we each define words for ourselves...
and the more we hear words and the more we see them, the clearer those definitions become... sure we largely use others' definitions to influence and define ours', but we pick and choose whose definitions we believe... we need to better define words... we need to teach immutable definitions to these words we use so immutably, so irretractably...


perhaps there are too many words... perhaps there is too little instruction... too many are too intimidated by the scope of words... by their sheer numbers... a comprehensive knowledge of words seems only for the "elite"... the geeks... the scientists... the privileged few... the gifted few... but we all have comparable brains... we are all gifted...


everyone should have an understanding of every word at their disposal... every word in their arsenal... to not be aware of such things is a crime. words are the most important and useful things we can know. they define us... and we define them...


we evolved from wordless beasts... we have become wordful beasts... and until we evolve into uber-zen-enlightened-guru-mofos, we will need our words... we must learn to interpret our symbols better... a red light should be as a brick wall... the word "love" should be as a mountain... or an ocean... we must learn to relate each word to a feeling... a unique feeling, but a shared one...


we totally miss the mark with our words... as symbols we misinterpret them because there is no uniform, clear interpretation... as tools we misuse them out of an ignorance in ways to maximize their efficiency... it is like possessing a great wealth but having nothing to spend it on... we need to share the wealth... the few who have it must share it constantly... how can someone spend fifteen years in a "school" and come out of it talking like a fucking idiot? our "schools" are broken... our "societies" are broken... our "civilization" is broken... but words can fix them all...

words are not hollow, unimpressive, intangible things-- when they are sincere... but we must mutually understand the meaning of sincerity before we can come to practise it with each other... we must understand what we are doing in order to act efficiently... words lead to comprehesion (in tribes such as ours'-- maybe not so much on individual levels...) and words express comprehension... the understanding of words should be passed down and augmented through the generations... like electricity, steel-- things like that... instead words just breed more words while peoples' understanding of them remains constantly stunted... literacy rates are misleading... most people scrape by with a handful of words... how can we express the calleidoscope of thoughts in our mad, mad brains with a handful of words??

it’s like trying to portray a world of colour in black and white... it’s like trying to play a game of soccer with a stone... it's like trying to fuck with your pants on... those are words we can all understand, no doubt.
 
   

 


 
 
RipHerToShreds on
Re: a little semantics

Agreed. Wholeheartedly. It can seem like such a trivial matter, but really, it's a problem of seemingly enormous capacity. And I guess that's it, isn't it - "capacity". There appears to be very little "capacity" in so many to retain much beyond the very caveman basics needed to "get by" and communicate just short of grunts and wild gestures. I tend to listen very carefully, and believe it or not, I tend to listen more than I speak when I'm out-and-about. Thus, it never fails to baffle me, how unresourceful a great deal of folks are when it comes to language. Too many words? Maybe. But aren't they more beautiful, in and of themselves, than just about anything else on the planet? A single word can breathe life into what would otherwise be a dull sentence, and likewise a single word can transform a nondescript piece of information into something catastrophically tragic. The mere "sound" of some is musical, while others fall on the ears exactly as they are intended to - grating, harsh, and succinct. And yet with all of this inherent in the use of them, too many people use too few of the same boring words over and over, repetitively, and there is no beauty or intrigue in their speech as a result. It's sad, really, and maybe that's why I enjoy some of the authors that I do; reading their thoughts and ideas is enjoyable not only for the information contained therein, but also for the rhythm and seamless flow that emanates.

 

It would be interesting to hear you expound a bit further on your statement: "...a unique feeling, but a shared one". It sounds like a difficult point to arrive at, all things considered, but if I know you even a little by now, I'm sure you've got plenty more where that came from. And again, too many words? I don't think that's possible, really, wonderful tools that they are, but too little instruction? Most definitely. Perhaps therein lies the bulk of the problem. I do recall being absolutely appalled all throughout school, from elementary onward, at how little attention was paid to proper spelling and grammar. After all, isn't that where everything stems from? Aren't words and their meaning(s) what it's all about, at the end of the day? Don't words and a varied vocabulary trump even Mathematics and Physics, considering that even those important disciplines couldn't exist without our beloved words?

 

I wonder, frequently, in fact, how so many people get by using so few of the words at their disposal. I would think it terribly frustrating and maddening to have so little to express the vast range of emotions one can feel even in a single hour. I myself would be a slave to the thesaurus if it weren't for the likes of Ayn Rand, Henry Miller, etc., etc. Along with the lack of interest in a wider vocabulary is quite often the lack of interest in literature, as well. That always saddens me, too. In words, and in books as collections of words, can be found entire parallel realities; they can be bent or perceived for the purposes of escapism or a deeper and more purposeful reality. The choice is up to the individual. I couldn't imagine a life without those capabilities at my fingertips. But is the joy found in these things something that can be taught in school? Or is it birthed with the individual? I suppose you could have a debate and find ample support for either view. Personally, however, I think that it could, for the most part, be imparted via education. Not in every case, but in most. If it could somehow be effectively relayed how much awaits in-between the covers of the millions of books available throughout the world, perhaps then the curiosity could be stirred. For now, however, too many educational institutions, both compulsory and secondary, mandate a set-forth list of books to be read and examined, with (so it seems, anyway) very little thought given to individual preferences and interests. For those students that struggle with the concept of reading period, this must seem daunting and punishing indeed. Then all too often they graduate and have no use for literature - or the words contained within. Perhaps more scary is that this is the rule, rather than the exception. Or so the widespread lack of expressive vocabulary would lead you to believe.

lebedev on
Re: a little semantics
nice...  i love your love of words...  i'm not surprised by the fact that you're a listener first...  you probably loathe having to "dumb yourself down" while conversing and you are probably adept at sifting through typical talk to find eloquent sentiments coarsely expressed as though you were panning for gold in riverbed muck...  you probably like to expound on the essence of what others just touch upon, and complete half-assededly-articulated thoughts and observations...  have you ever tried writing poetry?  you should try...

when i said "... a unique feeling, but a shared one..." i just meant that there shouldn't be multiple words to express identical "feelings"...  that each word should have sole ownership of that which it symbolizes, and that that symbolism should be spelled out and understood concretely, to avoid the possibility of words being used as tools to manipulate and mislead...  each word should symbolize something that no other word symbolizes, and everyone should be able to relate to the unique feeling expressed by each unique word...  clear as riverbed muck?

words are the foundation of every useful achievement on the planet, i'd say...  even if half the population attained enlightenment, what good would that do unless they were able to communicate their success to others in order to effectuate some positive end?  what good is enlightenment if we do not ensure our children have the opportunity to attain it?  words should be able to communicate all successes and all failures to all... 

anything that can be learned can be taught to anybody...  "it is our nature to be nurtured"...    schools teach most kids to fear words/learning/change because they equate such things to work-- hard, tedious, pointless work...  most kids, largely inspired by the examples set forth by their adult mentors, are led to believe that materials and experiences are far more rewarding/tangible than knowledge, not realizing that within materialism and experience there is simply a clearly circumscribed amount of knowledge...  kids/people are too intimidated by the breadth of knowledge, so they unconsciously limit themselves and close many doors, realizing that time and freedom are fleeting...  shitty, eh?  perhaps some of this is due to a lack of self-confidence and an urge to fit in at all costs...  if fitting in meant being an explorer and a visionary, we'd blow each other away with a consistency that would evoke a constant reverence and humble respect for all life...  we'd revel in the possibilities that interaction  and learning afforded us, and we'd never become lazy, jaded, or indifferent...  if vision was deemed to be the highest form of attainment, we would make each other rich, we'd become a self-sustaining yet constantly evolving pool of knowledge from which everyone would drink and into which everyone would pour their hearts...        
ciellauren on
Re: a little semantics
"how can we express the calleidoscope of thoughts in our mad, mad brains with a handful of words??"
impossible, to say the least
bluesense on
Re: a little semantics
I've never heard of lebedev.  So, I opted to do a search to find out if it were a word that I had not yet heard and required a definition or whatever.

 

I found this:

 

http://www.artlebedev.com/studio/

 

LOL.  Look at them!  What a scary bunch, I'll say!

lebedev on
Re: a little semantics
lol...  scary indeed, though i'm sure they'd be interesting to share a couple glasses of vodka with...  Lebedev is a character from Fyodor Dostoevsky's "The Idiot"...  he's not the protagonist, antagonist, or the idiot, but he struck me as the definitive characterization of every-man...  by calling myself lebedev, i'm simply saying that i'm just another random dude...  i don't exemplify the traits of the character lebedev, but i am a man like any other, and he is the model of the modern man...  or something to that effect...  what compelled you to use "bluesense" as a moniker?
bluesense on
Re: a little semantics
bluesense = that intuition an officer can tune into; having sense that you know more than you lead on about.

 

 

 

blue  can also be interpreted as (BILU = But. I. Love. You.)  It's rather very hidden joke inside for me and mindsay.  Mindsay has been known to be very unusual at times and I've often caught blame for things that I have not done.  So, I thought it was sort of funny to use what I had read before, "But, I love you."

lebedev on
Re: a little semantics
cool...  intuition is handy...  it goes well with doubt i find...
bluesense on
Re: a little semantics
Interesting find...

lebedev on
Re: a little semantics
it's true (and if not true, sincere (see what i mean about doubt?))...  there's a fine line between intuition and assumption, and like most fine lines, it's a cunt to discern...  sure, doubt can confuse things further, but don't you consider doubt to be valuable?  i'm willing to believe there are people with consistently accurate intuitions, but the more specific intuitions get, the more they begin to resemble assumptions, non?  vague/generalized intuition (eg: being able to tell whether someone is overtly good or not) can be useful, but only to a point...  when intuition gets more specific, what justifications are there to have faith in it?  precedence?  every event in the present is unprecedented though...  (btw, i never ask an insincere question, though my questions may at times be shrouded by the cheekiness of emotion...)

 
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