That is really, really good! It's kind of sad. Brings back old memories of being a kid and learning the truth too. You write very well. I really enjoyed reading this poem! 

Hummm....it is sad isn't it. I don't know why parents have to lie to their children.

Thanks for the reply...hope you having a great day!

You too! 

I BELIEVE

I think it is sad, and yes its so true
That when your parents start lying to you
That one lie leads to so many more
And mistrust comes walking in at the door
"What do I believe, which word is true?
How, Mom and Dad, can I believe you?"
If a parent's consistent, the child will believe
All that they say and will also perceive
That when they say that Christ was born
In an animal's stable, so forlorn
That this king was willing to live as a man
Showing us that we also can
Live in this world but not be as such
That living His way is better by much
Yes, we can have the peace he will bring
In a chaotic world, passing understanding
When you choose to let him be Lord of your life
You will still have trouble but never have strife
For there will be no double mindedness
Just the joy he gives, and no stress
Because with Him you can do anything
He will fight for you, He's the Lord of the ring!

So, when everything to Him you've surrendered
Made him your Lord, and you have remembered
That yes;  in this world we will have trials
But that with them all he gives us a smile
He gives us faith, helps us to cope
Put in him our trust, our love and our hope
He banishes fear, prepares us a place
And when life is done, we'll see His face
Shining on us, He'll say "Well done
See? It was worth it to believe in my Son
Come into the place, afresh and anew
Here in the mansion, I've got just for you."

bonniegirl March 5, 2009

Nice reply bonniegirlgirl...really enjoyed the fact you replied in rhyme...cool!

Of course, I disagree with you. I was Christian 34 years but have found the evidence to be much more against than in favor.

I believe Jesus was probably a great, spiritual man...but not god nor any more the son of god than you or I are. He never claimed to be god. But the jews desperatly needed messiah to come. Judaism was falling apart and selling out to the highest bidder. So Jesus the messiah was created "after" he died...not during his life time. Much easier to pass of that way...it was all hearsay.

But thats what I think and you have your own thoughts......and we may possibly both be wrong.

But , I do think if Christian parents want their kids to grow up and believe, they best be careful what they teach them when their young...it can backfire.

Thank you once again for your very "thoughtful" reply! Good luck in your journey!Peace. 

And blessings to you; unfortunately it seems that you don't believe in the Holy Bible, in which he definitely declared that when you saw him, you saw the father, and it says God was manifest in the flesh, which could only have been in the body of Christ. But of course, since you do not see the Bible as a guidebook and the infallible word of God, there is no basis for argument.
Furthermore, I know he is God because I feel him in my and giving me peace every day I live..and just as his word also states: when I try to do things on my own and in my own strength, I fail miserably...perhaps because he has chosen me and definitely rewards those who serve him.

Thank you for the sweet compliment you gave my poem.

bonnie

"He never claimed to be god."

 

Actually He did claim to be God....

 

John 10:30  " I and the Father are One."

 

The Jews obviously concluded that he did claim to be God because in the next 2 verses they attempted to stone him for such a statement.

 

"But the jews desperatly needed messiah to come. Judaism was falling apart and selling out to the highest bidder."

 

Can you explain this statement as well? This is new to me.

 

 

First of all in Genesis it says:

Gen 2:24 24": Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall'> cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Now my husband and I have been married a long time and we are still "two flesh". But we agaree as one. I absolutly believe that verse is saying that Jesus and God operated as one by most certainly not the same.

 

 There are many, many verses in which Jesus showed he and God were not the same:

John 8:28": Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

The priesthood was to be filled by the Levites but by the time of the Macabees it  was for sale to the highest bidder.

Good research and I know it is confusing. I understand the Trinity. But how do you wrestle with Jesus's statement, and the verses that state God came as man (Jesus), and the verses that reminds us that Jesus was sinless, he was without sin, only God is without sin correct? Jesus and God must have been one right?

Thank you.

As you well know, the trinity is much older than Christianity, in fact it is found in very ancient pagan religions.

I believe that just as Rome absorbed pagan holidays to bring in the pagans, they also roped in the trinity and the virgin birth.

 

In my opinion, when it comes down to it one must have "faith" and a great deal of imagination to believe in the bible. Before I studied outside the bible , I had that "faith". But fact , reasoning and common sense took over. When I saw the multitude of evidence against it, I could no longer believe it.

 

If a new 3000 year old book pops up tomorrow claiming that "Bob, was the son of God and he had a plan for you and he was the true God"...would you believe it? Would you not demand proof if for no other reason than to discretdit it?

 

I can not prove there is no god any more than you can prove there is. But I do know one thing, if there is a God, he would be smart enough to reveal his self in a way that everyone could believe in..Jews were not wonderful holy people. Why do you think they claim to be chosen? Maybe for the same reasons thers claim to be chosen.

 

I trust if there is a god , it knows my heart and it also knows I was a Christian for a very long time and why I'm not today. Believe me, I did not let go easily. Thousands of prayers and tears went up to the heaven with no response.

 

Do you believe god helped  my neighbors get a new car but let my other neighbors 8 year old daughter be kidnapped, raped and beaten and left to die in a ditch? If god is watching all, did he see what happened to that little girl? If he hears all, did he hear her cries? If he knows all, did he know there was no one around for miles to help her?

If you had seen, heard, and knew would you have sat idly by?

 

I have no great powers and I know very little but I do know if I could have I would have stopped it even if it meant dying!!!! I refuse to believe in a God who would watch the horrors of the earth and ignore the cries! And for that matter, I refuse to believe in a God that would inflict thjat kind of anguish on others especially innocent babies (reference deuteronomy).

*sigh* I will hold my tongue, and say ZILCH - but I know you know what I'm not saying! Love ya Mom

Spell excuse all the "dropped letters" and a few added ones...sometimes I get ahead of myself and push reply before I proof read.