I heard this story on the news a couple weeks ago and forgot about it, but thanks to a reminder from alfewi, here's some very controversial news out of Mississippi.  A trio of legislators (2 Republicans, 1 Democrat) have introduced a bill that would make it illegal for state-licensed restaurants to serve obese customers. 

While obesity is certainly a huge problem in the US, it seems like something the government really can't regulate, at least in this way.  First, there would need to be standards as to how to classify someone as obese.  Second, restaurants would need some way to measure people (would they put a scale or fat % calculator in every restaurant?) against those standards.  Third, and perhaps most difficult - how would they enforce such a bill?  "Fat Marshalls" in every restaurant?  

I can see where legislators are coming from - obesity is both a health crisis and something that inflates everyone's healthcare costs.  But, having the state tell us who can and can't eat out seems a bit extreme, and impossible.
 
   

 


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shadeofgray on
Re: Mississippi to Vote on Bill to Ban the Obese from Restaurants
... and tongue in cheek
keenu on
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Wouldn't it be alot easier to make it so there were different standards as far as WHAT was being served, or how it was cooked....so those who are obese can actually eat healthy?

 

What if your pregnant?  In some pregnancies you gain weight all over, making you LOOK fat, but the weight gain is normal....I pity the restaurant that turns down a pregnant woman with a craving...

rancettela on
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If the government wanted to regulate something, they should regulate PORTIONS, not who can be served. I'm sure it would violate some law if they "discriminated". 

However, I think it would be fair for all you can eat places to charge one price if you're under 200 lbs. and other prices if you're within other ranges $10 more for 200-300 lbs. $10 more if you're 301-400 lbs, etc. If you're 800lbs, they you just have to pay way extra. Of course, they would have to have scales, and they would have to warn their customers of this ahead of time.
swanginbajingo on
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Why should you pay extra for the same amount of food?  That doesn't make a bit of sense.  What if you're, say, 220 and in the process of actually trying to lose weight, but there's a special occasion so you go to a restaurant to celebrate, only to see an extra $10 tacked onto your bill 'cuz you're fatter?

Then there's also the matter of a pregnant woman posted by racettela above.

Portions wouldn't help, either.  If a fat person wants a lot of food, a fat person will order a lot of food.  Portioning won't stop it.

Frankly, this is a nonissue where too many people are worried about others' choices.  It's only an issue when fat people start dropping in the streets and start crowding our hospitals.  Oh, wait, this hasn't happened yet, probably won't happen in such a coincidental way, and we deal with FAR more idiocy when hospitals are backed up with morons running around desperately trying to get that flu shot every year.
rancettela on
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Um, sorry, but if you eat more you should be charged more. If you go to the grocery store, you will be charged more if you buy 3 - 8 lb. steaks instead of 1 - 8 lb. steak. They're trying to change something, because fat and obsese people are taking advantage and ruining their lives and dying early. If you want to overeat, go for it.
rancettela on
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btw I am talking about "ALL YOU CAN EAT" places. If you go to a regular restaurant, they should charge the same if they are handing out the same portions, obviously.
currents on
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sorry - not fair. My sister in law has been very overweight since childhood. She has recently begun getting treatment for polysistic ovarian syndrome - a genetic disorder that effects a woman's hormones and bloodsugar levels. Now that she is on medication to control the symptoms, her weight is melting off. She eats no different then she did before, she has failed at dieting all her life, but now that she is being treated for this hormonal imbalance she is loosing weight. I'm sure that even at an all you can eat restaurant, she never would have had more than a normal serving size - she's just never been a big eater.

Overcharging her would be robbery. Not fair at all.

swanginbajingo on
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Oh, right, I missed "all-you-can-eat," but my statement still holds.

AYCEBs know that their little business plan is inefficient and yields little profit.  If they don't specifically state that you will be charged more if caught eating more of the more expensive dishes, then that's their own fault.  It shouldn't be a randomly-tacked bill.

AYCEBs already have this little "solution" in effect.  It should not be mandatory everywhere.  Some AYCEBs are nice and just charge a generic price.  Others charge if you stay extra long.  Others charge if you are found eating too much of a particular food.

They all have clear guidelines.  And those that don't can do nothing about it except modify their current standards to counter the "problem."  The government has no business there.
SaikotikGunman on
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That's terribly unfair.  I have a large frame, an six feet tall, and am fairly heavily muscled due to a lot of manual labor.  If I ever weight less than 200 pounds, I will be in an unhealthy state.

Weight or even BMI are terribly inaccurate and unacceptable for that criteria.
rancettela on
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But restaurants deem it unfair if you weigh that much and you eat much more than the average person. They don't want to lose money just because some people weigh and/or eat much more.
SaikotikGunman on
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Then they shouldn't have an all you can eat option.
currents on
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Horray Saikotik! I agree.
shiny on
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I think this is where the controversy stems:  the assumption that if you're overweight, you'll have no self-control top stop yourself from pigging out at the all-you-can-eat buffet. Thus -- we should charge these fat people -- these undisciplined, fat people who just can't stop eating -- more money, right?

But that's not always the case. As presented here, there are quite a few examples of people whose weight is not based on calorie intake or a sedentary lifestyle.  And painting them all with one broad stroke (no pun intended) is quite unfair.

But I'm with Saikotik on this one -- if "All You Can Eat" buffets are complaining about this, then they should simply switch away from a one-price, unlimited option.

-- S
cas on
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Well, what about me? I am bulimic and I am at a normal weight for someone my height. What if I decided to go on a splurge and have several plates of food -- which is VERY possible -- only to go purge it all away. A person with bulimia could easily eat 20 plates of food, only weighing in at 90 pounds, if they make regular trips to the bathroom.

Do I still pay the regular price because I look healthy?

I think weight has nothing to do with it. People with higher metabolisms tend to put away a lot more food than someone with a lower metabolism because they burn off their energy at faster rates.
gottaluvme on
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ok, so i am 6 months pregnant and i weigh over 200lbs now and i should have to pay more money because i have a baby in my stomach? actually while being pregnant i eat less because the baby is pushing on my stomach, when i go out i actually eat 1/3 of what i did while not pregnant. i shouldn't have to pay $10 more because i want to be a mother.
rancettela on
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good for you. then don't eat out if you don't like the extra cost.
currents on
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Haha - don't listen to a word of it gottaluvme. You enjoy eating out as much as you can now cause it's not easy when the baby gets here. You won't eat a whole meal in peace for quite a while.
gottaluvme on
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that's a little rude!
katmanndoo on
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Wow, are you having a bad day? That's a really rude thing to say to a pregnant person who couldn't diet right now if she wanted to. She didn't say she was big before she got pregnant. When their pregnant some women just gain a lot of weight. It just works that way sometimes.
johnndepp on
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some times when you are pregnant you cant help but eat

they are feeding two people so being pregnant does not mean they are fat.

alwaysdoot on
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What was that about?  That was unbelievably rude and extremely uncalled for.  If that was a stab at humor in sarcasm, you failed miserably. 
katmanndoo on
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That's just unfair. As you can see from my picture, I'm a large woman, have been my whole life. However, at meals I don't eat anymore then the average person. It's the junk I eat in the privacy of my own home that packs on the pounds. When we go to All You Can Eat places I eat half the amount that my 180 lb husband eats. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of people are the same way.

 

I don't think the government should get involved in regulating how much over weight people can eat. It's our own problem for being big. If All You Can Eat restaurants have a problem with how much food some people are eating then maybe they should put a little asterick on their sign. Then have another sign that says you are limited to 3 plates or something. I might make 5 trips to the food bar, but my plate is usually not even half full. I just don't care for my food to run together. Then again, maybe the All You Can Eat restaurants should just start serving from a regular menu where you pay for every single item you consume. That would also cut down on the waste.

tattooedjen on
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holy crap!  that's the most insane thing i've ever heard!
now... i understand obesity in our nation, particularly in children, being an epidemic of huge proportions (har har).  but to pass a governmental law to ban fat people from eating in restaurants is absurd.

i am an "obese" person.  weight is totally something i'm constantly struggling with!  if a law was passed to actually ban me from a restaurant... i can't even imagine how my reaction.  i know it'd be extreme, but i'd be so absolutely pissed!

so... they're going to ban fat people from restaurants, because lord knows, if we're fat, it must be because we eat way too much, fat people probably order like... three entrees a piece, right?  (heheh, me and skinny fiance rarely order appetizers, and i can't remember the last time we ordered a dessert, and we both end up taking half our meals home as leftovers.  and yet, i'm fat.)  so instead of going to the restaurant, because it'd be illegal, all the fat people could go to the grocery store, where it is legal for them to shop... and buy a couple gallons of ice cream, eight bags of chips, and some frozen pizzas, and go home and gorge themselves.

but god forbid they sit at a restaurant and eat.

i'd be interested in seeing where this goes... i'll have to do some research on this article.
myclette on
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I think the Supreme Court would see that as discrimination. 

 

 

morgie13 on
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I'm with you.  I think this would be viewed as discrimination by the Supreme Court and I don't think that there is a person dumb enough in this world to not realize that.  Yes, obesity in our country is a problem, but this is DEFINITELY not the way to solve it.  I understand that some people struggle with weight from the time they are little, but then there are others who are perfectly happy with their weight and want to continue to live the lifestyle they do.  If that lifestyle consists of eating themselves into an early grave, then so be it!  Who is the government to tell someone that they can't eat till they're blue in the face and have gained a few pounds since they showed up at the joint?  If the all-you-can-eat places don't like how much their obese customers eat, then they should switch to something else.
myclette on
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Amen!

 


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