
I hate reading about hate.
Did you even read the rest of my post?
In fact, you're right. Hate is too strong a word. I'll tone it down right now.
But still, did you even read the rest of my post?
In fact, you're right. Hate is too strong a word. I'll tone it down right now.
But still, did you even read the rest of my post?
My point has nothing to do with hating bush. I state that while I don't think he is a good president, I don't think it's his fault the hurricane happened and caused so much damage. However, thanks to his appointment of the head of FEMA, the damage is getting worse, and he needs to be held accountable for that appointment once this crisis is over.
You don't think he should take responsibility for hiring someone unqualified to do the job?
You don't think he should take responsibility for hiring someone unqualified to do the job?
Then why did you even mention hating him if it had to do nothing with your post? You have previously accused people of not backing up their posts with facts that make sense. And now when someone says the same to you, you get all defensive. I'm just saying.
I'm not trying to get defensive. Stating that I hated him was strenghtening my first argument, because my first argument was that I don't blame him for what happened. So many people on MindSay are saying it's his fault, he shouldn't have cut funding, etc. I'm saying that's not the case. Even though I hate him, even though I hate most of the decisions he makes, I don't hate him for the hurricane happening. However, I can hate him for what is happening after the hurricane.
Considering him the cause helps no one. But once it's over, clearing out the people responsible for making it worse is necessary to rebuilding.
In essense I'm sort of saying, "It's okay to hate him, but it's unfair to blame him for the hurricane happening."
Considering him the cause helps no one. But once it's over, clearing out the people responsible for making it worse is necessary to rebuilding.
In essense I'm sort of saying, "It's okay to hate him, but it's unfair to blame him for the hurricane happening."
Okay you changed your wording. Which I respect that. I've had to change my wording sometimes too. The fact is though, that you said hate wasn't good, but you hate George Bush. Yes, I voted for him and I'm unhappy and I realize that not voting for him and being unhappy may be worse. However if hating is bad, and you hate him, how strong does that make you as a person? Hate is an all-consuming cancer and can ruin a person. Love is what we're called to do...even to our enemies. Not that it's not hard. It is.
However you changed your wording to "not like" instead of hate. That's good.
And I can't believe some people are blaming him for the hurricane. That's just stupid. So, you made your point there. Thanks.
Well for one, I never said hating is bad, thus since I hate him I am bad. I didn't say that.
Plus, I'm using the word hate in my replies with you now because that's what we started with. But I changed the wording in the post because I realized you were right. Hate is too harsh. I may hate his policies. But I shouldn't say I hate the man. I shouldn't even say I hate is policies. I just disagree with them.
You're correct that no one should hate anyone, but there is no reason why I should love George Bush. I don't love his stance on politics. I don't love his stance on morals. I don't love his use of language. I don't love that some people on MindSay believe God chose him to be their president because he is a "good and true Christian" yet he lies and kills. I know that every president lies and kills. They have to. But then no "good and true Christian" should ever want to be president, because they would have to lie and kill. I don't love that he never takes responsibility for anything. I don't love that he still claims he has done everything right. I don't love that some people voted for him because, "he seems like he'd be a great guy to have a beer with," even though that has nothing to do with whether he'd be able to lead a country. And since I don't know him personally, I don't love anything about him personally.
That's fine if you think love is what we are called to do, but I don't believe I have any need to love him. He has done nothing to earn my love.
Plus, I'm using the word hate in my replies with you now because that's what we started with. But I changed the wording in the post because I realized you were right. Hate is too harsh. I may hate his policies. But I shouldn't say I hate the man. I shouldn't even say I hate is policies. I just disagree with them.
You're correct that no one should hate anyone, but there is no reason why I should love George Bush. I don't love his stance on politics. I don't love his stance on morals. I don't love his use of language. I don't love that some people on MindSay believe God chose him to be their president because he is a "good and true Christian" yet he lies and kills. I know that every president lies and kills. They have to. But then no "good and true Christian" should ever want to be president, because they would have to lie and kill. I don't love that he never takes responsibility for anything. I don't love that he still claims he has done everything right. I don't love that some people voted for him because, "he seems like he'd be a great guy to have a beer with," even though that has nothing to do with whether he'd be able to lead a country. And since I don't know him personally, I don't love anything about him personally.
That's fine if you think love is what we are called to do, but I don't believe I have any need to love him. He has done nothing to earn my love.
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Well you know how important those Arabian horses are and they are worth alot more than the poor people who lived in New Orleans.
Bush says that he is personally going to investigate what went wrong - isn't that like asking a child molester to investigate why a child got raped?
Haha, excellent point. It's sort of, only not really at all, like a man being on trial for murder and the judge saying, "Are you innocent or gulity?" and the man saying, "Innocent, sir," and the judge saying, "Oh, okay. You're free to go."
Wow, I'm glad we have some top notch, highly qualified people holding these high public office positions. The people in the government are doing a fine job at scratching each others backs. Isn't it nice that we're paying these peoples large salaries and benefits?
Like you said, where's the accountability? There is none. A classic example is our president. Whats worse is that he usually strongly denies himself of doing any wrong. In his eyes, he can do no wrong.
And thats part of the problem. We need people who can go, you know what, we really fucked up here. Now lets work on changing it. I think, however, something has to change. The system is set up in such a way that it seems like no matter who is elected, whether it be for president, senator, congressmen, democrats or republicans, each has their own self-serving interests, and in particular the interest of being re-elected, that should be catered to above all other interests. These interests go further than being re-elected, such as serving the interest to corporations. (Gee, i'm sure no one in washington ever gets kickbacks or favors...)
There's a news article on the outside of the math department at the school i went to. It spoke about why public officials should be mathematicians, and gave a series of elementary questions that they should be able to answer in order to qualify for tese positions. If i ever find it i'll post it. I couldn't agree more with what it said.
Like you said, where's the accountability? There is none. A classic example is our president. Whats worse is that he usually strongly denies himself of doing any wrong. In his eyes, he can do no wrong.
And thats part of the problem. We need people who can go, you know what, we really fucked up here. Now lets work on changing it. I think, however, something has to change. The system is set up in such a way that it seems like no matter who is elected, whether it be for president, senator, congressmen, democrats or republicans, each has their own self-serving interests, and in particular the interest of being re-elected, that should be catered to above all other interests. These interests go further than being re-elected, such as serving the interest to corporations. (Gee, i'm sure no one in washington ever gets kickbacks or favors...)
There's a news article on the outside of the math department at the school i went to. It spoke about why public officials should be mathematicians, and gave a series of elementary questions that they should be able to answer in order to qualify for tese positions. If i ever find it i'll post it. I couldn't agree more with what it said.
You're so right about Bush never taking responsibility. His administration too. I remember after America first realized Iraq was a disaster Cheney went on TV and said, "Iraq is an overwhelming success." Yeah, okay.
That's one of the things I liked about Kerry. He took responsibility. He admitted when he was wrong. During the debates he said, "Yes, I voted to go to war. At the time I thought it was the right thing to do. Now I really I was wrong, and we need to do everything we can to get our troops out of there."
But Bush was like, "We were right to go to war. We belong in Iraq. We will forge ahead and continue what we're doing."
I can't stand not taking responsibility for a mistake.
He made the decision to apoint this unqualified man to an important post. The country is in turmoil because of it. There's no way around that.
That's one of the things I liked about Kerry. He took responsibility. He admitted when he was wrong. During the debates he said, "Yes, I voted to go to war. At the time I thought it was the right thing to do. Now I really I was wrong, and we need to do everything we can to get our troops out of there."
But Bush was like, "We were right to go to war. We belong in Iraq. We will forge ahead and continue what we're doing."
I can't stand not taking responsibility for a mistake.
He made the decision to apoint this unqualified man to an important post. The country is in turmoil because of it. There's no way around that.
Yeah. And while i really have a disdain for idealogy, I would rather have someone whos willing to change their mind. It amazes me how people want the steadfast certainty of bush, regardless of how right or wrong he is. Thinking in such terms is ignorant, and also selfish.
haha i like the cheney quote. that sums up the bush administration quite nicely.
I wonder what favors were exchanged for his appointment. Clearly he's not very good with assessing risk, and dealing with emergency situations, which, you probably should be for that job.
haha i like the cheney quote. that sums up the bush administration quite nicely.
I wonder what favors were exchanged for his appointment. Clearly he's not very good with assessing risk, and dealing with emergency situations, which, you probably should be for that job.
Of couse. It's absurd. If you get fired from a job you should have a hard time getting hired anywhere, let alone a high position like that. It's a disgrace.
People love the fact that Bush sticks to his guns, and it blows my mind. If the president of a company made a decision that had a negative impact on a company and then went into a meeting with his board members and said, "I was right to do what I did," and they said, "But no, this, this, and this have happened, all hurting our company," and he said, "No, I was right to do it, and I'd do it again," they would say, "You would do this again? Then guess what? We aren't going to give you the opportunity to. You're fired."
But the American people goes, "Damn right you'd do it again. You stick to those guns. You keep screwing our country up."
People love the fact that Bush sticks to his guns, and it blows my mind. If the president of a company made a decision that had a negative impact on a company and then went into a meeting with his board members and said, "I was right to do what I did," and they said, "But no, this, this, and this have happened, all hurting our company," and he said, "No, I was right to do it, and I'd do it again," they would say, "You would do this again? Then guess what? We aren't going to give you the opportunity to. You're fired."
But the American people goes, "Damn right you'd do it again. You stick to those guns. You keep screwing our country up."
Yeah.
Although whats interesting is how CEO's are being rewarded for scandelous behavoir. You're fired, but your sent on your way with millions of dollars worth of severence pay....
Yup, it baffles me how he is able to convince people what he does is right. Everyone else is wrong.
Although whats interesting is how CEO's are being rewarded for scandelous behavoir. You're fired, but your sent on your way with millions of dollars worth of severence pay....
Yup, it baffles me how he is able to convince people what he does is right. Everyone else is wrong.
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