Frank A. Demartini, on-site construction manager for the World Trade Center, spoke of the resilience of the towers in an interview recorded on January 25, 2001.

 

The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door -- this intense grid -- and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting.

Demartini, who had an office on the 88th floor of the North Tower, has been missing since the 9/11/01 attack, having remained in the North Tower to assist in the evacuation.

 

This is from Dr. Steven Jones:

I also agree with Kevin Ryan’s objections regarding the NIST study.  Kevin Ryan, at the time a manager at Underwriters Laboratories (UL), makes a point of the non-collapse of actual WTC-based models in his letter to Frank Gayle of NIST:

 

As I'm sure you know, the company I work for certified the steel components used in the construction of the WTC buildings. In requesting information from both our CEO and Fire Protection business manager last year… they suggested we all be patient and understand that UL was working with your team… I'm aware of UL's attempts to help, including performing tests on models of the floor assemblies.  But the results of these tests… indicate that the buildings should have easily withstood the thermal stress caused by… burning [jet fuel, paper, etc.].  (Ryan, 2004)

 

That models of WTC trusses at Underwriter Laboratories (UL) subjected to fires did NOT fail is also admitted in the final NIST report:

NIST contracted with Underwriters Laboratories, Inc. to conduct tests to obtain information on the fire endurance of trusses like those in the WTC towers…. All four test specimens sustained the maximum design load for approximately 2 hours without collapsing… The Investigation Team was cautious about using these results directly in the formulation of collapse hypotheses. In addition to the scaling issues raised by the test results, the fires in the towers on September 11, and the resulting exposure of the floor systems, were substantially different from the conditions in the test furnaces. Nonetheless, the [empirical test] results established that this type of assembly was capable of sustaining a large gravity load, without collapsing, for a substantial period of time relative to the duration of the fires in any given location on September 11.  (NIST, 2005, p. 141; emphasis added.) 

 

So how does the NIST team justify the WTC collapses, when actual models fail to collapse and there are zero examples of fire-caused high-rise collapses?  Easy, NIST concocted computer-generated hypotheticals for very “severe” cases, called cases B and D  (NIST, 2005, pp. 124-138).  Of course, the details are rather hidden to us.  And they omit consideration of the complete, rapid and symmetrical nature of the collapses.

 

Indeed, NIST makes the startling admission in a footnote on page 80 of their Final Report: 

The focus of the Investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this sequence is referred to as the "probable collapse sequence," although it does not actually include the structural behavior of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached...(NIST, 2005, p. 80, fn. 12; emphasis added.)

 

Please read the entire paper by Jones here:

http://physics911.net/stevenjones.htm

 
   

 


 
 
rv1501 on
Re: Why did the towers collapse?
One should note that the old Boeing 707 carried almost double the fuel load of either the 757 or 767 classes...

Another "Hmmmm!" 

justjames on
Re: Why did the towers collapse?
I did see a chart somewhere of comparisons of 707's to 767's. As far as the jet fuel goes, even investigations that supported the official story admitted that the jet fuel burned up rather quickly. Notice the explosion on the second impact. How much of the fuel was burned up on the outside of the building? 
rv1501 on
Re: Why did the towers collapse?
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/airports/plan_manuals.html or Boeing's web site: www.boeing.com

 

I'm guessing: more than a few hundred gallons!

graymatter on
Re: Why did the towers collapse?
do you only blog about one topic?  just curious.  not being nasty or anything.

justjames on
Re: Why did the towers collapse?
I used to blog about other topics and I probably will again. I have a lot of other posts dealing with other topics like humor, sports and political nonsense. I have lost a lot of interest in other things after realizing how there were so many inconsitencies with the official story of 9/11. No one else was really discussing the topic on Mindsay so I took it upon myself to do so. Maybe someone else will come along and pick up the slack and then I'll move on to other things.   
arts4peace on
Re: Why did the towers collapse?
and I, for one, am glad you are doing this.....as you already know.
graymatter on
Re: Why did the towers collapse?
it is not that i am glad or not glad.  it just looked like a fixation.  but it had been explained.  i was only curious.  it came to mind because i like commenting on this blog, but i can't bear commenting on this particular topic.  I lost a cousin in that event and I will be mobilized (thank God) for the war soon.  it is all a bit close for me.  but I have always respected your tenacity with this topic.

As for "picking up the slack", it would be refreshing to see some diversity of thought. I don't see much on mindsay.
justjames on
Re: Why did the towers collapse?
It's fine if you don't wish to discuss it. Most people don't. Don't be afraid to start a topic. I'll pretty much discuss any topic. 
graymatter on
Re: Why did the towers collapse?
I will pretty much only get involved when someone posts one side of an issue and all the responses agree.  I don't see the value in that.  Smart people (I consider you in that group) need to be challenged on their statements from time to time.  It keeps everyone sharp.  An intellectual endeavor deserves an intellectual response. 

 

Whatever you think of me, know this.  I will never let someone get away will making statements that i don't think are born in fact, esp if the mindless just seem to suck it all in.  That being said, I fall into the same category and, on my best days, can be convinced to change a position when confronted with something substantial. dig?

justjames on
Re: Why did the towers collapse?
Hahaha, I can dig it!

 
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