I'm in no right mind to think straight at the moment about what you said but am playful. You said "resistance is futile" - I modify that to "Existence is futile!" lol
And while I'm at it, 'courtesy killed the cat!' lol  - that was said by a friend of mine, who also said his motorbike was very "economically friendly"
Also I'd like to keep an eye on developments your end - can I add you plz?

Most  certainly...add away!

I live in the bible belt and let me tell you those "borg" (Biblical, Odious,Religous Guys) can drive you nuts! In the south "existence is furtile"!

Sorry it took awhile! (I totally forgot lol)
I saw that you talked to, but recently clashed with dox, who's on your network and seems to have been visiting the same blogs as I do. You probably don't want to get involved but I'll let you know there is tension to warn you about her (I talked to her for about a year)- Unlike dawn or bonnie I have a lot of bad feeling from the past and my latest blog entry was intended for dox, who didn't care to visit - that's why I haven't moved it for ages - I thought visiting her blog today might promt her to look. She's harder headed than the others and takes things badly, she wants to suffer and be dominated - all to try to fulfil a fantasy - she even wrote a poem in 2006 about rape and unsuccesfully encouraged her ex (feelnuninspired  to kidnap someone to rape. She's a freeloader with no intention to work and who gets angry when her parents ask for things and won't willingly do anything she herself doesn't want to do, but yet still thinks she's some sort of prize because of the neverending stream of lonely guys who don't know any better. It annoyed me also how she assumes things about people. I don't expect you to draw conclusions from only hearing one side, see for yourself. She needs to suffer to understand, and to deserve help.

She was angry that I was saying things that didn't coincide with the bible, and that I tried to encourage her to at least think about things - because she was affecting other people's lives too - like she turned down a job because she thought God would offer her something better and look after her (she thinks God has responsability to her) - to her dad's dismay despite him being christian too, and if she ever has children, you know how they'll be affected, and get their hopes up only to crash when God don't answer. She eventually emailed me an ultimatem to stop talking about religion, or just not talk again... I didn't credit it with an answer, because I got a feeling of an unhidable arrogant undertone that she thought she was always right, and that was a predecided conclusion. I thought "screw you". I stopped even trying. If she had learnt she could prove herself, but I'd keep her well, well, at arms length till I see it with my own eyes - and it'll take a long time before I'd really trust her, because there's a lot of evidence I want to see first.

Yeah I know what you mean. I wanted to be her friend because she seemed so sad and I really felt sorry for her identity crisis. But the more I listened to her writings the more I saw her as self centered with an incessant need for attention.
I'm not sure she has a real fixation with death and dark things, I think it's just another cry for attention like my spoiled great grandson. He does anything to get you to notice him . But hell, he's 4 and he's getting better. Dox seems bi-polar.
She got mad at me because I was truthful with her. I don't have time no the inclination to play games but I'll help anybody who is willing to help them selves.
Hope your having a great day...it's beautiful here!

Thankyou - for that even though I (and I must admit it) lost my composure a bit (anger does that I guess)- that you stayed good with me! I usually try to be more balanced, but... well I dunno... but anyway I suppose mission accomplished in preparing you. Also looking at it she is apparantly doing some work now, in typing something for someone - that's positive I guess. p.s. blimey! - great gran already?!!!

She used to be known as xhermiexloverx (deleted), and I originally found her because she tagged suicide and that was one of the things I was watching (I originally created this account just after hearing about the bebo suicides with the intention of trying to help the suicidal - thinking that in their desperate grasp for hope they'd be more willing to consider the ideas that I found useful myself and that I thought would be good if they spread - but I didn't bank on how they don't always see why I'm saying it, and some were for attention). Dox likes to be entertained - but that's hard to constantly do when you run out of ideas! lol - in return you get... company, but it was always really one way... and I'm better off I think not needing it.

She doesn't take critiscism - but I don't care! lol And I think you're right that it could be an attention thing - that's typical of when you see a lot of contradictions in what they want and feel with no apparant urge to straighen them out... and also when support is more important than solutions.... but it'll just go on forever like that without a solution! If anyone truely wants a solution and are willing to take honesty, that's a sign of deserving it I think - so you're right to want to help anyone who's serious - unfortunately the chance doesn't happen enough! Also the intentions a person accepts/notices reflects what they deserve to see I think.

btw before mindsay I used to be a regular commenter on an atheist blog called stupidevilbastard.com - under the same name bahamat - I was known for trying to reason with trolls to spread my philosophy (which was damn hard because they were determined to fight) and also for questioning the fundamentals of physics - and (as an agnostic) for fighting both atheists and believers to get both to be openminded about 'possibilities'. - But there people didn't understand what I was trying to do really... eventually not many would talk, because I had a different agenda lol. It was good practise certainly. The host seems more relaxed now - I think his understandable anger toward christians used to make him... not at peace. He used to be a priest but I don't know what happened.

so peace of mind on a certain thing is earned, perhaps

Yeah...these kids who are on here who are "cutters" really pull my heart strings. My grandson was a cutter but is doing better now but it took time in a hospital with therapy.But dox...she doesn't want help...just attention.
I am a humanist as I said  (which basically is an atheist with the belief in human responsibility.)
I was Christian for most of my life even a card carrying minister for a while. I still like to listen to others peoples thoughts on spirituality as long as it doesn't involve the bible.  I'll fight scripture to scripture all day but in the end see it as stupid because the bible is in no way , shape or form the "word of God". I had no doubts about that after spending a few years studying with the Jews in a local synagogue. It's a bit of history , mixed with fable and fantasy thrown together with ancient religions. But I keep a door open...not good to be closed minded...you might miss something!

As an unrelated side point while we're talking about it, when it is genuine (and it can be hard to tell), I've noticed that cutting can happen sometimes when there's no other way of venting too - like if they're the type who feels unable to express anger or doesn't want to take it out on anyone else or blame anyone else - or who blames themself when other people push them, or when they're afraid of letting it out - in some ways it's a cry for help - so it's a shame when there's anger, because it's kinda saying "something's wrong" but society almost tells us that expressing negative isn't acceptable - though I do want to eliminate the negative (sounds like a contradiction lol - but I think I guess it needs to be in the open to deal with, once and for all, so that then it can be eliminated in their minds - deep down, rather than just on the surface of what they say). I don't fully understand why cutting is a release, but it may be symbolic and a way of expressing.

That's a good way to be - openminded to get what you can that may be an interesting/useful point of view or analogy from other perspectives - I sometimes see a mindstate that's new or I like or I may find helpful and experiment with it! I am against any authoritarian source - like any scripture - which uses force and only cites itself... I hate authoritarianism itself, in my mind it has no right to exist, and no right to any power - there's no reason any being has any right to command any other I think.

As far as I'm concerned god(s) might exist (and I think of them as being like people), and other beings might too, or might not - I just don't know yet, but I'll hopefully stick by my principles first before them - if they are with me they're welcome allies, if not, tough! lol - I know that in life I can certainly be this free and make a mark without being stopped, so even if I got hell afterward (if they weren't reasonable), the whole thing would be worth it if I could start something. If other beings do exist, perhaps they don't have the power to interact with the living - since I'da thought that dead relatives would certainly want to - if there was a bigger reason for them not to I can't imagine what it'd be.

There are some seemingly unexplained things in physics, like why the speed of light is what it is, and why the laws exist as they are and don't change - but god theory also has the same problem of "who made him?" lol, and why s/he exists, as what they are, and not more of them or someone else, or at a different time - I don't accept that anything has always existed, because if infinity is undefinable, then nothing can exist at infinity - every spatial/time dimension we exist in is a coordinate defining where we are in space and time - it's easier to say maybe that maybe god/dead people cease to exist in most/all the dimensions we do - so they can't be defined, which could be why they don't appear in space or time, and as undefinable people mistake it for infinity. But for them to exist at all we may all (living and dead) exist in other imaginary dimensions too - like they could exist in memory, or just history - their story trapped in time, but as part of past always there

oh and by the way this is for you, it's well intentioned I'm sure. She's a xian, and a hard one, but not evil or anything

Yeah...I read all of Bonnie post and replys when the came out (my poem was better ) I didn't comment because she was so proud of herself...didn't want to burst her bubble.

I'm not an xtian hater...hell, I used to be one myself. I do have trouble with them pushing their stuff off on the rest of us though.

God is fnord.

That is all!

Ok...you made me look...look it up that is! Hell, I thought you made a typo!LOLL!

Nah, fnord is all!

That's what's up.