Gregorius Nekschot is a controversial cartoonist in The Netherlands who “is known primarily for cartoons mocking Muslims and leftists” according to an MSNBC report sent to us by niassa.  Last week, he was arrested by Dutch police for violating hate speech laws.  A spokesperson for the police said “We suspect him of insulting people on the basis of their race or belief, and possibly also of inciting hate.”

While Nekschot’s cartoons are non-English, you can probably tell from the one posted above why he may draw the ire of some.  But, his cartoons are posted primarily to his personal web site.  That seems like a big departure from the freedom of speech laws we have in the media here, where at most, controversial language and topics are relegated to cable, or outside of prime time hours.  

Do you think the US should be more like The Netherlands, or is arresting people based on what they publish to the Web a case of the government really overstepping its bounds?   
 
   

 


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cas on
Re: Freedom of Speech: Not Quite Alive and Well in The Netherlands
I believe in the saying 'actions speak louder than words.' Something like this falls into that category for me -- its one thing to be saying your opinion... it's a completely different story when you are actually doing it.

This is why I have no problem with the Phelps' family. They have every right to try to get people to believe that "God Hates Fags," and I have absolutely no right to try to stop them.. it is when they overstep their boundaries and try to do things about it in violent ways that make me angry.

I think there should be absolutely no censorship on the web in America. This is the peoples' source of truth, and we need that truth to thrive in times of the major media taking over and no longer becoming a plausible source of "real news."
cas on
Re: Freedom of Speech: Not Quite Alive and Well in The Netherlands
P.S. -- I love Mindsay news again! Thanks for listening!
masivemaple on
Re: Freedom of Speech: Not Quite Alive and Well in The Netherlands
Great answer...if we could vote one of these for Top Blogs I'd do it.
cas on
Re: Freedom of Speech: Not Quite Alive and Well in The Netherlands
Maybe Mindsay will work on a "top comments" feature. :]

Thank you for the appreciation.
neonite on
Re: Freedom of Speech: Not Quite Alive and Well in The Netherlands
I personally believe that the Netherlands are really overstepping their bounds, here. I can understand if he had published something like this in a news paper that there could be some controversy, but if it's on his own personal website, one would think that it would only be available to people who WANT to see it, and not just people seeking out an effigy to burn.
tattooedjen on
Re: Freedom of Speech: Not Quite Alive and Well in The Netherlands
i dunno... i'd still rather live in Holland than the US.  free health care... free education... legal weed.

i would be more than happy to not be racist in exchange for all of the above.
semiomniscient on
Re: Freedom of Speech: Not Quite Alive and Well in The Netherlands
It's not free health care or education, it's still paid by you.  Income taxes are an evil that should be expunged... grrr...
wearethemusic on
Re: Freedom of Speech: Not Quite Alive and Well in The Netherlands
I think until there is a basic, internationally universal set of laws to govern the internet, where ever the IP address is, that country has every right to deal with things as they please. No, it's not fair, and no, I don't agree with that, but I think that's the way it is, sadly.

~Alisa
bonniegirl on
Re: Freedom of Speech: Not Quite Alive and Well in The Netherlands
So many people seem to think that other countries should or do run their countries the way we Americans do.  This is sooooo not the case.  If their government has no hate laws, and they feel that he is violating them, and that these cartoons could be instigating and riling people up, then they have every right to arrest someone for violating the laws. 

Freedom of speech and the press and all that is great for us here in the United States, but even we have allowed some things to go too far.  I think that even with certain freedom comes responsibility and there should be clauses in the laws to say so.  Pretty soon our freedom is going to turn around and bite us in the butt.

But then, that is only my humble opinion.
semiomniscient on
Re: Freedom of Speech: Not Quite Alive and Well in The Netherlands
Why should our freedoms not work with other Westerners who come from the same European mold that most of us do?  The question is a matter of ideology--but it's being posed to Americans who have certain beliefs about what sorts of freedoms people should inherently have (not just Americans). 

Hate crimes are stupid.  You should be prosecuted for breaking laws, not the motive for breaking them. 


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