I am a Sergeant in the United States Marine Corps. I
>> am currently on my second tour in Iraq, a tour in
>> which I volunteered for. I speak Arabic and Spanish
>> and I plan to tackle Persian Farsi soon. I have a
>> Bachelors and an Associates Degree and between
>> deployments I am pursuing an M.B.A. In college I was a
>> member of several academic honor societies, including
>> the Golden Key Honor Society. I am not unique among
>> the enlisted troops. Many of my enlisted colleagues
>> include lawyers, teachers, mechanics, engineers,
>> musicians and artists just to name a few. You say that
>> your comments were directed towards the President and
>> not us. If we were stupid Senator Kerry, we might have
>> believed you.
>>
>> I am not a victim of President Bush. I proudly serve
>> him because he is my Commander and Chief. If it was
>> you who was President, I would serve you just as
>> faithfully. I serve America Senator Kerry, and I am
>> also providing a service to the good people of Iraq. I
>> have not terrorized them in the middle of the night,
>> raped them or murdered them as you have accused me of
>> before. I am doing my part to help them rebuild. My
>> role is a simple one, but important. You see Senator
>> Kerry, like it or not, we came here and removed a
>> tyrant (who terrorized Iraqis in the middle of the
>> night, and raped them and murdered them). And we have
>> a responsibility to see to it that another one doesn't
>> take his place. The people of Iraq are recovering from
>> an abusive relationship with a terrible government and
>> it's going to take some time to help them recover from
>> that. We can't treat this conflict like a microwave
>> dinner and throw a temper tantrum because we feel like
>> it's taking too long.
>>
>> Senator Kerry, you don't have to agree with this war.
>> You don't have to say nice things about those of us
>> who choose to make sacrifices for the rights of every
>> American rather than sit back and simply feel entitled
>> to it. But please Senator Kerry, if you're going to
>> call me a stupid murdering rapist, stick by what you
>> say. Don't tell me that I misunderstood or that you
>> would never insult a veteran because you're one too.
>> Having been there and done that does not give you a
>> free pass to insult me.
>>
>> My suggestion for you, Senator Kerry, is to remember
>> that your speeches are recorded, and broadcast to us
>> simpletons over here. You may want to write down what
>> you want to say before you say it, maybe have somebody
>> look at it before you say it and tell you what others
>> might hear. Remember that we can't read your mind, if
>> there are any misinterpretations in what you say, it's
>> because you didn't communicate clearly.
>>
>> Good luck to you Senator Kerry, if nothing else it's
>> always entertaining to watch you try and climb out of
>> the holes that you constantly dig for yourself.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Somebody who is watching his daughter grow up in
>> photographs so that you can have the right to say
>> whatever you want about him.
True, that. You know, for all the howling about feigned concern for "teh troops" from the left, they really do look down on them, as evidenced by Kerry's statement. It's almost as bad as how they view minorities and the poor, like pawns in a game to be despised and used to political gain. (Not that the GOP is much better on some of those counts.)
The sad part is that the petty Bolsheviks despise the very people who tolerate the insults and misuse in peace time, but they make the troops do so even more while protecting those who offend them.
I'm still a little confused how tossing a generation of servicemen and women into a meat grinder with no clearly defined or supported reason why, as well as a complete lack of plan on getting out of the aforementioned meat grinder, leads to a "concern for 'teh troops.'"
Oh, I'm sorry, I notice that I don't have enough personal attacks on Republicans in my post. Do I need to make those? I could call Republicans 'fascists' if you'd like (as in people who would abandon the rule of law for mob rule), I could comment on how the GOP polarizes voters by appealing to the lowest common denominator, or I could comment on how the Republicans preach 'small government' out of one side of their mouths all the while seeking to legislate every aspect of personal and private behavior with which they don't agree (or rather with which the religious contingent of their party's base doesn't agree). But, then, I don't actually believe that all of the Republicans can be painted with such a broad brushstroke.
...probably just those that call Democrats 'Bolsheviks' and claim that we don't care about people.
I'm still a little confused how tossing a generation of servicemen and women into a meat grinder with no clearly defined or supported reason why, as well as a complete lack of plan on getting out of the aforementioned meat grinder, leads to a "concern for 'teh troops.'"
Note that I said "feigned concern." After Kerry's comments (and some others), I don't think this "false concern" concept needs elaboration. I'm also not quite sure how 150,000 is a "generation" of servicemembers. I would agree that we are losing in Iraq, but not because we have to; the irony of a loss in Iraq is that it will be caused by our politically correct ideals, not by some overwhelming, unbeatable force in Iraq? Why else is Fallujah still standing? Why is Sadr still alive?
Oh, I'm sorry, I notice that I don't have enough personal attacks on Republicans in my post. Do I need to make those? I could call Republicans 'fascists' if you'd like (as in people who would abandon the rule of law for mob rule),
And you might be surprised at how little I disagree with you there. Unfortunately, the GOP figured out that mob rule was what kept the Dems in power for 50 years, and decided it wanted a piece of the action. The Dems are the masters at this, having done it for decades, but, unfortunately, now they're both doing it.
I could comment on how the GOP polarizes voters by appealing to the lowest common denominator,
Ever see an ad targeting senior citizens' or welfare recipients' benefits to get them to pull the Dem lever, or is that just a PA thing? Ever see the AARP use fear as they shill for the Dems? On principle, you're right, but let's be bipartisan in slinging vitriol.
or I could comment on how the Republicans preach 'small government' out of one side of their mouths all the while seeking to legislate every aspect of personal and private behavior with which they don't agree (or rather with which the religious contingent of their party's base doesn't agree).
And so it all comes down to legislating personal behavior. Actually, sexual behavior is more accurate, and I have yet to hear anyone telling you that you can't sleep with someone. That they are not willing to create an artificial sacrament (tantamount to lifestyle pork barrel, if you will) is not equivalent to having sodomy laws.
But, then, I don't actually believe that all of the Republicans can be painted with such a broad brushstroke.
Good for you, and I congratulate you on being in that minority.
...probably just those that call Democrats 'Bolsheviks' and claim that we don't care about people.
I love this part. Thank you for brining it up. This is a clipping from the "Communist Manifesto." I hope the "Bolshevik Democrats" line makes sense to you now. Enjoy...
The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.
Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are
unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.
These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.
Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally
applicable:
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.
When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character. Political power, properly so called, is merely the organised power of one class for oppressing another. If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organise itself as a class, if, by means
of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class.
Marx could run as a Democrat comfortably today. Liberal is a euphamism for petty socialism of Communism in this day and age.
What meat grinder Boo? Why you bitching anyway, you ain't about to be brave enough to join up are you?
Shit, a hell of a lot more people die needless deaths right here in the good old US of A every year than die in Iraq, so why you whining?
♥ Wendy
...because I have the right to express an opinion, no matter how unpopular you may find it, and that right comes not from military service but from being a citizen of this country and a human being?
Why does unnecessary death at home excuse unnecessary death abroad?
she never said you did not have the "right". Your not being willing to serve is a valid point. I have always said that if you want to know what peace or freedom is, ask the combat marine not the hippie. The marine knows in a tangible way what it takes to secure these things. The hippie knows absolutely nothing.
I may not always see eye to eye with your delivery or content, but sometimes you are just SO spot on.
I may not always see eye to eye with your delivery or content, but sometimes you are just SO spot on.
My father served in the Pacific theater, and my uncles in Europe in WWII. I live in a city of three military bases and know many fathers and sons who have served or are serving in Iraq. I am curious to know why 95% of the soldiers I talk to have opinions contrary to yours. The men of Fort Carson, Colorado, Home to the 3rd BCT, 43rd ASG, 3rd ACR, 5th Armored Brigade, 13th Air Support Operations Squadron, and the 10the Special Forces Group, in the majority, do not agree with your position. Also, my uncles see this conflict as having nothing to do with protecting our freedoms.
I would expect your highly valued skills are not wasted on sending you out into the streets of Iraq with a gun... where the clearest picture of what is happening can be witnessed.
I would be curious to hear you elaborate on your own personal ideals which justify our invasion and occupation as I, and many others, fail to see how this ununited effort is "protecting our rights".
I am uncertain whether your reply was directed to the poster of this blog or whether you are addressing me. I say this because your reply seemed to be very specific to a very general statement I made to the poster of this blog. Because, according to the Mindsay format, it appears as though you are responding to me. Therefore,if this is the case, how can you make assumptions as to whether my "highly valued skills" are wasted or not? In my statement, I was non - specific on purpose. As such, I will maintain my specific views on the topic as personal, and directed to the poster of this blog. I do not feel compelled to justify my specific views to you or anyone unless I choose to do so, at which time, I will do so. I say this not because I lack conviction in my opinions. Rather, I prefer to not argue politics with someone whose mind already appears made up, and who seems to have an ax to grind, as evidenced by your well rehearsed " talking points" in your first paragraph, none of which coincide with MY experiences.
Ha! And you call me well rehearsed. Of course any discourse which does not involve supporting or praising your views is immediatly pidgeonholed into the "axe to grind" category. I suppose it is a military tactic to identify me as a combatant without just cause, but only to serve your own purposes. Anyway, I wonder how busy in wartime you can actually be if you are able to respond to me so quickly. ??? I think you are an imposter.
AGAIN you are making erroneous assumptions about me. An imposter of WHAT, exactly? I never claimed to be in the military. As an American, however, I am, indeed, " involved" in wartime ( as an opinionated civilan). As an American, concerned for her country, my opinions are as credible as any other Americans. What on EARTH does responding quickly have to do with anything? I have absolutely no problem with anyone who disagrees with me, but it should be noted that it was not ME who went on the attack with responses....your " factoids" reflect what you WANT to hear and believe, this is quite evident. Most people I know tend to gravitate to things they WANT to hear and you are no different. Neither am I, which is why I liked this blog so much. I think I will choose to take it as a compliment that you have insinuated that I am using " military tactic"s ( having enormous respect for our military) but again I stress, YOU identified YOURSELF as a combatant ( with all too obvious cause) by your response to my reply to the poster! Pot calling the kettle black, dear. And as for the " only to serve your own purpose" statement, no deliberate disrespect intended, but I have to laugh at that one. Do you HONESTLY believe that we don't all act in manners that serve our own purposes? Don't try self righteousness on people until you take a long, LONG look at your own words. Having said all of that, we don't agree. Ducky! Not a problem for ME, so good luck to ya and all who sail in ya... but I've said what I have to say. Anything further would simply be redundant. If you choose to try to continue along this thread, you must play nicely with yourself. Finis.
At what point did you enter into this conversation? It is ridiculous for you to just walk in and begin responding to me on comments I made to leaning.
What is more ridiculous is for someone to not understand that if they want to respond to the POSTER of this blog, they need to hit the correct " reply " button, which is clearly indicated on the color bar above each person's response. Please note that I am not the one who has responded to the incorrect person, the possibility of which was stated in my first response to YOU, had you been astute enough to use simple reading comprehension. YOU dragged me into this dialogue by replying to MY initial response to Leaning. If it appears in MY inbox, a reasonable person can dedeuce that the response was directed to ME. If you can't grasp the concept of how to reply to the person you were intending to boggle with your intellect ( rolls eyes at this point), then YOU, dear, seem quite more the ridiculous party than I do. To " re - cap", next time, try to respond to the correct person or at least READ/LISTEN to what others have to say before shooting your mouth off.
Thank you.
I will save your comment for posterity under the heading of PEDANT.
... and of course, still no attribution for the undisclosed source letter.
Hey, whatever floats your boat, mate. And I will save yours under the heading of POMPOUS. Thats you, calling the kettle black agaion. Have a good day.. play nice, now!
Un-freekin-believable... you saying "play nice" when you haven't a shred of modulation or discipline in your comments to me. Communication with you is impossible.
And yet you keep doing it! If you recall ( pedantically, of course), I was responding to LEANING with my first reply on this post. YOU erred and sent a rather challenging and confrontational reply to me. I responded, in kind, to your response to me, and AGAIN you erred, responding to me AGAIN, apparently still not realizing your initial error. I responded to you AGAIN. You addressed me today as " ridiculous" and then referred to me as " pedant", all because of the fallout of YOUR original error and you now continue a pointless and by now VERY tedious dialoge with ME, further denigrating me for something YOU were mistaken about in the first place! Not only is that bizarre, it is amusing the Hell out of me as I type this. Heres an idea, dear... STOP COMMUNICATING and go tell Leaning how wrong he is about everything - and leave me out of your pretentious banter.
I will apologize for the confusion, but not for the commentary, which you could have easily bowed out of at any time, but chose to continue. (???)
I am sorry for the confusion. I admit that I did notice the shift from leaning to you, but assumed it was your playing field. I am not faultless and err as much as anyone. Ok.
Upon further reflection, I realized that the greater issue here became one of attribution. That is my point.
You will notice that I am tired of this ultimately unproductive trading of words. I don't know you, but am sure you are a fine person. So, at 6pm MST I will be removing todays blog entry in its entirety.
Pablo
I might have bowed out, had I been clear about to whom you were responding in the first place, which I have only discovered as I logged in a short time ago this evening and saw your "ridiculous" comment to me. At that point, my pique ( and amusement) were sparked and I thought it best to point out your initial error. See how well I communicate? ( Good natured elbow to your rib here). I appreciate the partial apology - however a halfway apology hardly seems sincere - but if that is all you can render, then I will be gracious and say " thank you". And thank you for guessing the truth. I AM a fine person.. delightful, even! Too bad that we both rankled each other, reasoned discourse is SO much more stimulating. I do agree in that we are now unproductively trading words, and I propose that we both toddle off on our merry ways, and just consider this the minorest bump in the road of life.
I am curious as to how you come across the figure of "95%". Do 95% of soldiers vote for anti war politicians? Did 95% of them vote for Kerry or Gore? Please tell me, where did you get this figure from. why don't you "elaborate"?
Let us recap.
I wrote to you with supplying you with information to illustrate what has informed my present opinion. It can not be shown that I was antagonistic. I asked one question of you. In your response you preferred to take a tone of being defensive. I was not, and am not fishing for a battle of misnomers and wit.
In direct response to your question(s), I remind you of a simple fact and distinction. Our elected leaders are not placed in their positions to be served, they are there to serve the people. The majority of this country, civilian citizens, do not take an oath to follow the orders of a commander in chief, and therefore do not serve him and his orders.
If you prefer to continue to answer simple questions with demands for statistical analysis on points which were already clearly explained, then you will be preaching to the choir.
Perhaps I should refer you to my cousin who was an Arabic interpreter intellegence officer for the US Army.
that answers my question???
Recall, I stated "... 95% of the soldiers I talk to..."
You also answered a question I did not ask being: Are you really a credentialed academic because it is not evident in your responses.
There seems to be no value in your "95%" at all since all other sources of data say that military folk lean sharply right of center and toward the republican party. You seem to think that your "95%" is representative of the miltary. Why else would you have said it?
You rely on your special interest group statistics and I will rely on my personally conducted ones. The density of your misunderstanding is only rivaled by your persistence in supporting a ideology which will be bled tonight by the will of the people.
i am sorry. which "special interest" group did I reference? are you saying that 95 percent of military folk agree with you or not?
leaning, perhaps it is just the Colorado branch of the military that is leaning left???

i doubt that.

so now i know where your Father and Uncles served (Thank You Very Much to Them)...just where did you serve??????
good question. I am amused by how people think that because they know or are related to those who served, they somehow have credibility on this issue. Every male in my family for three generations has served (including me) but these hippies don't think I have the clout to express a common view of those in the military.
i am always "spot on" not sometimes.

anyway, I did not write this. I got it in an email.
So it MUST be true... < chuckling>.
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brilliant comment. thanks.
I was just thinking... like.. if you did that, you joined the marines, you chose it. its not like you were forced to do it. Soo why r u complaining? If you wanted to see your daughter grow up, you would choose a job close to home, no?
huh? do you just not get it?
no i did... i'm just sayin...
Only a civilian could say something like that. *sigh*
i am beginning to think that somethings can't be explained.
You have a decent point. For another example...
http://www.mindsay.com/comments/tootboy/just_a_good_ole_boy.mws
The chutzpah levels around here are amazing some times...
why is alan keyes an uncle tom? i still don't get it. he is called that at all the time, but no one says why. is it welfare? affirmative action?
You have me there. I keep asking the same question. The best answer I can get is that he's somehow sold out "Black Culture" by being a conservative. I wasn't even sure one could sell out one's culture, but that's the answer I got. (Honestly, I figure I won't get it until I go to a re-education camp.) The elitism and condescension just ooze out of that answer. It's scary to realize how brainwashed some folks are.
Just one final word on this post: ATTRIBUTION
ok. thanks for your final word.