Those of you looking for a change in foreign policy(like myself) are unlikely to get it.

 

Obama:

"My plan also allows for a limited number of U.S. troops to remain and
prevent Iraq from becoming a haven for international terrorism and reduce
the risk of all-out chaos. In addition, we will redeploy our troops to
other locations in the region, reassuring our allies that we will stay
engaged in the Middle East.
And my plan includes a robust regional
diplomatic strategy that includes talking to Syria and Iran – something
this Administration has finally embraced."

 

"As the U.S. redeploys from Iraq, we can recapture lost influence in the
Middle East. We can refocus our efforts to critical, yet neglected
priorities, such as combating international terrorism and winning the war
in Afghanistan
. And we can, then, more effectively deal with one of the

greatest threats to the United States, Israel and world peace: Iran."

 

"Iran’s President Ahmadinejad’s regime is a threat to all of us. His
words contain a chilling echo of some of the world’s most tragic
history."

 

"In the 21^st century, it is unacceptable that a member state of the United
Nations would openly call for the elimination of another member state. But
that is exactly what he has done.
Neither Israel nor the United States has
the luxury of dismissing these outrages as mere rhetoric."

 

I have underlined the key points for you. Take special notice of the underlining in the final paragraph. Obama is using neocon propaganda when he makes this point. Iran's president did not openly call for the elimination of Israel. Doesn't Obama read my blog?

 

 

 

 

 
   

 


 
 
redwoodpecker on
Re: Obama said what?
My favorite misrepresentation is him saying that World war II doesn't justify the occupation of Palestine since they weren't involved at some point became him denying the holocaust.  It's almost like we have some kind of unfair favoritism towards Israel.

I can't tell if it's the case that only those who share the same vision of our foreign policy are allowed a chance at the presidency, or that they all say the same shit because they have no control over foreign policy and are just spewing bullshit to explain the actions of others.  I'm leaning toward the latter though.
justjames on
Re: Obama said what?
I think they are mostly just clay waiting to be molded by their masters.
shadeofgray on
Re: Obama said what?
both parties are war parties... and they stay on the warpath.
shadeofgray on
Re: Obama said what?
Vote for him anyway.  You certainly don't want McBombiran.
justjames on
Re: Obama said what?
Nah, I'm still voting for Ron. I'm just crazy like that. Of course if gas prices keep going up I won't vote for anyone. I won't be able to afford to drive to the voting booth.

 

My car is currently in the shop to make matters even worse. I'm having a fantastic week!! 

FiveAcez on
Re: Obama said what?
Ummm dude he actually has called for Israel's elimination:
Now, I never liked the war in Iraq;  there was no good reason for invading without making some bullshit up.  Afghanistan was different: there was a logical reason behind invading Afghanistan (y'know, the fact that bin Laden  and Al Qaeda were there).   Al Qaeda is now making a comeback there.  What's worse is that they're operating from western Pakistan, a nation that has an unstable government and has a nuclear weapon stockpile.

Of course, Obama is using some of that neo-con rhetoric on Iran.  Right now,  Iran is just using nuclear technology for electricity.  For now, they're not a threat.  As Fareed Zakaria put it, if this were 1938, as some Republicans are saying, Iran would be Romania, not Nazi Germany.

Obama is also not calling for Iran's elimination...yet.   He just wants to do some negotiations.   On that last part you underlined, he's saying the leader has openly called for the elimination of another nation, and yet he represents a member of the UN, which is supposed to provide a forum to settle differences.
justjames on
Re: Obama said what?
Did you really just mention Al Qaeda? Next you'll be warning me about ghosts. I thought Juan cole settled this discussion a long time ago. Here's Cole in the NY Times:

 

"Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to wipe Israel off the map because no such idiom exists in Persian," remarked Juan Cole, a Middle East specialist at the University of Michigan and critic of American policy who has argued that the Iranian president was misquoted. "He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse." Since Iran has not "attacked another country aggressively for over a century," he said in an e-mail exchange, "I smell the whiff of war propaganda."

FiveAcez on
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What's up with you thing with Al Qaeda?  I can understand the Iran thing, but you're gonna have to explain this.
justjames on
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Al Qaeda is a bogeyman CIA creation.
FiveAcez on
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A bogeyman?  So what are we fighting over there?
justjames on
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Fighting people who want us out of their country. It would be no different if some country invaded us. We would stand up and fight and the invading country would call us terrorists or insurgents.
FiveAcez on
Re: Obama said what?
So...they why did they have to blow up the Twin Towers?  It'd seem a bit pointless to do that if they're focused on getting people out of their own country, especially since most of those dudes who did the hijacking were from Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan.
justjames on
Re: Obama said what?
I'm not going to have this conversation for the 1,000th time. Sorry, I don't buy into the fairytale.

 

The plans were on the table to go into Afghanistan long before 9/11. Just like the Patriot Act was written long before 9/11.

FiveAcez on
Re: Obama said what?
I wouldn't buy into it either if I knew more then what I know already, but from what I know, this stuff has pointed to bin Laden in Afghanistan.
justjames on
Re: Obama said what?
My friend, please feel free to dig a little deeper. There's some ugly stuff under the surface.
justjames on
Re: Obama said what?
Here's something I posted back in 2006 from Cole:

 

http://justjames.mindsay.com/is_iran_really_a_threat.mws

FiveAcez on
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Wow, that's a lot of misquoting going on.
corneliusdurden on
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Whoops.  Don't let the Obamians see this!

 
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