compassion
I've been meaning to stop by and say , "hi!" Are you okay?
Yes, fine, thanks, Spirit. My wife and I have been in Croatia for three weeks for our son's wedding and his daughter's baptism. Just got back Saturday. We weren't able to stay regularly in touch while we were out of the counry.
...nice to have you back...(safely!)
Thank you, Spirit.
The Kennedy family is proof that only the good die young.
The Kennedy family unselfishly gave away money that was hard earned by others while they lived off the public trough and power they had found a way to claim.
If it weren't for them there would be no sky, no sun, no rainbows.
I remember growing up and asking my Dad, "what is the meaning of life". He replied, "son, i don't know. the only worthwhile people are called Kennedys".
I remember growing up and asking my Dad, "what is the meaning of life". He replied, "son, i don't know. the only worthwhile people are called Kennedys".
You sound envious. I don't know what your dad meant. Ted Kennedy sure didn't act like the only worthwhile people are Kennedys.
i was being sardonic.
I'm sure Ted didn't think the only worthwhile people were Kennedys.
There were also bartenders, hookers, campaign donors, etc.
obviously, i'm joking.
but it is very difficult to be saddened for this type of person.
I don't know what it would be like to have one brother killed in war and two more brothers murdered. If it drove Ted to drink I consider it forgivable. As for Kopechne, because of the countless times I drove drunk in my early years and only avoided killing somebody out of sheer luck, I forgive him that, too, though it's not my place to do so. That's between him and the Kopechnes. We liberals could always count on Ted. He never backed down in his support of liberal causes. But he was just a media figure to me, not a personal acquaintance for whom I really grieve.
I am not going to judge him on drinking or his feelings about the deaths of his brothers (2 of which died publicly and videoed). I do know plenty of people who lost siblings at early ages and yes it affects them.
As for Kopechne...
He was not a "youth" when it happened. He was 37 years old. He was married with 3 kids. He was a US Senator for 7 years.
And he did not do all he could to save her as he was only thinking of himself.
Only Ted knows what happened.
no. that's not true
he testified what happened. his friends testified what happened (and their testimony was a little different than Teds).
this is the official record.
Now, it could be worse than that but this is the story Ted gave.
I thought Ted was the only person in the car other than the woman. If so, only he knows what happened. Right?
he is the only one that knows what happened between the time he left the party and the time made it back to the party.
however, the facts are...
they drove into the water.
he came out. she didn't
she was still alive for a while in the car
he didn't call the police or notify any authority for 9 hours
he went back to the party and passed several houses which he could of used their telephones.
the next day in the hotel he acted as if nothing happened.
how long he searched for her alone before going to search for her with his friends is not known.
he fucked up
truly.
and anyone else would have gone to jail or had a senate inquiry.
but it was just a footnote.
i dont think we have any disagreement about this incident
our disagreement is about liberalism
our disagreement is about liberalism
i don't undersatnd
where does liberalism come into play in this incident?
sorry, i don't follow
It was the subject of my original post and, I thought, the subject of your initial reply. No matter. He's dead and buried.
agreed
What happened to the politicians willing to use the phrases "common man", "injustice", and "equality"?
How about "public servant" or, better yet, "peace officer"?
Ted, like his late brothers, was a mixed bag. Yes, he did champion some decent legislation over the years that made life better for some less fortunate than most of us. While I was no fan of his, and certainly thought his career should have ended in 1969, I'll still give him props for what he did on behalf of those he tried to help. It doesn't make up for killing Mary Jo (what could?), but what he did also served, in some cases, to keep the poor down. Those are the unintended consequences of liberal politics. When you "go to bat for" the little guy, often what happens is the little guy never learns to bat for himself and he stays poor and underprivileged...and dependent on others. I'm sorry to say that's what the dems have largely done for the poor in America--led them to think the dems would be their salvation, yet the same problems that existed years ago persist (and are worse, in some cases) now: lousy education, crime, fatherless families, drug addiction, etc. I continue to be at a loss to explain why more of them haven't seen what a bad deal they've gotten at the hands of their "deliverers." Ted meant well, I'm sure, but the results are hard to ignore. It was well said before: "The bigotry of low expectations..." That's what a government that knows nothing else besides "what can we GIVE you?" will stand for. We've seen generation after generation come along in the course of Ted's life (and mine) for whom the concept of "self-sufficiency" is as foreign and unfathomable as partial differential calculus would be to the rest of us. They cannot conceive of living without someone else stepping in to provide a Kleenex if they should feel a sneeze coming on. When all you do is try to give away freebies in the name of "compassion", the recipients learn to expect it and will resort to calling anyone nasty names (those mean conservatives) who have the temerity to say, "Umm, have you even looked for a job lately?"
So Ted is gone, but not his game plan. Others are there to continue the giveaways. At any rate, I hope he finds rest somewhere in the Great Beyond, where Mary Jo resides still.
The misery you attribute solely to liberalism is hilarious. You propose teaching the poor to fish, I suppose. How funny. You Hannity types sound so frightened.
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