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Not the Torani!! lol
Poor Kitten.. You could always lock it in your room at night and when you leave... or the bathroom.. or... oh wait.. those are the smaller rooms... lol. Or you could by like a little playpen thing for cats where they cant get out but they have a lot of room.. O-o
Just some ideas so you dont have to get rid of him before I get to see him! T-T
Poor Kitten.. You could always lock it in your room at night and when you leave... or the bathroom.. or... oh wait.. those are the smaller rooms... lol. Or you could by like a little playpen thing for cats where they cant get out but they have a lot of room.. O-o
Just some ideas so you dont have to get rid of him before I get to see him! T-T
I don't really want to put the poor thing in captivity. I don't even approve of crates for dogs at night. I think it's cruel.
He's not out, yet. But if things don't improve...
He's not out, yet. But if things don't improve...
Just like with women--better to get rid of the problem ones early, before you get attached to them.
And you see how well I've done in that department.
Yeah...you 'n' me both.
Don't get rid of the poor guy. I think you guys could do some good for each other - you can learn to be more parental and he can learn to be more mature. Maybe going through with this will be the thing that prepares you to be a dad, once you've settled down yourself. As usual, don't think too hard on anything I say, I just worked 11 hours and took a test at work (I guess that is a real-life skill)...
I know crate training seems mean, in a general sense, but what of it do you disapprove of? We're trained by our parents/minders not to leave our rooms at night unless we must, whats all that different there? My sister's cat got trained to a point that it'll hop in it's crate when you tell it "bed-time" and stay there most of the night with the door open.
I know crate training seems mean, in a general sense, but what of it do you disapprove of? We're trained by our parents/minders not to leave our rooms at night unless we must, whats all that different there? My sister's cat got trained to a point that it'll hop in it's crate when you tell it "bed-time" and stay there most of the night with the door open.
I have no desire to be a dad. It has nothing to do with preparedness. I just don't see the need.
Maybe you were trained by your parents to stay in your room, but I had no such edicts. Not that I needed them. I went to bed, I slept, I got up in the morning (often against my will). I just see no purpose in confining a pet to a crate at nighttime, aside from personal convenience. But that's not a good enough reason for me.
Maybe you were trained by your parents to stay in your room, but I had no such edicts. Not that I needed them. I went to bed, I slept, I got up in the morning (often against my will). I just see no purpose in confining a pet to a crate at nighttime, aside from personal convenience. But that's not a good enough reason for me.
It is not always a matter of convenience. Often it is for the safety of the animal. My dogs were crate trained for times when we were away for a few hours ( not at night, necessarily). They felt very secure in their own little " rooms". I know this to be true because when play got too boistrous for one or another ( we had 4 dogs) they often would " paw" at the crate door and look up at me, " asking" to be let IN.
I have a beagle who is a compulsive chewer, as many beagles are. When we are gone for more than a couple of hours, she goes in there for her own safety, with a peanut butter filled bone to keep her content.
We had, at one time, two cats as well. They had a crate, too... we placed it on top of one of the dog crates and put their food and water in it. They were quite pleased to have a dog free zone of their own, where they could eat in peace.
Crates are cruel if misused, but a great help if used properly. Don't let the whole " cage" appearance throw you.
I have a beagle who is a compulsive chewer, as many beagles are. When we are gone for more than a couple of hours, she goes in there for her own safety, with a peanut butter filled bone to keep her content.
We had, at one time, two cats as well. They had a crate, too... we placed it on top of one of the dog crates and put their food and water in it. They were quite pleased to have a dog free zone of their own, where they could eat in peace.
Crates are cruel if misused, but a great help if used properly. Don't let the whole " cage" appearance throw you.
Yeah... I could see that, I guess. You seem to take better (at least with us) to the eccentirc, helpful, non-parental-yet-mature role that an odd uncle or the like would usually pick up.
Have you looked at other options than crate training? Warm milk before bed time, etc? lol.
Off to work, talk later.
Have you looked at other options than crate training? Warm milk before bed time, etc? lol.
Off to work, talk later.
It's like the baby gates and stuff for littler kids. You put them in play pens and gates and stuff so they don't hurt themselves until they're mature enough to know what they can do and what they're not allowed to do.. It's not mean, just training. Another example.. School.. and I hate ta use this but.. School, to sane people is annoying and/or torcherous, but it prepares us for the stuff ahead. Sometimes you don't want to do something, but it's bette if you do. That goes for humans and they're pets.
When have you ever seen an animal hurt itself? In all the pets I've had over the years, never has one of them gotten hurt by being allowed to roam free.
One thing I can say... Have you met Shade?!?!?!
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