Before I make this post, let me make it crystal clear: I am an atheist. I find religious belief to be illogical, unfounded, and ridiculous. I live in a world based in fact and logic, and will sooner say "I don't know" to unexplained phenomenon than "God did it!" It is a crumbling reservoir of obsolete explanations about the world, continually recycling and recombining the same tired old ideas. At any rate, there is one thing that many other atheists do that I absolutely, positively despise to no end: lumping all supernatural beliefs into an all-encompassing "RELIGION" label.

You've probably seen posts like this in blogs and social networking sites, where the atheist will blame all of the world's ills on "religion" or claim that the world would be hunky-dory if no religion was around. Well, it's bullshit, and here's why.

One of the most common claims one would come across is that the majority of the world's conflicts are caused by (the big word here) RELIGION (dun dun dunnnnn!!!!!!!). I guess the people that say that slept through the parts in history class about the American Revolution, the American Civil War, the Spanish-American War, World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and both Iraq Wars. Those are just the American wars religion had nothing to do with. In fact, you'd be hard-pressed to find a major religious war in modern history aside from the Crusades.

However, many smaller conflicts going on today are about religion. But is ALL religion to blame for these wars? Or is there perhaps one religion that is over-represented as far as world violence is concerned? Could there be a religion that has over 10,000 violent acts done in its name every year? How about a religion that demands women be punished for being raped, or encourages killing yourself for God? In case you haven't guessed, that religion is Islam. The vast majority of religious violence is done by Muslims in the name of Islam.

You can talk about abortion clinic bombings (when's the last time THAT's happened?) and the Westboro Baptist Church all you want, but the difference between Christianity and Islam is that mainstream Christian leaders for the most part condemn the occasional violence an extreme Christian sect will commit. Islamic violence, on the other hand, is given a wink and a nod by it's mainstream leaders. When others comment on their violent nature, they respond with violence.

Many Christian churches, Muslim Mosques, and Jewish Synagogues have a very positive impact on their communities. Some operate homeless shelters and soup kitchens. The Salvation Army is a religious organization. Linking Islamic extremist violence to these religions is the same black-and-white attitude that the extremists have. The belief that all religions are harmful is irrational. I don't go to bed at night worrying about Amish terrorists.
 
   

 


 
 
ubu13 on
Re: A Rationalist's Defense of Religion
Amish Terrorists?  Now you are getting close to "my people" ;~)

 

More seriously...no, I also believe there is a place for religion.  And it can help some folks and some folks need it.  I forget what Ben Franklin called himself, but that's about what I am also - maybe there is a God, but I won't know that until I am dead.  But I can do without organized religion.  My spouse is a Quaker, which is as close to religion as I will get these days.  But I know some truly good Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, etc. 

moralnihilist on
Re: A Rationalist's Defense of Religion
I believe the term is "deist."
ubu13 on
Re: A Rationalist's Defense of Religion
Yes, thanks for jogging this old brain.  Now, if I can just keep that term in there for a bit ;~)
robertncheek on
Re: A Rationalist's Defense of Religion
I have to add my two-cents to your post.

 

First, I agree with you. Although I consider myself religious, I am also a believer in fact and logic and despise organized religion and those who always end arguments with "God did it."

 

Certainly American history and the history of Western Civilization is one free of religious warfare- anyone studying history would have to agree.

 

Some smaller 'wars' are caused by religion, but the vast majority of them are caused by ethnic differences. These may be infused by religion as well. E.G. Two different ethnic groups may be at war and one is muslim and the other christian. Although religion is an aspect- the cause is the ethnic differences.

 

I would agree that if you pay attention to mainstream media, you would assume that muslims hold the vast majority of religious violence. but what we don't hear about anymore is the Christian only violence in Northern Ireland, or the Christian led cleansing in the Balkans, or the same in the former Russian republics, or the violence against Budhists by ethnic Han Chinese (the majority of which follow a loose Confuscious-ism or a religion based on ancestry) or Christians who are the aggressors against Muslims in Africa.

 

The flavor of the week/month/year/decade is Islamic violence but that does not mean they are the only culprits.

 

I would disagree with you about the mainstream support of violence as well. When, in the 90s, abortion clinic bombings and violence against the doctors or any Christian-based religious violence was given the same wink and nudge by the likes of Graham and Falwell that the Imams give to Islamic based violence. The Christian leaders come out and talk about how violence is bad and how we should act more Christianly but then they include the fact that the world would be better without abortionists and how murdering a murderer is not the same as an innocent victim and how its a terrible act but perhaps they victim deserved it. At least the Islamic leaders aren't being fake and saying that Mohammed does not call us to violence but sometimes violence is warrented.

 

Its all the same, organized religion- no matter what the religion is- is the same.

 

For the most part, the followers of any religion are god-fearing, peaceful people who want to do good and improve their world. The problem lies with the upper echelons of leadership and the extremists.

 

But your right. Lumping them together is the same extreme view that the terrorists have.

 

 


 
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