When we lived in Papua New Guinea, a man named Francis told us this story.

 

Francis was sound asleep when, at 4:30 in the morning, he was awakened by someone hitting him in the side and telling him to get up.  He woke up, but whoever it was who had awakened him had turned on all the lights, so Francis couldn’t see a thing.  His first thought was that this must be a supernatural being, since the door had been bolted from the inside when he went to bed.  This supernatural being told him to go to the house of Peter Tunda and pray for Peter’s son, Andrew, who was dead.  Peter Tunda was a ward officer at a nearby prison.  By the time Francis’ eyes had grown accustomed to the light, the messenger was gone.

 

And the door was still locked.

 

Francis got up, washed up, jumped on his bicycle and headed for the prison.

 

He approached the gate of the prison and asked the guard if Peter Tunda lived there and if his son, Andrew, had died recently.  After he received an affirmative reply, Francis told the guard that the boss had told him to go see the dead boy.  He didn’t tell the guard who the “boss” was.  Assuming that by “the boss,” Francis meant the “station manager,” the guard let him in and indicated where the house was.

 

Leaving his bike with the guard, he walked up to the house and knocked on the door.  The family was awake, mourning Andrew’s death.  Francis told them that the boss had told him to come and see the dead boy.  Again, since the boss had said so, Francis was invited in.  The immediate members of the family were Christians, but the other relatives who had gathered in the house weren’t. 

 

The body had been in the morgue but the family had brought it back to the house, intending to bury the boy that day.  Francis went into the room where Andrew lay, accompanied by his mother, father and the oldest brother, Simon. 

 

             Francis said, “Andrew, you’ve been sleeping for three days.  All the family has been mourning for one whole night, and it’s just about daybreak.  It’s time to wake up.”  The boy’s body started shaking, and he sat up.  The parents were shocked, to say the least.  Then Francis explained to all of those gathered there who the “boss” was, shared the gospel, and the rest of the family received Jesus as their Savior. 

 
   

 


 
 
lovespirit on
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...and this is why I know Mikey is not a lost cause. 

 

The more desperate the circumstance, the more powerful the testimony.

k10 on
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I'm not being ignorant...I'm just saying...

Why would an angel (a messenger of Christian God) be sent to a man, to pray to God (the man who sent him the messenger) for someone else's son?

Why wouldn't God, just do it himself without being prayed to, if he knew that he needed to resurrect someone.  Does he just like being prayed to?
misterskank on
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You're not really supposed to try to make rational sense of these Christian folk tales. Just shout, "Praise God!" 
nearingtheend on
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Misterskank, now you know better than that. Christian Folk Tales? God is not going to let you get away with that. You have read the word so you have said. To know and then denounce God is not wise. Why have you turned so far away? What do you believe God did to you to make you so cold to him? Chaplain Hutch
misterskank on
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Are you another who raises the dead? Hallelujah! I have not "denounced" "god," only questioned the preposterous claims of some of god's preachers.
nearingtheend on
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And by the way Misterskank, I know you have blocked me, but I have not blocked you. You have access to God's truth anytime you want. Chaplain Hutch
misterskank on
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I haven't blocked you, Hutch; I've blocked only Pussypatter because I don't want to be associated with pornographic links and Myrrh because she was so secretive I didn't trust her. Try again. You should be able to access me. Of course I have access to god's truth anytime I want; no disagreement there! Whether I'll find it at your site, however, is another matter.
christianisrael on
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If this were a Christian "folk tale," as you derisively call it, there would be no names to verify the truth of it. These people were known in the community.  But no, you, from your desperate spiritual place in Kansas, thousands of miles away, know better what happened in this poor Papua New Guinean family than they do.  Your jealousy is showing.  You have no spiritual power and therefore despise those who do.  You are a cloud without water, a fruitless tree in late autumn.
misterskank on
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Just keep raising the dead, Jim; I'm all for it!
christianisrael on
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After Jesus died, rose from the dead and ascended to heaven, He sent the Holy Spirit to empower those who follow Him.  The Bible calls Christians the “body of Christ.”  We are His hands and feet.  And although misterskank ’s intention was to denigrate Jesus and those who love Him, we do, at times like this, say, “Praise God.”  You can be sure this boy’s parents were!

k10 on
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but why wouldn't got automatically help those in need without being praised.

if there was a person who only helped people when they praised them...that person would be called arrogant
misterskank on
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As I said! Reason? Forget it.

And, by the way, contrary to Jim's slander, I've never denigrated Jesus whom I admire; only those interpreters of him who claim they know the  "real" meaning of his teaching. God and Jesus speak personally to Jim. Nor have I ever denigrated others who admire Jesus; only those admirers who say, "Only Jesus!"—emphasis on only. Jim knows this, but he chooses to misrepresent me, a deliberate denigration of the very kind for which he falsely accuses me.
k10 on
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this is why I can't be a Christian...ever since I was old enough to understand...it wasn't logical.

i believe in God, but not the Christian concept of him
misterskank on
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Well, don't be too hasty; you may need a Christian to raise friends or family from the dead. Jim says Jesus empowers his followers with the holy spirit so they are able to perform such a miracle, and I've never known anyone who claimed more often or more loudly than Jim that he was a devoted follower of Jesus; so if one day you need a resurrection or two, give Jim a call. Praise God!
nearingtheend on
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Misterskank, your Jesus is not THE Jesus, God's son. Stop spreading your foolishness. It is you who has twisted the holy bible and made Jesus into what would best fit your life, or your newest belief, or any circumstance you need to squeeze your Jesus into. It's however many years you have been alive vs. the 66 books of the bible written and inspired by the one and only God in the form of the bible which comes with a lot more authority than whatever you have made up or now believe along the way. It is false beliefs and your teachings are false. And you expect K10 to see any sense or truth or answers to her life in what you believe as it changes from week to week and blog to blog?  This woman is asking important questions about God, and Jesus of the bible. The very words of Christ and the father. Speak of what you know. You accuse Jim of slander and misrepresenting you!! It is Christ we defend agaist slander and misrepresentation. You will return to the earth along with all of us, ashes to ashes and dust to dust and you will know the truth at that time. I know it seems too exclusive to you but it is free to all who ask and believe. You will know them by their fruit. You are being visited by some bountifully frutiful believers who have been given great power and authority. God must want you pretty bad.

 

K10- Either Christianisrael or myself nearingtheend can answer all of your questions backed up by God's word, about prayer and about God's purpose for you and for all of us. Just write us.

 

Chaplain Hutch

 

misterskank on
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Oh, sorry, Hutch, I forgot YOUR Jesus is THE Jesus. My reading of the bible is "twisted" and YOUR reading is TRUTH. I'm spreading "foolishness" and YOU'RE spreading TRUTH. Don't delay, K10! You never know when you'll need the service of Jesus' followers to raise you and your loved ones from the dead.
nearingtheend on
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"My reading of the bible is "twisted"- your interpretation and I am only guessing, your application of the bible is twisted. If he bible is a folk tale, wouldn't you think that's a bit off the mark?

 

You mock the very words of Christ that you claim to believe.

 

You said: Nor have I ever denigrated others who admire Jesus; only those admirers who say, "Only Jesus!"—emphasis on only

 

But the bible and Jesus you claim to know said: 'I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me."

 

He is THE ONY WAY Misterskank. Not your way, not the  thousands of other religious ways to God. Jesus is THE ONLY WAY.

 

Can you see the hypocrisy? I am not attacking you. I am attacking what you say and what you claim to be truth when it simply is not.

 

True Christians are not making it up as they go along. You hear from us what the bible says and only what the bible says from those of us who are called to teach the truth. There are false profits in the Christian faith as well Misterskank who claim to heal, and raise people from the dead, and claim to know when Jesus will return. Many of them are not speaking for God but for their own selfish desires. We pray for them as we pray for all people Christians or non Christians. Your professed knowledge of the bible would remind you that there were many heretics throughout mankind and God dealt with them in powerful  and extraordinary ways as he will do today.

 

But your continued mocking of Christians in this case "the service of Jesus' followers to raise you and your loved ones from the dead." is the very foolishness I have referred to when I write to you. It's the playground bully who calls you names and bloodies your nose but ends up the ultimate loser in life. I will say it again, God loves you Misterskank no matter where you have been, what you have said, and no matter what you believe today. If he took me in and transformed me as he has, and I was as lost as one can be, all of us can know God and be saved under his redemptive love. Chaplain Hutch

misterskank on
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What does "through me" mean? Through his alimentary canal? It couldn't mean through his teaching of forgiveness, nonviolence, honesty, and love?

You say you're not attacking me, you're attacking what I say. Hutch, I'm not mocking you, I'm mocking what you say. Can you see the hypocrisy?

Must you yell at me in all upper case capital letters, Hutch? The folktale I referred to was the story of raising from the dead in the original post. My "god" forgives you and loves you, too, Hutch.
nearingtheend on
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Must you yell at me in all upper case capital letters, Hutch? Here is your last mail to me Misterskank....

 

Oh, sorry, Hutch, I forgot YOUR Jesus is THE Jesus. My reading of the bible is "twisted" and YOUR reading is TRUTH. I'm spreading "foolishness" and YOU'RE spreading TRUTH. Don't delay, K10! You never know when you'll need the service of Jesus' followers to raise you and your loved ones from the dead.
 
I was also just TRYING to make my point and you may have been just mocking my upper case use initially. It is the beauty and the freedom of the keyboard that allows us such amplifications.
 
You say "My God forgives me" May I ask you then, Who is Your God? Tell me about him please. I want to understand.
misterskank on
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It was mockery. My blog is replete with explanations of my god. Not a "him."
nearingtheend on
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Okay. You don't believe in one god, but "god." You're an athiest. If indeed there is a God, the God of the bible, is there any way he could get to you so you would recognize him while you're still alive preferably?
misterskank on
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I'm not an atheist.
nearingtheend on
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Here are your words from your Blog #73 from April of 2007 titled "Belief or Unbelief"

 

I don't believe in God but I believe in "god." The idea is that there is a nameless infinite mystery unknown. If we experience it, we feel awe, a "religious" experience. Problems (fights and wars) begin when we give names to this nameless infinity and impute specific characteristics to it. Hindus describe it one way, Buddhists another, Jews another, Christians another, Moslems yet another. "Our way is the best way!" each religion claims. So I'm an "atheist" regarding the specific "god" each religion describes and claims is the best "god," yet I believe in "god," the one beautiful nameless infinite mystery unknown. Go figure—

mr s

misterskank on
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That's not atheism, Hutch. I believe in "god." You're an atheist with regard to Zeus, right? And to Isis, and to Allah, and to Krishna? Me, too, and I'm an atheist with regard to the Lord in the Old Testament, too, meaning that I believe all these gods to be incomplete, imperfect portraits of "god." Really, Hutch, I'm not shy about being called an atheist, but the word really is misleading if applied to me and my beliefs. That's what I tried to explain in the post you cite. The truth is I do believe in "god," just not the one you paint.
nearingtheend on
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Got it. I appreciate the explanation. In answer to your question, I am not an athiest with regard to Zeus or Allah. An Athiest is someone who does not believe in the existence a god, period. I do believe in the one and only God, so others who claim to know of and worship others gods would not be a god to me. If that makes any sense. Thanks for your patience in explaning your faith though you still have not answered the original question which you may choose not to answer, who is your god? Chaps 
misterskank on
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My god:

The nameless power and mystery that sustains our reality of the universe and manifests in infinite forms and ways.

Experienced, god evokes wonder, awe, curiosity, knowledge of the preciousness of all life, humility, and joy.

Experienced, god inspires courage, remorse, repentance, openness, honesty, mercy, forgiveness, kindness, generosity, selflessness, and love.

Named, labeled, described, codified, preached, its believers organized, their small children indoctrinated, it all goes horribly wrong. 
christianisrael on
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This boy was raised back to life before any praise was offered.  Praise isn't a prerequisite for Jesus to act in love--it's a response to what He's done.  I'm not sure how you got this idea from this post.  
bonniegirl on
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He uses men to do his work on earth...always.  If it had not been for Ananias, whom the Lord awakened and told to go to Saul of Tarsus, he may not have turned from killing Christians and given his life to the work of Christ. And the Bible is full of such examples.  He came to show us an example and then sent his Holy Spirit to live in man, so that he could now work through us, if we have faith in His power and listen and believe his voice.
bonniegirl on
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Definitely voted.  People need to know of God's loving ways.
christianisrael on
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Pretty cool to think of Jesus walking around in the midst of kids, ey?
bonniegirl on
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If he could do it in the fiery furnace.....

Yes, VERY NEAT!

 
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