I have created a bit of a dilemma for myself, and now I don't know what to do.  It's a good kind of problem to have, I guess, but a problem nonetheless.

My mother is having her 75th birthday next year - she was born Sept. 29, 1935.  She is still an active, vibrant, fun-loving, creative and adventurous person who loves visiting new places and meeting new people.  My father, on the other hand, could politely be called a curmudgeonly stick-in-the-mud.  He hates traveling, dislikes being around people, and generally sticks to his comfort zone of books, TV, and online crossword puzzles.  My mother is also the youngest of 12 children, and one by one, her siblings have passed away, leaving only my mother and one sister remaining.  Several of her older siblings have had surprise parties planned for them on big milestone birthdays, attended by dozens of grandkids, cousins, nieces and nephews.  The thing is, though, that most of her family settled in the same general area, whereas she has lived hundreds, if not thousands, of miles away from them her entire adult life.  So naturally they are all much closer to each other than we ever have been.  I would love to have a big celebration for her 75th and invite all of them, but it's not reasonable to expect them to travel 3000 miles for it.  Still, I'd love to do something special to commemorate the occasion...who knows how much longer her health and vitality will hold up?

So I hatched a plan...and decided that this is what I would do with the earnings from my new job.  I decided to take my mom on a special trip - just us girls...someplace my dad would never take her that I know she has always dreamed of going....someplace beautiful and relaxing and really special.  I decided to take her to Kaua'i.  Okay, before you say anything -- YES, I chose Kaua'i at least in part because I also love it there and would love to go back!  But when I went for the first time in June '08, she must have said 1000x how much she would love to go there.  So....one stone, two birds, right?  If Kaua'i ended up being beyond my budget, other places my mom would love (and closer to home) would be the northern California wine country or maybe a spa in the Palm Springs area.  But then I got to thinking...my sister-in-law would love to go too...she never gets to take any trips unless they are work related or someplace my brother wants to go for his extreme sports adventures.  Then I realized that I could not ask my sister-in-law without also inviting my sister. I really detest spending time with my sister (sorry, but I do), but if we did this without including her, I would never hear the end of it.  She has no money, so I would have to pay her way.  I figured my SIL and I could split the cost...each of us pay 1/2 of the cost for my mom and my sister.  My brother makes a ton of money, so the cost is no issue to my SIL.  My mother would be thrilled with the idea of spending a week with her daughters...we've never done anything like that.

So I proposed the idea to my SIL, and she LOVED it. We agreed that it would just be us girls...we would have a blast.  She said she would defer to me on choosing the location and making arrangements....she would just pay 1/2 of whatever it was.  Great!  The only hitch is that she teaches at a private school, so we'd have to work around her school schedule.  They don't hire substitutes, and she also teaches summer school, so that leaves us with a very small window in which to plan.  We decided we wouldn't tell my dad or my sister anything until it was all set...he would just try to shoot us down and my sister would just blab to my mom.

So, the first warning sign came when my SIL told my brother about the plan.  He loved the idea, but immediately started trying to influence the choice of location....he said we should take her to Spain to see where her ancestors came from.  I have NEVER heard my mother voice a desire to visit Spain.  She would probably love it, but it's not anything she has ever mentioned to me.  As much as I would love to, the cost and logistics of that kind of trip takes it to another level entirely...one that even my fit and active 75-year-old mom might not be able to handle.  It's certainly not a trip I could afford.  Not to mention things like having to get passports, VISAs, etc...nothing you can do on the sly.  Then I found out that my brother is taking the month of July off next summer and doesn't want my SIL to travel at all in July.  That leaves us basically with a 2-week window to plan.  Furthermore, my SIL informed me that she has no intention of leaving her daughter, my 7-year-old niece, home for a week, so she would be bringing her along. 

So now my relaxing, special birthday trip for my mom has turned into a vacation with 5 people, one of which is my extremely annoying and very high maintenance sister, another of which is my wonderful but neurotic and slightly passive-aggressive SIL, and a third of which is my adorable (but 7-year-old) niece.  Forget relaxing dinners with a bottle or two of wine...we'd have a kid along who gets bored and antsy and needs to go to bed early.  Forget leisurely visits to the botanical gardens....my niece would be bored silly and cranky there.  Forget a relaxing sunset dinner cruise along the coast...my crazy sister would probably try to jump overboard and would drive us all nuts.  Not to mention that it has to be done during high season and not around my mom's actual birthday, because that is the only time my SIL can go.  Plus, how could I tell my own kids that they can't go if their little cousin is going?  How would that be fair? 

So I've gotten myself into this stupid pickle and I don't know how to get out.  I want to tell my SIL that I have changed my mind about the "all the girls" concept, and I just want to take my mom by myself.  But how do I do that without hurting her feelings?  As it stands, my original concept has been bastardized to the point that it sounds totally unappealing to me.  I don't know if I am being too sensitive about it or what....I know that I DO NOT want to bring any kids along, and that is non-negotiable for my SIL.  If I had just stuck with my original idea of taking my mom by myself, none of this would have even come up.  Ugh.
 
   

 


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wonderingsoul on
Re: What to do....what to do... (long)
Wendy and Myckie have both made great points.  Here are a few of my thoughts, too.
First, if your SIL would have said from the get-go that her daughter had to come along, that would have given you the chance *right away* to say "well, I don't think this should be a kids included trip".  It sounds like instead she waited until things were being discussed in more detail before she threw that monkey wrench in.  Secondly, she said that she was deferring to you as to location.  So that means your brother has NO say.  If he wants to choose a location, then he can plan a trip  separately, like Myckie said.  I also wonder why SIL can't leave the daughter home with daddy while on this vacation?  You made very valid points about not going to Spain, so I think those are things to stick with when discussing why that's not an option.  You can't do it on the sly, and it takes a TON of planning time, so it may not be able to happen until closer to your mom's 76th bday.  If your SIL insists that her daughter comes along, if you end up giving in and it's the 5 of you, I would insist that she pays the entire part of her daughter's way - not the 1/2 thing for the kid.  You shouldn't have to pay 1/2 for her daughter.

Frankly, I am with Wendy.  You should gently stick to your guns.  If you have a child along, it's going to restrict what you're able to do, the activities you can enjoy, the time you're allowed to enjoy them, and the whole vacation is going to be a moot point.  You need to take what the idea of this trip was meant to be, and make it exactly that.  Don't let anything change it because it's for your mom, and it's important she has a wonderful time and a great experience in a place she's never been before.  If you've been there already, you know what those experiences are.    I know these family matters can be sticky....but good luck, I know you'll do what's best!
myclette on
Re: What to do....what to do... (long)
Yeah, what she said!

This trip is for your MOM. It isn't a family vacation.
labsnabys on
Re: What to do....what to do... (long)
Yup, exactly.
lizardbeth on
Re: What to do....what to do... (long)
Yeah! So, have you talked to the SIL yet?
labsnabys on
Re: What to do....what to do... (long)
No, I want to wait and do it in person rather than by e-mail, so I'll see her T-giving week and get it all out in the open.
lizardbeth on
Re: What to do....what to do... (long)
Sounds like a plan to me!
labsnabys on
Re: What to do....what to do... (long)
My SIL did say that she would pay for all of her daughter's expenses PLUS half of the rest of the trip, so that isn't an issue.  It's just the fact of having a kid along (as much as I love my niece) that would sort of "ruin" things.  She has her reasons for not wanting to leave her daughter at home, and I respect that, but it's sort of not my problem.  She could have said, "You know, that's a lovely idea, but I can't leave Sarah home because of x, y and z, but thank you for thinking of me...have a wonderful time with Mom!"  
wonderingsoul on
Re: What to do....what to do... (long)
"...it's sort of not my problem."  Exactly.  Does she understand how having your niece along would "ruin" (i.e. complicate, deviate from the original purpose) the trip?  Or, have you not broached that topic with her yet?  I completely understand where you're coming from in that regard - having a kid along in general, whether yours or hers or Myclette's (just for the sake of argument, Myckie) would completely change the course of the trip.  When its just adults, just the gals, you can come and go as you please, there's no need to worry for naptimes or bedtimes, if anyone is old enough or mature enough or tall enough to visit a certain attraction (giggles)...there are basically no restrictions.  Kids change all that - isn't that why some people choose not to have kids?  Anyway, I hope this all works itself out.  Did you have a date or time frame in mind for actually taking the trip?
labsnabys on
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Yes, you understand completely.  I have not broached the subject with her yet...I didn't want to have that conversation by e-mail, and it's hard to talk on the phone, so I will discuss it with her when we visit at Thanksgiving.  My mom's birthday is the end of Sept. '10, so I have almost a year to plan.
wonderingsoul on
Re: What to do....what to do... (long)
Good luck with that on Thanksgiving!  Hopefully you'll get some sort of resolution to the predicament and be able to start planning.

 
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