Here in the band we're faced with a little bit of a dilemma...

 

This past week was homecoming. This involves a number of traditions in the band, including but not limited to:

1. The freshmen write a saying on the underside of the bills of their beanies, which is something that each freshman earns in band camp in the summer by learning our names and the history of the band. For example here's my class in our beanies our freshman year: picture

2. There are 4 concrete "blocks" leading up to the band hall. At homecoming the freshmen have to strip off the fifth year's block and replace it with their own, for example here is our block, freshly painted: picture

3. After the football game, we have a band party which is for the most part band only, with some alumni typically showing up as well. It's one of two parties during the year which is sort of "you're a loser if you don't show up", the other being right after the freshmen get their beanies.

 

Now, here's the dilemma part... one of the freshmen was recently suspended for the rest of the year and lost all of his scholarships because he was stupid enough to hack into the public computers and log people's login info just "because I could".

 

Despite this, he continues to follow us around... taking pictures of everything and more importantly butting his nose into everything that's going on. He overheard people talking about the homecoming party and randomly showed up. He overheard other freshmen talking about their beanie slogan and showed up when they were painting them on to paint his. He saw the names on the block and whined and complained that he couldn't sign it... something that the band directly specifically told the other freshmen not to allow.

 

And the worst part of it all... the part that REALLY bothered me... was when he pulled out his saxophone in the stands and started playing with us.

 

1. I do not want people seeing him with us, leading them to think we're okay with his behavior

2. I do not want him to think we're okay with his behavior and

3. I do not associate with felons.

 

Every single person I have talked to about it has said how uncomfortable they were with him being there. Some were angry, confused... no one was okay with it.

 

So the question is, how do you tell someone they're not welcome in the group that they are obsessing over without completely crushing them?

 
   

 


 
 
shiny on
Re: a dilemma....
Question for you: Has he been suspended from extracurricular activities? From school itself? Were criminal charges brought?

Your school is a private institution, correct?

Let me know and I'll reply accordingly.

-- S
drumgirl on
Re: a dilemma....
Yeah it's a private school and he has been suspended completely from the school until next fall...

Specifically you can see his punishment on page 90 of the handbook (item B): http://smu.edu/studentlife/PDF/SMU_Student_Handbook_07-08.pdf

And no criminal charges were filed, which I think he's effin lucky for that. His scholarships, as most scholarships, are taken away with a suspension.
shiny on
Re: a dilemma....
It sounds like he's on private property if he attends practices / events where he is not specifically invited.  It also sounds like the dude is creeping people out.  Could this matter be escalated to whatever resembles the police / security on campus?

Or -- better yet -- can he be taken aside and warned that he is not welcome, and that any further trespass will involve security's involvement?

-- S
drumgirl on
Re: a dilemma....
In order to come back on campus, he had to go to the dean of students or something like that to get special permission. So technically he was allowed on campus. The party was a different story though. I think it pretty much came down to the host is just too nice to tell him to go away.

 

If he does come back, I'll be the first to go the campus police and say he's not supposed to be here

shiny on
Re: a dilemma....
Sometimes in life it's important (and the best decision) to not be the nice one. I would just make sure that you document everything in writing professionally -- where he has been without invitation, the time and place where he was causing a disruption to your band performance, etc.   If he petitioned to the dean to be allowed on campus, you can notify the dean that you're having concerns about the presence of a non-student who is causing a disruption to campus activities.

Let me know how it goes...

-- S

 
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