.I am of the opinion that, in today's world, Freud is largely underappreciated. Although many of his ideas may seem extreme, he most likely wrote them with the intentions of seeming more far-gone than he actually was. Going farther than you intend often best gets the point across.

.The truth is, so many people look at Freud and say, "What an old pervert! He just wanted to have as much sex as he could!" The fact of the matter is, Freud was an old, married doctor who enjoyed working in his garden. True, he was young at some point, but that's a different story. The point I'm trying to make is that Freud was not making these theories because he wanted them to be true. He made them because some of them really were... and some of them he simply believed were.

.Freud saw discontent arising from a person's sexual problems. And, really, most discontent could be traced back to sex related issues. Most divorces are sex-related. Many splits in unmarried relationships are sex related. Much of the homosexual population struggles with religious affiliation because of their sexual orientation. Many parent-teen conflicts arise from sexual issues. Even the terrorist attacks in recent years can be traced back to sex (They viewed America and other similar nations as immoral--mostly in the sexual sense).

.Really, people can't help but make sex a big deal without even realizing it. We immerse ourselves in it. We can't get enough of it. Sex controls advertising, television, films, the fashion industry, and the multi-million-dollar porn industry. Yet we can never stop talking about how bad it is. High Schools can force teens to watch films of mutilated corpses for the purpose of scaring them away from drunk driving (even though the corpses often have little to do with the subject). Yet, a high school would be sued out the wazoo if they tried to show the nude form or an artistic expression of a sexual act in school. And what is sex to be such a big deal? Fifteen minutes to an hour-and-a-half of moving about in a sweaty, awkward postition, uncomfortably close to another human being, working your way toward the common goal of a short, fleeting bliss. Not that sex is a bad thing, but... I'm just saying...

.Aggression, Freud said, was biological. Everyone has aggression. Aggression and discontent go hand in hand. When the level of discontent gets too high, our aggressive tendencies can become violent. Husbands kill their wives lovers over sex. Wives will kill their cheating husbands. In some cultures, adulterers and homosexuals are still executed for their actions. Speaking of homosexuals, the level of violent hate crime against them is very high. I think we've all heard of Mathew Shepard. And, once again, there are still those terrorist attacks.

.Ultimately, I'm of the opinion that Freud is not exactly wrong on these issues. The way he sees them is very much plausible. So, excuse me if I don't make fun of him with you.

.Basically.

 
   

 


 
 
articulator on
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Freud certainly broke tremendous ground in analyzing the psche, however I think ultimately he stopped furthering his ideas and instead began lobbying for them to be entrenched as truth forever and ever.

 

I believe part of the problem is that since Freud was an atheist, he couldn't allow himself to consider that perhaps there is something beyond our biology that affects our psyche.  And thus he was forced to explain everything he saw in very limited terms.

 

Jung, who believed in a spirit that existed seperate from the body was able to extend Freud's ideas into a body of work that I consider to be a much more complete understanding of the human psyche.  It's interesting to note that Jung agonized over publishing his own ideas because he knew that it would cost him his friendship with Freud and it did.  Freud did not tolerate dissenting opinons and when Jung propsed his own theories Freud more or less disowned him.

 

In case you haven't read much of Jung - and only his more "respectable" theories are taught in Universities these days, - then in a nutshell he proposed that each of us is undergoing a spiritual/psychological process called Individuation.  In psychological terms this process can be described as our inner SELF carrying out a process of reintegrating into our conscious self all of the attributes and experiences that we have repressed.  Anyway, it's interesting reading and I feel gives a much more viable explanation of who and what we are.

 

Take care. 

mrfictitious on
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.To be honest, I've avoided Jung in the past. To be so pretentious as to say that there are no new ideas and everything is an archetype or cliche makes me angry. I understand what he's saying... the connection between us all and everything... but it's still overly pretentious and annoying.

.But I'll look into it.

.Thanks.
mrfictitious on
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.Actually, I don't think Freud was an atheist. I think Freud wanted to be an atheist. Of course, I don't believe atheists exist at all. Agnostics, maybe, but atheists, no.
schencka on
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Oh, I'm an atheist.

I read your whole entry and enjoyed it. First, Freud's emphasis on sexuality tapered off; that was the early, shocking part of his career -- he started his fame when he argued that "hysteria" affected men as well as women. I prefer to think of Freud apart from the terminologies and more through how his analyses work, and how his writing actually shows you how to interpret pscyhological phenomena. That's why Freud is still current and importantt -- his analysis of culture, aggression, denial (his depth theories of the human mind) still hold true. The idea that every kid is messed up in the head because of childhood sexuality, not so much.
I read your entry as being between the time when you get to a community of well-read people, who would never discount Freud immediately and ignorantly, and where you are right now. So, keep reading. You'll find your situation.

But Jung isn't "in" anymore. His theories, I find, have a blurring effect -- he's more a cultural anthropologist who doesn't peer into the individual human subject. Archetype theory was hot in literary studies in the 1960s, before the close reading of Derrida's deconstruction hit the scene, and destroyed the generalizations of the archetypes and all that, as well as the "Moby Dick symbolizes America" type thing -- the generalization is the easy answer which is actually a lie.
babiluu on
Re: ."I could be your two-legged bandit."
I believe Freud was a successful contributor to psychology and his name has superceded his life, so, I believe you may be on to something. 

 

I believe, though, he was abusing the cocaine drug, which minimizes his credibility in the professional world, for some reason.  But, if you look back, coca-cola drinkers used cocaine, in the form of their soda drink.  It was used within their recipe to create addiction to use their product and became illegal, not too long ago.  So, if you ask me, most shouldn't judge.  But, if you ask me, his addiction to cocaine created sex-obsession and created his genious ability to obsess with the study.  I believe he was truly a genious, who succeeded at leading psychology in a very solid foundation of study, perhaps due to his geniusness on drugs.  But, I don't encourage anyone to follow suit, as brain cells are certainly destroyed.

 


 
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