Giving of the Finger

 Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the  French, anticipating victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all captured English soldiers. Without the middle finger it would  be impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore they would be incapable of fighting in the future.

This famous weapon was made of the native English Yew tree,and the act of drawing the longbow was known as "plucking the yew"(or "pluck yew" ). Much to the bewilderment of the French,the English won a major upset and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the defeated French, saying, "See, we can still pluck yew! PLUCK  YEW!"

 Since 'pluck yew' is rather difficult to say, the difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a  labiodentals fricative 'F', and thus the words often used in conjunction with the  one-finger-salute! It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with the longbow that the symbolic gesture is known as "giving the  bird".

Feel free to "flip it"  with pride...... and now understanding.

This was pilfered from an email sent to me and in no way were any birds or bows hurt during this process.

 
   

 


 
 
rraspberry on
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A patron at the library gave the exact same explanation the other day. I was going to blog about it but you beat me to it
hester on
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Sharin brain cells this morning are we?
rraspberry on
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Yes
hester on
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Some of us had a peanut butter brain cell going on yesterday.
hypnagogic on
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*flips self several times*  Yeah!  But I don't know nuthin' about longbows.  I understand what the human meant who was holding his index finger out horizontally, and when I asked why, he said it was a perch for his bird.  And then he crossed his middle finger over it and started laughing.  I kept waiting for another bird to show up and finally flew away.
hester on
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hahahaha - you made me laugh hypnagogic - thanks.
swimperson on
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Ok but the word "Fuck" comes from the german word (I hope I am spelling it right) "fricken" which means to strike did you know that grasshopper. 
hester on
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We will just have to ask our resident German Girl then.
swimperson on
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well maybe ask the german girl about the spelling but the fact is true.
anglund on
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And then there's the old British story about F**K standing for Found Under Condemnation of the King-something labled to prisoners. I like the middle finger thing though-cheeky. 
krommos on
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The origins of this gesture are highly speculative.  Giving someone "the finger" is one of the basest violations in modern culture, but its origins date back over 2500 years. It is identified as the digitus impudicus ("impudent finger" in Ancient Roman writings and reference is made to using the finger in the Ancient Greek comedy The Clouds by Aristophanes, where the playwright made a crude joke mixing up the middle finger and the penis. It was defined there as a gesture intended to insult another. It has been noted that the gesture resembles an erect penis. Ancient Romans considered an image of an erect phallus as a talisman against evil spells. Even back then, the bird was considered an aggressive, phallic put-down.

It has also been argued by anthropologists that the finger is a a variant of a classic "phallic aggressive" gesture used by primates. By jabbing a threatening phallus at your enemy like a wild animal, you aren't just belittling him, but also making him your sexual inferior. Instead of using a real penis, civilized Janes and Platos called upon the substitute wieners within their own hands to mock, threaten, and humiliate opponents.

When the Romans imported the art, music, and culture of the Greeks, the finger came along, too. Roman Emperor Caligula, a pioneer in perversity, frequently shocked his citizens by forcing them to kiss his middle finger instead of his hand. One of his subjects, Cassius, who Caligula often taunted as being too effeminate, finally had enough humiliation and assassinated him. Clearly, the bird was not to be taken lightly.

In 1644, John Bulwer wrote Chirologica: of the Naturall Language of the Hande as a guide to common hand signals for the deaf. The finger, or convicium facio (meaning, I provoke an argument) was a "natural expression of scorn and contempt." Although he thought it was horrid to use, the deaf might have had no better way to express themselves after someone dumped the contents of a chamber pot on them in the street.

The Bowfinger legend, a popular but apocryphal story, derives it from the gestures of Welsh archers, fighting alongside the English at Agincourt. The myth claims that the French cut off fingers from archers, and that the 'finger' was a sign of defiance by those who retained their fingers. The same story also claims that 'fuck you' is a corruption of 'pluck yew' since bows were made of yew, or the phrase "I can still pluck yew!". While it has been debunked many times, this story still crops up. The confusion most likely comes about through people mis-remembering the story, which was in fact concerned with a rude gesture involving two fingers, and adding their own strange etymological justification.


- From Several Sources

hester on
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Krommos - I don't think anyone (including myself) took this story for anything other than what it is - humor.

It's a joke - get it?

Very interesting history lesson you have provided us and I see Goggle is working well today.

krommos on
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I've actually seen it come across in various places as supposed history.  I thought that perhaps several others here might have thought it to be so, too, by their replies to your post.  I certainly missed that this was presented as humor, but, then again, I'm as often mirthless as I am bursting with levity.

Yes, Google is working very well.  It saved time to cut and paste what is amply available, rather than write something new over so small a matter about which most of us were already aware.

hester on
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re-read the replies and don't see where anyone took this as a serious history lesson.

not sure that anyone would take anything in hesterland as serious!

krommos on
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I take Hesterland's newfound love of Tu-Hai seriously!  Heading there now, actually...

hester on
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want me to join you?
krommos on
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That would be delightful, truthfully, but it takes me an hour and half to get there and I'm riding with one of my friends from here (I'm actually in Jacksboro), and I don't know our exact 'errand list' or itenerary.  How about a rain check on that?  I plan to eat there as much as possible before we leave for China! 
krommos on
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Heading out the door now.  ETA 1345 hrs!...
hester on
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Great - just let me know when you plan on being this way next and I will join you.
krommos on
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Got back about 15 minutes ago. Mmmm...  Com thom thit xao!  That's number 19, I believe.  With salted lemonade, cafe sua da, and an order of SPRINGROLLS!  Delicious.  Now I'm home and already longing for more...
hester on
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just know that I'm about 2 minutes away so can have it everyday if I want!
krommos on
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I've been eating there since I was seventeen, and for awhile I ate there everyday for months on end, so you've abit of catching up to do.

See how defensive I get when you rub it in about Tu Hai?   Geesh...

kyrianne on
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you're awesome!  you saved me from having to find the etymological sources of the word.  thanks. 
krommos on
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You are welcome.  I'm pleased that my efforts were appreciated by another
kyrianne on
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i love etymology.

did you know that felicity and felatio have the same root?

krommos on
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I love etymology, too.  Adore it, actually.  It's a fascinating subject that touches numerous fields.  My library is rife with dorky titles, books such as Encyclopedia of Word & Phrase Origins and Word Origins & Their Romantic Stories (by Funk).

And yes, I did know that their root is similar.  My eldest daughters name is Felicity and another friend of mine pointed that out.  But, of course, with Felicity meaning happiness - it would just figure as such, eh?

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