I'm feeling deflated now. I say that as though I was at one time filled with air, floating merrily amongst the clouds. Uh, I swear I just heard a wolf howl. I know for a fact that Australia is what I'd call a "wolf-free" country. That's what I get for living in Canberra.

She seems to be going through times no easier than she was as the beginning of the relationship. That is to say she has gotten worse. I'm wondering what she'll do to herself next. It worries me. I don't feel as though this is something under my control, nor would I wish it were so. I only want to be with her. I don't want to be for her. She needs herself, and only herself. What happens next though? How does she heal from the wounds she bears already? I've suggested that she talk to someone. Someone who has an education. Someone other than me. I only finished college, which some of you call high school. Besides, I'm biased.
I don't want this again. I just want them to look after themselves. I gess the first two did. They ditched me. Ha. That's a depressing, although curiously eye opening, thought.

I'd like to talk to my exs. Old friends. Old enemies, sometimes. It's sad, but I don't know how. I don't even know their numbers, some of them. What do I do then? I know there are phone books. I know where some of them live. Is that enough? Maybe. I'll have to remember tomorrow.
There was something important that I remembered this morning but can't recall. Very important. I'm a mess. What was it?

The thing that dominates my mind right now is how she is going to react when she reads this. I bet she doesn't talk to me for hours and when I finally call her she acts as though nothing is wrong, or tries to hide it and doesn't tell me most of the problem. I can only think of how much time that will take, and the way she does it every time something goes wrong. Does anyone have any hints? How do I deal with this, I wonder.

I've grown so much since my first girlfriend. It's strange thinking of things that I used to do. Things I've grown out of, or ways that I've changed mentally. My perception of my surroundings has changed dramatically. I don't feel like a kid anymore. I just feel like someone who has yet to find where they belong. I wonder when that'll happen. It doesn't matter yet. It will happen.

Just another post on the all-mighty Internet. Let's see how it does.

"But if you really want to live/Why not try and Make Yourself"

I wonder, if she breaks will she heal the right way? I wonder if there will be cracks in the pottery. Beauty in imperfection seems to be a common theme these days. Will it suit her?

-Mitch
 
   

 


 
 
nutarella13 on
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Luckily, the third one is different. I'm sure she can fix herself and stay with you. That is if you'll keep her around for a bit longer.
Do you have e-mail address'? MindSay accounts? Friends of theirs that are friends of yours that might have their numbers?
Something to do with work? Um...study?... friends?.... parties?.... houses?..... pets?... dream?
I was with her when she read this. She seemed ok. Hints? Ask her once, if she says nothing just leave it. If its really that upsetting it'll come out later when she's ready to talk about it. Well, thats my theory anyway.
Good luck with her. Seems like you need it.
mishoni on
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She is capable of doing whatever she puts her mind to. It's just whether she does or not.

I'll keep thinking about that.

And that.

I thought of that one. I don't get her at lot of the time.

Ouch. Thanks.

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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hello.
mishoni on
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This is a surprise! Hello, yourself. [insert smiley here]

What brings you here?

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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avoiding doing boring assignments, the usual.

how're you
mishoni on
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I'm great. Got a few questions but they can wait. *smiles* How you doing? Still at CIT? I've...moved on. Not to bigger, nor better things, sadly. Still, things are looking brighter. You can tell if you read my posts.

Tell me something. Something that has changed.

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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i am still at CIT, but doing remedial massage now. a lot tougher than the last course.

yeah, i read you were overseas. sounds fun. everyone seems to be heading there lately.

something that has changed... um. i sold delta beginning of this year. found out recently she has some cancerous lumps, but she's ok, she's on stuff to fend them off.

other than that, not much. dirt poor and my car needs tyres... w00t.

you?
mishoni on
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Remedial massage? I was looking at those massage courses and thought they'd be pretty cool. Something a lot different from b.s like economics or politics.

You sold Delta? Your baby? Far out. That surprised me. I'm glad to hear she is okay, even if not perfect.

Overseas is awesome. It almost feels like it never happened though. I was so coddled though. That tour was so classy and rich.

Dirt poor? That hasn't changed, haha. *smiles* You've got a car? What type?

Mm, as for me...well there is the new (I hope!) job with the APS. The old job was new to you though. Security Phone Monkey. Hah. I can't think of anything else, really. All I can say is read the posts.

Is your phone number still the same? I just checked it and I still remember it...it's okay though. I remember the number for our Narooma patrol guard as well. I must just be good with numbers.

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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yeah, the course is full on. just about to be tested on all the muscles. i can now recite all the bones and all their bumps and lumps and i'm almost there with most of the muscles. and this is the easy semester. next semester is when it actually gets hard so they tell us :S

yeah i sold her, just didn't have enough time between work study and social life. i only sold her to a good family tho. they had a shit horse who they wanted to replace, so they think she's god's gift. i like them.

yeah, only been poor since i came back to study. i very cleverly decided to go up to bris  for a week with my  boy and we blew almost 2K between us. i spent all the money i saved. ah well. i'm managing . it's just a ford laser. 1986. 2 months older than me. but my bike atm is 2 years older than me, so that's fun. selling it tho to get a better one.

you went on a tour overseas? those things never appealed to me that much...
mishoni on
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Reciting all the bones and muscles? Jeez...no thanks.

I'm glad that she has gone to a good family. I liked her when I met her. She's a cool horse.

You two spent 2k in Brisbane in a week? I only spent 1k in Italy in two and a half!
The tour was loads of fun. I'd rather go backpacker-style but it wasn't my choice. The people on the tour were great, and there were lots of chances to explore on our own. It is good to have guidance, and we appreciated the towns and cities more, but I wanted to find some nightclubs...

As long as they still run. A bike and a car though? I thought it was one or the other, but if you've got the money then why not?

No comment on your phone number? I'll take the hint.

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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well, we both got our scuba licenses and when we went to seaworld he scuba'd in the shark tank and i swam with the seals. these things aren't cheap. plus accomodation.

the bike has just been given to me as an early b'day present. the car i've had for about a year now.

so what were these aforementioned questions?
mishoni on
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SCUBA? Cool.

Oh yeah, your birthday is coming up in a few months.

I never mentioned any questions. Try again?

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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"'m great. Got a few questions but they can wait."
mishoni on
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So maybe I did...haha, stupid me!

The one that I've had for a while is "Why, months ago, did you blow up at me on GTalk and carry on and then not talk to me until now?" I didn't understand what I'd done. I know I didn't take the end very well but...it was surprising.

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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i don't remember. when are you talking about? prob cause i was still pissed at you for the "didn't take the end very well" part. i don't think you actually understood what you had done wrong.
mishoni on
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What I had done wrong? You mean you being upset with me, or the end?

I don't quite remember. I know I pushed you for something you didn't want, and then got cut at you reaction afterwards. That was after the end though.

I'm referring to a time about a month...maybe three weeks afterwards. You were on GTalk I think. Said you were in Melbourne. I made a comment about elephants and you swore at me then didn't talk to me again. Until now.

That's the best that I remember it. What do you think?

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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i mean ultimately the reason i broke up with you.

yes, i remember you pushing me for that too and me telling you to shove it. i kind of think i was justified, in hindsight, don't you?

sounds about right. *shrugs* it was over a year ago hon, i can't really remember.
mishoni on
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You mean me trying to impose my will upon almost every aspect of your life?

You thought you were justified then, too.

A pity. I've been wondering since then why you blew up at me.

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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yes, there was that. there was also imposing sex on me when you knew i didn't want it. especially when you knew what happened with Scotty the first time i had sex. that really fucked me up mitch.

you don't think i was justified?
mishoni on
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"..and then he realised that he hadn't changed that much."

I never even thought if that. I was too busy trying to interpret your reason. You know, the one that didn't make any sense at the time.

I don't know how much I'd have changed if you'd taken another tact(tack?). Likely not a great deal. I don't know if it was best, but it stopped you from being hurt further. I hope.

*shrugs* It's done now, and what's past is past.

If you feel like talking about it any further I'd rather not discuss it here. That's up to you though. You know how to contact me. I'm still not comfortable initiating conversation with you.

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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i don't think i'm comfortable talking to you at all other than online where there's no face to face contact.

you talk as though it was all good and for my benefit, and that you were being so benevolent in not pursuing anything so i wouldn't be "hurt further". i honestly don't believe that for a second. you DID pursue it, i had the bruise on my back for nearly 2 weeks where you shoved me into a door handle.

nothing you've said on here conveys any sort of regret or apology to me. and when i broke up with you, the only thing you were was immature and nasty. so when you come on here being all high and mighty and mature and full of your own ego, i don't believe it for a second.
mishoni on
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Then we won't talk. That's your choice to make.

You misunderstand. I've never once said that I did the right thing. "I don't know if it was best, but it stopped you from being hurt further. I hope." I referred to you breaking up with me. Not anything I've done.
I talked about you possibly handling it differently, and what that'd have meant. Again, nothing about my 'benevolence'.

How am I being high and mighty or full of myself? That doesn't make sense. I'm talking about the past, not telling you all of your mistakes. I already said what you did may well have been for the best. That doesn't sound like I'm so great. It sounds like you got rid of me and that was a good idea.
It seems like you're upset because you didn't get an apology.

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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yes. i DO want an apology. and i hope to god you've learnt and don't do what you did to anyone else.

how should i have handled it differently? tell me please how'd you'd have prefered i'd handled it. mitch, everytime you touched me after that i was uncomfortable and wanted you to stop. and then when i DID, you behaved in the way you did. so how would you have preferred i'd handled it?
mishoni on
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I haven't meant to suggest that you should have handled it differently. If I did then I'm sorry for the confusion. Rather, I said I wondered what might've happened if you'd done it in another way. That's all. I was wondering.

I don't mind the way you handled it. Besides, it's in the past.

That second paragraph is unclear.

You don't need to get so upset.

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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mitch, you took sex when you knew i didn't want it. that's verging on sexual assault.

and you're still not apologising. for anything.
mishoni on
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On the contrary, I apologised for any confusion.

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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right. well, in that case. I apologise for any conversation which i initiated. i won't make the mistake again. goodbye.
mishoni on
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You're going to cut of all ties (such as they exist) just because you didn't get an apology you expected me to know you wanted? That seems immature.
Not to mention the way you made known your desire for said apology. You pointed out that you hadn't gotten an apology you never said you wanted, then became angry when I didn't react favourably to your behaviour.
That's like going to dinner at someone's house, demanding to know where your glass of milk is before asking for one, then becoming upset when they don't get you a glass of milk because of your demands.

I'm certain that this is more important to you than a glass of milk, but because of your behaviour this is not the case for me.

Take care, whatever you decide to do.

-Mitch
godenvyhim on
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in my opinion you raped me. that IS more than a glass of milk yes. the fact that you seem to not care at all about this let alone regret any of it appalls me to be honest. and as such i am perfectly happy to "cut off all ties" again. i don't want to know someone like that, even if it was "in the past". some damage doesn't ever go away.
mishoni on
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I don't care for your behaviour, that's all. When someone asks or demands an apology I'll almost never give one straight away. I think it's rude.

As far as regret goes I don't regret a past action if I can change my behaviour so it doesn't happen again, or if I can learn from a mistake. Treating you the way that I did, taking away your choice (which I did more than once, in more than one way) was a mistake. I don't expect you to see it as coldly as I do, nor should you, but if you want an apology you'll have to wait for that.

We think about things differently, and it had a more personal impact upon you than it did upon me. I'm not happy in the least that you're so upset by anything that I've done, and I empathise. However, I don't regret anything. I hope you understand what I mean.

-Mitch

 
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