If any of you sat through the three hours and seven minutes of Hollywood's latest computer animated film (with a few real human beings thrown in for good measure) - King Kong - then you have bared witness to the end of actual filmmaking as we know it.

What do I define as filmmaking? Remember in Indiana Jones when the rickety bridge falls apart and bad guys plunge to their death while Indy hangs on for dear life? To shoot that scene, a real set was built with a real bridge, actual actors were brought in to actually act, professional cameraman used real-life cameras to shoot the action (after a cinematographer and lighting designer worked their art), and little dummies were made with flailing arms and legs. Then, the filmmakers destroyed the real bridge, the dummies went falling into the water below, and Harrison Ford's stunt double grabbed onto the sides of a cliff as a camera, with true auteur Steven Spielburg behind it, captured every glorious moment.

That is how you make a movie.

King Kong is how you make a cartoon.

Consider this - When King Kong fights three T-rexes while clutching a screaming Ann Darrow like a stress ball, not a single thing in that shot is real. There were no cameras. There was no set. There were no actors. Everything was fake. Everything was made on a computer. Amazingly talented animators drew a giant ape, three giant dinosaurs, a very fake looking Naomi Watts, and a massive jungle behind them.

So Peter Jackson, Academy Award winning director of Lord of the Rings as well as mediocre crap like The Frighteners and absolute crap like Dead Alive, stood behind the animators and said, "Nah, draw that dinosaur's teeth a little bigger. Good, now draw, like, a totally awesome fight scene!"

That is what passes for filmmaking now? That is a somewhat realistic cartoon, not a movie.

The magic of moviemaking is gone. The skill of designing sets, the art of perfecting the right camera angle, the beauty of getting the lighting just right to make the face of the lead actress glow from behind, is all gone, all replaced by computers. And King Kong is, with a little help from George Lucas and his three latest Star Wars movies, is ushering in this new era.

And moviewatchers suffer the consequences, because let's face it, an actor cannot give the best performance possible if he or she is standing in the middle of a green room and a director says, "Ok, now imagine you are in a deep, dark cave, you can hardly see, and a giant bat with four eyes is flying toward you. Pretend you are frightened. Good, now pretend you are ducking the bat, ok he's coming back, now just jump, great, ok now jump again. Perfect!" People's eyes and expressions change when they are actually looking at something. When they are acting in front of a green screen, that realism just isn't there.

That great performance just isn't there.

To me, this type of moviemaking is a cheap imitation of real moviemaking. People without much talent use a green screen as a crutch. I think this is embodied perfectly in King Kong's director, Peter Jackson.

Many critics and fans are hailing Peter Jackson has a genious. Respected movie reviewer James Bernardinelli called him a wizard.

Where exactly is his talent?

If you watch the first hour of King Kong, that is to say, the one part of the movie where there actually were actors and cameras, you would have seen atrocious overacting the likes of which is typically reserved for broadway plays where the actor has to perform for viewers in the second balcony, cheesy and super corny dialogue you'd expect to see written by a kid crafting a play for a doll's tea party, and pathetic editing that amounted to a wavy camera with a cheap blur technique I don't even think a high school kid would want to use in a student film for fear that a pretentious teacher would laugh at it.

Where in that movie is the work of a genious wizard? Anything that involved actual directing is laughably bad, and every other part of the movie was drawn on computers. Typically, when a director wants a good performance out of an actor, that director has to motivate the actor to really understand the complexities of the character, and to get lost in the moment. When Naomi Watts is making King Kong laugh, the only talent involved was that of the animator perfectly fine-tuning the lines of the mammoth gorilla's flapping jaw.

But this, ladies and gentlemen, is the future of filmmaking. Creating everything on computers. In essence, making those cut scenes that run between levels of a video game to further the plot along.

Now, I have heard arguments that, "The dialogue was supposed to be really corny. The movie was supposed to be bad."

Is that seriously going to be your argument? People, this movie cost excess of $207 million to make. That's almost a quarter of a billion dollars. Do you really need to spend that much money to make a bad movie? Give me twenty bucks and a camera and I'll make a bad movie for you.

I was baffled when movie critics and award shows showered Peter Jackson with praise for the Lord of the Rings movies. Yes, the special effects were phoneminal and yes, he brought the mega popular books to life. But anyone who has studied film should have noticed the poor editing, and quirky camera angles, and the cheesy blur effects that seemed to be mimicking Miami Vice. I couldn't imagine how people with knowledge of the film business could have considered those good films.

Now I realize it's because there is a conspiracy. Either that, or Peter Jackson has brainwashed everyone. I think this because now the same overblown praise is being awarded to King Kong. Roger Ebert, one of the most famous critics in the world, wrote in his review, "This is one of the year's best films."

Roger, if dialgue and acting this bad exists in one of the year's best films, then this was a really, really bad year for films.

In my opinion, the moments when Naomi Watts and King Kong were the only characters on the screen were great. Honestly. But every other part of the movie was absolutely awful, and the first hour is the worst movie I've seen all year.

So much went wrong with this never-should-have-been-made remake.

It was as if Naomi Watts was in a totally different movie, because besides her, every other actor gives what I think amounts to collectively the worst performances of the year, and on multiple occasions the characters are given painfully long bits of dialogue that describe an entire plotpoint or someone's full backstory in one sitting, something that a first time screenwriter might concoct in a movie that would never see the light of day, or that would be seen as trite and cliched if it ever was made.

Plus, one of the major points of the plot doesn't make sense. Jack Black's character, a film director, says that he has stumbled upon a map of a mythical island that has never been discovered.  The flaw in this logic, of course, is that if the island has never been discovered, then there can't be a map of it. If a map exists, that means it has been discovered. This moment would foreshadow my feelings for the entire rest of the experience.

And the scene in which Jack Black declares his ownership of sad map is so horribly directed that I don't even want to talk about it. Peter Jackson is supposed to be one of the best directors in showbusiness right now and his inability to craft a simple scene astounds me.

Actually, while we're on the subject, let me pinpoint the exact moment I realized he couldn't really direct. This movie has some stunning action sequences. All of them are computer generated.

The one scene - the ONE scene - that required real cameramen to capture a choreographed fight sequence between real, honest to goodness human beings, was shot with the camera waving around frantically to the accompanyment of trippy, blurry images as if the audience had just smoked crack.

Why did Peter Jackson do this? Because he can't actually direct. He can only tell cartoonists to click mouse buttons and draw impressive looking dinosaurs. When it comes time to stage a real action sequence, he was lost. He had to resort to cheap tricks.

To the people who said that this movie had top-notch acting and directing, I honestly wonder what movie you were watching. I see movies like Crash, Cinderella Man, Syriana, A History of Violence, Walk the Line, War of the Worlds, Brokeback Mountain, Capote, and Millions (all movies that came out this year, the same year that Roger Ebert said King Kong was one of the best films of) and am astounded that people could consider the acting (besides Naomi Watts's performance) anything but disasterous, and the directing anything but amateurish.

Reading glowing reviews of this movie makes me physically angry.

Why am I so angry about this? Why do I care so much?

Peter Jackson is just like so many people in this world today (our president included). That is, he has way too much power and way too much money and it is totally undeserved. I realized this while watching President Bush's speech last night. To me, hearing people praise Bush for, "being really honest with us in how the war is going" when he was really anything but, is the same as calling Peter Jackson a wizard when he has less talent than some of the people I graduated from college with (who can't even get a business to loan them money for a camera while Peter Jackson gets $207 million).

I mean, come on. Peter Jackson is a multi-multi-millionaire who is respected and admired and has been given so much undeserved power that he was allowed to remake one of the most beloved movies in history (the original 1933 King Kong) for the most money ever ($207 million plus more than $75 million for marketing) with the ability to cast whoever he wanted (Jack Black as Carl Denham and Adrien Brody as Jack Driscoll) as well as having final cut authority (which is why it is over three-hours-long).

Why is this man even allowed to work in Hollywood let alone have full control over the most expensive movie ever made?

I wanted to like this movie so much. I wanted Peter Jackson to prove me wrong. Instead, he revealed to me just how inept with a camera he really is.

In my opinion, King Kong, and the worshipped god of a man who made it, are pathetic.

And its existance marks the end of actual filmmaking as we know it.

I hope all you people who said you liked King Kong really, really love Pixar movies like Toy Story and The Incredibles, because that's what all movies are going to be soon thanks to the 25-foot tall gorilla that is Peter Jackson
 
   

 


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drdrew on
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Cost to make movie:  300 million
Peter Jackson's salary:  299.5 million

Thanks for the warning, I'll save my money.
mullows on
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HAHAHAHAHA and he's a thief too!
pinkchic on
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 i thought it was a good film so there 
mullows on
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That's fine.  I'm not saying you can't think that.  Although I will ask what you liked about it.  Besides the special effects and action scenes, what did you like about it? 

And would you call it a great film like classics and Oscar winners from the past are?
shiny on
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... which is why we should all remember that "American Pie's 'Band Camp'" hits DVD tomorrow -- no green screens or CGI there!

-- S
mullows on
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So true.  So, so very true.  Those  band instruments are all real.  No fake trickery there.
PIXIDUST23 on
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are you seriously comparing fucking American pie and King Kong? give me a break.
mullows on
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Actually no, we aren't comparing at all.  We are calling them polar opposities.  Notice how I was talking about CG for King Kong, and Shiny pointed out that there is no CG in American Pie.  That is contrasting, not comparing. 


PIXIDUST23 on
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first of all the sarcasm not appreciated at all....second of all. i think you all need to get over it cause we are in the damn 21st century wether we like it or not the world in technology is moving forward. people will from here on out feel y spend the actual time to do something for real when we can fake it so well on computers....i am not saying they are completely right in thinking this cause yes some movies would be a hell of a lot better if they used real sets but in other instances some of them would look like crap if they used real sets and no CG. but wether all you movie buffs are ready for it or not the world of technology is moving forward and probaby will never go back.
mullows on
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Wow, that was very constructive.  Thank you.  It was also the entire point of my post.  
PIXIDUST23 on
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no actual from what i gathered of your post it was to bitch wah wah i'm a movie geek and things weren't like they were. things are never like they were and never will be .the world is moving on in technology. it's time to move along with it. and again don't appreciate the sarcasm thanks....

mullows on
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I'm sorry that you don't appreciate the sarcasm.  I don't appreciate you degrading my post and saying it was to bitch wah wah.  

I respect your comment that the world is moving on in technology.  As a person obsessed with technology, electronics, and gadgets, I'm fully aware of that.  I do not, however, know what, "Things weren't what they were" means.  If they weren't what they were then what were they? 

If you meant things aren't what they are, then thank you so much for explaining the complexities of the world to me.  Things are no longer what things once were.  Instead, they are what they are now.  Wow, that's really deep. 

The dinosaurs in King Kong do not look real.  The lava island in Episode III does not look real.  As a movie geek, I am allowed to not like the fact that none of that looks real.  I fully understand that technology is moving on.  That doesn't minimize the fact that the dinosaurs in King Kong don't look real, and that a scene where nothing was actually in front of a camera and, in fact, there was no camera, means that the scene is a clip of animation. 

And actually your response was the point of my post.  You say that in terms of movies, "the world of technology is moving forward and probaby will never go back."  That's what my post is saying.  Movies like King Kong are the future of moviemaking.  There is no going back.  But guess what?  I'm allowed to not like that and think that it will hurt the industry.  
PIXIDUST23 on
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look you can think what you want to think and i will think what i want to think. i don't agree with all your views. i thought the movie was amazing. cheesy yes but really good. most people will disagree with me and you know what i don't care. i welcome cg with open arms. i think the further and faster the better. you can do so much more with cg. bring new worlds here that you could never do with regular filming and sets. never. look at the lake scene in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. if they had made that a set it would never have worked if you read how the lake was described in the book. never. so you can have your opinion and have fun with it. i have said what i want to say and i'm done.
mullows on
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Wait, don't be done yet.  I just have one question.

If you think King Kong was cheesy than how can you say it was amazing?    Entertaining, yes.  But amazing?  Cheesy and amazing shouldn't be able to describe the same thing, unless you are saying amazingly cheesy. 
PIXIDUST23 on
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the dialogue was cheesy and it was supossed to be. visualy it was amazing. i liked all the actors the scenes were really cool. the only thing about the movie i hated was the natives on the island other than that i had no problems with the movie at all.
champy on
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where the fuck have you been?
mullows on
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Yeah, uh, sorry.  I suppose I've been away for a bit.  
rraspberry on
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Thanks for the review. I don't think I want to see it. Your description sounds like acting of the silent era. And they didn't have all the technology available to them nor did they have much knowledge of the potential of film with respect to editing, etc....
mullows on
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Great analysis.  That's exactly how it is.  
rraspberry on
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So in some ways with the fancy technology we're going backwards. Unless! We haven't realized yet how to make use of the technology just like how filmmakers of the silent era were still trying to determine that one does not have to shoot in sequence or use over dramatic acting like on stage to bring across emotions on celluloid....
mullows on
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Well, I think part of the problem with CG is that it will never look 100% realistic because whatever is being CGed is existing in a different place from the actors.  In my opinion, the original Jurassic Park looks sooo much more realistic than King Kong.  In that movie, the dinosaurs were giant puppets worked by tons of puppeteers, and because they were puppets, they were actually there with the actors, sharing the same space with the actors.  When the T-rex eats the lawyer, a giant puppet is grabbing the man.  When King Kong is holding Ann Darrow, it looks like Noami Watts is being suspended by a rope and a King Kong hand was painted in over her.

There is a scene in King Kong when a bunch of dinosaurs stampede past running humans.  It looks entirely fake.  It looks like in the 50's when the main character would drive a car and you'd see him moving the steering wheel right and left while a screen behind him played a road being driven on.  It really looked that bad.  There was a close-up of Adrian Brody who looked like he was running in place and these dinosaurs were moving behind it, but it didn't look like the dinosaurs were behind it, it looked like they were 3-D animations on a screen behind him.

I don't know if CG can improve beyond this movie.  I don't think CG can ever be 100% realistic.  I just don't see how it can substitue something actually being there. 
rraspberry on
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You have a point there. In the past various technologies like 3-D and *smello-vision* have been introduced - but they all failed with the audience. When filmmakers realize this they will stop making so much use of it. I don't think CG will go away but I hope that filmmakers will realize that good storytelling continues to be based on human acting and bringing human emotions across....
askjesse on
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Technology will get better, just like it always has, and filmmaking will go on changed, but better for it. Stop action King Kong wasn't very realistic, either, but people liked it. There are always going to be movies without CG, because low budget, high grossing movies are still the preferred film-making market. Comedies, Romance, Drama, Thriller... even Horror movies aren't using much CG yet, which is a shame because they usually have horrible acting anyway.

Acting with CG is still weird and akward, that is for sure. No one has been trained for it, not to use it in their films and not to act with nothing because of it. It must be as hard for these actors as those that had to pretend to drive the cars that weren't moving. "Now... pretend that you are taking a hard right turn! Yes! Now you are driving down some stairs.... no more bouncing!!"
mullows on
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I will agree with much of what you say, but in my opinion, movies like Crash are actually the rarities, and the big huge need to be mega blockbusters in order to break even are becoming the standard. 

Just take a look at Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, the Matrix sequels, the Harry Potter movies, the Chronicles of Narnia, War of the Worlds, Sin City, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, the Poseiden Adventure (which cost over $150 million), King Kong (which cost over $200 million), the two upcoming Pirates of the Carribean movies (which both costs over $200 million each), Van Helsing, the Spiderman and X-Men trilogies, the upcoming Superman Returns, even the grounded and generally realistic looking Batman Begins, and the three most recent Star Wars flicks.

Ask how many people have heard of A History of Violence and Brokeback Mountain and then ask how many people have heard of the movies I just named and tell me which type of movie is more the norm these days.
commntyblackman on
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I haven't seen the movie yet, and I will most definitely sometime soon...

Yea, I do often find myself thinking about all the lost emotion found in acting on blue screen, or having a scene filmed entirely in CGI.  I don't like that aspect of a movie.

But when I see a film like King Kong (Mostly CGI, etc) I'll usually enjoy it...if not for good acting, than for the endless hours of brilliant animation (I love Toy Story, AND The Incredibles, lol).

That's what I will most likely end up loving about this movie.  Usually when a movie this "big" comes out, chock full of animation, than the acting isn't really a factor anymore, because I understand that, hey, you're not going to perform as well as movie history's best actors when there is nothing to affect you in the scene.  Sure, it helps not to give an utterly flat performance (for example, see Star Wars II and III, Hayden Christensen as Skywalker), but usually I'm more passive, with the more animation.

The more real scenes used, the less animation, I accomodate for better acting.

I enjoy the high grossing movies very much.  They, usually, are the ones that make me excited, and energetic afterwards, with the action.

But the ones that live in my memory as, "holy crap, what a well written, directed, acted movie, etc etc" are ones like you mentioned.  Donnie Darko, Eternal Sunshine, Crash, and more lesser known movies.

But the ones I
mullows on
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Donnie Darko and Eternal Sunshine are too teriffic movies.  Did you see the Director's Cut of Donnie Darko?

I think one major problem with King Kong is that, in a way, it is trying to be those smaller films, only there's a big mega blockbuster hidden inside it.  the first hour is nothing but character development.  There are no monsters.  There is no action.  The only special effects are the entire CG constructed 1933 New York. 

It's like Peter Jackson was trying to make a stirring drama, he just doesn't have the talent to pull it off.

I'd love to get your opinion once you see it.  I'm hoping you'll still have an open mind about it despite my inflamatory comments. 
commntyblackman on
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Haha, of course.  I've always thought Peter Jackson was unique in that a lot of his ideas I know I could come up with, yet he's making millions and millions more than me (consider his transition from his bad movies, to LotR.  I could probably make a much better movie than the horrible ones he made pre-LotR.  yet he still came out with LotR...lol I hope you understand?)

But yea, I still have a very open mind about it.

Your review of it can't be much worse than when I got TOLD the ending of The Village, and then heard, from countless amounts of people that it was the most terrible movie they've ever seen.  This went on from the theatre release day to DVD release.  I rented the DVD, watched it, and The Village is still one of my most favorite movies I've ever seen, regardless of everything people told me (including the ending.  I had actually forgotten about the twist when I rented it.)

I will definitely tell you what  I thought of King Kong when I see it.

Me and a friend are about to go see Chronicles of Narnia, so I'll tell you what I thought about it through one of my entries.  Have a nice day, and welcome back.  Jesús Christo man, I thought you was dead for a while.
mullows on
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Oh I love The Village.  I thought I was the only one in the world.  I own it on DVD and get laughed at for it.

And uh, yeah, I guess I've been gone for a while, huh?  Sorry about that.
doriangray on
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I do have to say in some cases CGI works when it is used in subtle ways. Did you see The Others with Nichole Kidman? I wasn't aware a movie like that would have CGI in it, but when I watched the making of it I realized it was used a lot. I also thought it was put to good use in What Lies Beneath. While I didn't actually like that movie because I thought it was a huge Hitchcock rip off. I liked the way the director explained why he made it. He said he wanted to make the movie he thought Hitchcock would have made in the era of computer effects.  
mullows on
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Oh, CG definitely has its place.  It was used to great effect in Fight Club (the shots behind the stove and when Edward Norton images his room is a furniture catalogue) as well as thousands of other movies.  It even works really well when there is a lot of CG, like in War of the Worlds.  My problem is when an entire scene is CG.  Take the lava battle in Star Wars Episode III for instance.  Did you see that movie?  When Anakin and Obi Wan are fighting on the lava planet, everything but then looks totally ridiclously fake.

CG is great when used properly.  Just lately movies are overusing it to compensate. 
doriangray on
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Yeah I saw that movie. I also saw the other three so called prequels. I was not a fan. The thing that made the first three so great was the fact that the sets were all built. He created a whole new universe. With the latest three installments he simply turned on his Apple Computer. I wasn't a fan of War of the Worlds. It was an ok movie at best. Speilberg hasn't impressed me lately. Although The Terminal and Catch Me if You Can were ok. A.I. was good, but you could totally see the parts that Kubrick wrote and the parts that Speilberg wrote. There were a lot of parts in Kong that looked fake, but I though the parts in the city were quite amazing. From what I understand he didn't use all CG, but lots of miniatures. There were about 800 miniature shots in the film. Of course you could totally tell in some scenes in the jungle. There was the scene in Central Park where they were sliding on the ice, you could totally tell it was a model.

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