Personally, I am troubled by this, I think the government should not be involved in any faith based or religious based anything , period. Another point here is that it would be nice to see charity organizations that are pagan, or alternative based get involved more in the world. I know that neopagan  is a fairly new religion , but I think that it is now in their best interests to start getting more involved in helping their communities, I know alot of them give to other charities that are already functioning in the field , and so their acts of charity goes unnoticed by the mainstream, maybe if they organized their own charity organizations, it would change their image from being so self centered and only concerned about 'I' instead of 'others'. And another point , what in earth is Obama doing? This is why politics stinks in my book because really they are all the same,but different :),in reality.

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Obama Discusses Expansion of Faith-Based Initiatives

Wednesday July 2, 2008
In what's most likely an effort to court the evangelical vote in the upcoming presidential election, candidate Barack Obama told an audience the other day that he hopes to revamp the Faith-Based Initiative program instituted by the Bush administration. In a speech in Zanesville, Ohio, Obama proposed working to make sure that any charity receiving government funding be monitored, ostensibly to keep them from prosetylizing to those who would benefit in their programs, and "to prevent any religion-based discrimination against potential recipients or employees".

While I'm somewhat disappointed to hear him even discuss this -- because I don't think the government has any business getting involved in faith-based anything -- there's a part of me that wonders if maybe restructuring the existing system isn't such a bad idea after all. Obviously, faith-based charities are here to stay, so maybe if they were more strictly regulated, people wouldn't find themselves at the receiving end of a "no food until you hear a sermon" situation.

I've also heard people complain with this logic: "Would a Wiccan charity be embraced as much as a Christian or Catholic charity is?" Well, my response to that is "Start one up and find out." If a Wiccan or Pagan group can present themselves with the level of organization and forethought that some of the charities run by mainstream religious groups have, then by all means, give it a shot.

What do you guys think? Should the government do away with faith-based initiatives completely, or regulate the system so that it's fair for everyone who might be receiving the benefits of those charities?
 
   

 


 
 
ubu13 on
Re: IS OBAMA SHOWING HIS TRUE COLORS?
Yeah, I agree again.  I am feeling more and more that politics taints people and maybe there is no way you can change the system without taking it apart totally.  Unfortunately, what I am seeing with Obama is that he is succumbing to his political consultants or something and becoming more and more like just any other candidate.  Very sad...but who knows from the outside.  And, we have to remember, things were still better under Clinton than under Bushie.  Anything was better than that.  So, even if Obama becomes just another Democrat, that is still better, but my faith in possibilities lessens each day.
shadeofgray on
Re: IS OBAMA SHOWING HIS TRUE COLORS?
Obamites projected their ideals onto him. He is human. He wants to ensure election. He will be beholden to all those that all politicians are beholden to. I will vote for him because we cannot allow another monkey man to run the country, but I feel betrayed.
myroost on
Re: IS OBAMA SHOWING HIS TRUE COLORS?
they all suck, and I never trust any of them! since we travel so much I never know if we will be home to vote, but I am not going to vote abseentee ballat again, since  I really don't think it matters. hell the dems have hollered and screamed when the rep. had the congress that they couldn't do anything, now they have majority, and they still cant do anything, the rep. seem to be able to tho, why is that?

myroost on
Re: IS OBAMA SHOWING HIS TRUE COLORS?
its not that I am not going to vote, I will if I am home that tues. but i am not going out of my way to. last 2 times i voted absentee, i had to go to town and find a damn notary public to have them sign the thing, and time before that I had to drive 60 miles round trip to our county seat to vote at the court house, and both times damn bush stole the election, what a waste of time and energy now with gas it will cost me over 14$ to vote , NOT, if i am home i will vote obama unless someone jumps in at last moment that is better
k10 on
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yeah, this troubled me too.

 
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