is in its infant stages and 'may' get worse. I also disagree with it because this could end up being like the SARS incident and be nothing. Scaring the hell out of people is never the way to go when it comes to alerting the American public about a possible pandemic. That just seems to be the only way we learn or pay attention to things unfortunately
If it's a case of just scaring the hell out of us then he's doing nothing different than Bush did with the Kindergarten color coded terror charts
As far as the vaccine, my ass ain't getting it. Its too new, untested and released too fast for my liking. I have a friend who gets his yearly flu shot and he gets sick for 3 weeks after the injection. At least the flu shot lives up to its name.....it gives you the flu lol. But like they say the money's in the research, not the cure.
Look folks its easy not to get the flu: cover your damn mouth when you sneeze, wash your hands, keep good hygiene, and avoid extremely crowed areas during the holidays. Not too difficult mainstream America. Hell we have enough cleaning and personal hygiene products in stores these days so no excuses lol.
One more thing.........why do sick people always have to be stupid and leave their homes to infect the rest of us healthy people? Stay home and invest in Campbell's chicken soup! haha
OK as this is like the third time I am trying to reply to this comment I am starting to believe that the Gods of the Blog realm are against me doing so. Twice I tried and twice I lost it all. So I'll make this one short.
I agree with you on that color coded shit being a fucking joke, I never did pay any attention to that shit though... I mean --> CODE ORANGE...! A MILE WIDE ROCK IS HURDLING THROUGH SPACE<-- makes more sense than the shit they put up.
I don't take shots period, BUT I'll lie like a fucking dog and swear that I got my flu shot at a clinic in Texas when I visited my cousin in Huston.
True that, about the money being in "Research" and NOT in a cure. The American public would be astounded to find out just how many cures there are, for lots of diseases, that the major pharmaceutical companies are with holding from the people of the world, for no other reason than profit.
♥ Wendy
I bet the cure for AIDS, cancer, male pattern baldness, the common cold etc but what fun commercials and controversial issue could we bring up or discriminate people with if these things are gone?
Pharmaceutical companies suck....almost as much as the insurance industry. But thats me.
That ain't no joke, I mean it's a major brass ball sucker when you really take your time to write up a good reply only to lose it to the intergalactic bit bucket because mindsay's servers had a nervous break down and declared that an internal error had occurred and you lose it all.
AIDS..., you're kidding right? Shit those suckers had the cure for that way before they ever released it on the world population.
As for controversial issues go..., there will always be Religion and Politics for us to throw racks at each other over.
And speaking of Jews Boo..., did you know that the Israelis had a FILM crew in NYC, on 9-11, to document the destruction of the twin towers?
♥ Wendy
Don't let it make you feel bad Boo, most people have bought into the lie that he was American.
I mean why else would he seal ALL of his school records, PASSPORT records, medical records, ect..., ect...? Why to prove that he's a natural born American of course Boo.
♥ Wendy

