(I wrote this on an online forum in response to this really shitty article about teachers and the public school system.)

 

 

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=1500338

 

I think we can acknowledge that there's a problem with the educational system here, but it's not just one thing, and that's what pisses me off.

It's not JUST the teachers, or the curriculum, or the funding, or the administration...it's just not so cut and dry.

It makes me livid when I hear people bashing the teachers- as IF we have any control over what we can and cannot teach- or do. As if we can force a student to sit down or stop acting up or stop cursing.

You hear people talk about home-schooling being the answer to the problem (how many times have you heard about home-schooled children success stories?) but hell- what teacher wouldn't want to work one-n-one or in a small group, right? If I could do that all the time, I'd be ecstatic and the students I had would be advanced.

Then we're told that it doesn't matter how big the class is...it's the teacher.

The problems are so deeply embedded and no one seems willing to understand that.

Part of the article mentions a teenager who could barely read on a first grade level, right? Then he went to Sylvan (private tutoring) and went up two grade levels in 72 hours.

I wonder why his mother didn't notice something was wrong?

I wonder how many times a teacher might've tried to have him evaluated only to be deflected by an administrator who thought that it was a bad idea (has happened to me at least 6 times), a parent who didn't think anything was wrong ("My son does not need 'special help'!"- COUNTLESS times), or a principal who refused to hold the child back (supposedly there's no social promotion in NYC, but in my school, we were told to  promote kids up to the third grade. I had the third grade for three years and wondered why 1/4 of my kids didn't receive services or get  held back).

I find it difficult to believe that through all that time there was not one teacher who didn't care enough to try to get that child help. I don't believe it at all.

I'm at school every day by 7:00 am. I go from downtown to uptown every day to an "at risk"school where the kids run in the halls all day long and call teachers "b*tches" if they tell them to go back to their class. I was famously referred to as a "no-necked black b*tch"by a 9 year old.

My 2nd graders try to learn as they listen to the 3rd graders in the class above them throwing tables, screaming and doing Lord knows what. Let's not forget the howling and yelling and screaming going on in the hallways throughout the school day. Oh- and did I mention the student who runs through the halls all day who has hit the principal twice and knocked a co-worker of mine unconcious? He's still there, of course...

It's all our fault, isn't it?

Articles like that make me sick.

 
   

 


 
 
causticveracity on
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I have tremendous respect for teachers. Of course in any profession there will be bad apples. But generally speaking teachers are underpaid and overworked. They don't get paid commission for success stories.
Did you alter your headerpic?
causticveracity on
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Oh yeah, and I think in most cases home schooling does more harm than good. Socializing is just a big a part of school as anything else. Homeschooled students miss out on that element.
brightstuff on
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Truly- most of the homeschooled kids I've met have been socially inept.

I watched this weird program on the Discovery Channel about a family super Christians who had about 16 kids. All of them were homeschooled and dressed like they just walked off the set from Little House On the Prarie.

causticveracity on
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Yeah I've ran across some Christian homeschooled kids. They live in some alternate reality. Sad really. Pathetic even. 
brightstuff on
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Howya doin???

Haven't played catch up on the blogs yet so I haven't checked out your latest exploits.

I hope none of them involve a bottle of booze and a black out.

Crazy fucking anarchist.

causticveracity on
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No, just banging ho's, reading books on comparitive mythologies and playing video games. *sigh* - its a hard life. 
brightstuff on
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I should be so lucky  to have your life.

escapist on
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20/20 used to be a respectful news magazine.  Pay no mind to their one-sided reporting- all US news programs are simple and sensationalized.  Maybe you can create a documentary about the school system with Michael Moore (or me in a few years).  Show this country (and the world) how messed up the school system is.  Keep enouraging those that accept encouragement and want to be more than others are.
myclette on
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Thank You! Call Michael Moore right away! I think the best reality show would be "So You Think You Can Teach?"  It would take people who blame the schools and the teachers  into a public school environment where they would teach for an entire semester. Their prize?  A teacher's yearly salary!  I think that would shut people up quick!  Half a year of teaching wouldn't even be worth a teacher's yearly salary when these "experts" got through getting beat down by the system. Wait until they have to come out of their own pockets to pay for expenses they think the schools should pay for. 

I couldn't even bring myself to watch 20/20. Everyone wants to blame the schools and the teachers for their kids being "dumb", but they never take these things into account:

 

1) Parents are their kids' first teachers. We didn't teach them how to walk, talk, use the potty (in most cases) or even tie their shoes (in most cases). Some how when their child starts going to school, some parents stop teaching.

 

2) Classroom sizes are WAY too big.  The last class my mom had before she retired had 33 students!

 

3) I don't know how many times I've seen parents in denial. You tell them their child is having a hard time reading and they blame you. I sit and read with my kid every single day. You tell them that their child has behavioral problems and they blame the school and transfer them to another school.  After changing schools 3 or 4 times you'd think they would have a clue.

 

4) Who the hell else goes to work and has to deal with their client's poor behavior on a daily basis? If a lawyer has a difficult client they can drop him or her. I've been called a 'fucking whore' by one of my 9 year-old students because I dared to ask him to complete 20 math problems he didn't finish for homework. Yeah, it's the teacher's fault...NOT.

 

5) The kids are tested too much. All of these standardized tests and the kids still don't know anything? Why? Because they are taught how to take a particular test, not how to actually THINK.  When I was going to school we had maybe two standardized tests a year. These days, depending on what grade the child is in, they may have up to 4 tests a year. What kid could function with all that pressure?

brightstuff on
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MYCLETTE, I agree with everything you're saying. Hell, I could've written what you wrote- the only difference is that I was called a "NO NECKED BLACK BITCH" by a 9 year old.

 

My union's organizing a protest against that fuckbag who did the program.

Should be fun.

I havent seen the program yet.

 

radiance7 on
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It is extremely frustrating when "news shows" over simplify an issue..or dumb it down you might say.  Most public school teachers work so hard and deserve tremendous respect for being in the trenches everyday.  You are right.  The issues involved are complex.  If a school is located in an area that is crime ridden and people live in poverty, the schools will naturally reflect the same problems unless extreme measures are taken.  I believe that school buildings need to be smaller and contain less students so no one slips through the cracks.  In inner city schools, classes need to be very small so that enough attention can be given to these needy children.  The teacher on the video did not mention how small his school was.  I would guess it's about 200 students..maybe less.  Schools this small almost always do better.  Also, recalcitrant students are often kicked out of these schools and sent back to public school.  I also think that this principal has some kind of sour grapes going on with public schools.  In addition,  I seriously question the safety of letting Junior High kids run around bad neighborhoods for gym class and paying kids cash for attending school is extremely questionable.  It smacks of bribery. If his school is so great they would want to come without being paid. 

My best to you in your struggles.

brightstuff on
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Paying kids cash to attend school?

That's too much.

It amazes me that the only motivator they can think of is money...

Thank you for your kind words...

escapist on
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The Television is EVIL!  Don't look directly at it!

 
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