My parents reconed we needed to "talk" again, and have to go to some other place to do it - I try to ask them why they can't just tell me now what's on their mind - why wait? - I'll still take it in just as seriously, but they say it gives it more "importance" - I say it makes no difference to me and I should've said that the only thing that's different about it (that's able to give it that "imporance" is the formality - so they think that I actually take notice of it more if it's formal, and for some reason they think it's "better" - try getting them to give you a striaght answer to why

It is inconvenient to be interupted in whatever I'm doing and be assigned an arbitary timeslot at an arbitary place - but they assume that I'm only doing this for the selfish reason of wanting to do my own thing (they always think i'm being selfish - but I dare not try to make them realise that thinking that having me jump whenever they command is selfish - it cuts both ways, but I know there'd be one helluva arguement because they wouldn't want to accept it.
They are masters at evading the point and using anything I say as cover, there wouldn;t be the fight if they actually listened - not just pretending they are with a pre-formed response of how crap I am but actually took me seriously - but they're so hard to fight, because I can't prove to them that they're not taking me seriously, but it's obvious that they couldn't maintain their position if they were listening. They always think I argue with them out of selfishness, and that even I am trying to get something out of them, it's hard to get them to trust me

I wish, if ever something came on their mind, they felt free to say it there and then (and I said that) - there's no point in waiting till later - and I have to talk to people at any oppertunity I get all the time at work - they say they can't talk while doing something else - but I know that's crap - they don't have to prepare and psyche themselves up into arguement mode just because there's some issue on their minds. They also think I avoid them because I don't ask their advice, but I can't imagine it actually helping me - I figure stuff out for myself, when something's on my mind an arguement is the last thing I need. More often though there's nothing to say - life is the same as before, with no real threat, and it doesn't upset me easily, so what can I say? - They complain about work everyday, I don't need to spill my guts at every inconvenience, I don't even try to remember bad things, I'd rather get on.
 
   

 


 
 
xhermiexloverx on
Re: Parents are overly fond of formalities
My parents do the same thing. I think most people do what your parents are doing. You know... having "family meetings" and shit. I know we've talked about this before and I know that you know it already, but sometimes you just can't change people. You can try, but sometimes it just doesn't work. It can be very frustrating though.
bahamat on
Re: Parents are overly fond of formalities
I know.... just had another bust up... and they took it badly when all I want is to explain myself. They want me to be more enthusiastic and motivated in life, but I keep telling them that I need a reason why anything should matter, and they keep going round in circles (assuming that I care about stuff that I wouldn't) - it's more fundamental than that.

What really annoyed my dad is that I said that in honesty I sometimes feel pressured into doing what he says just to keep him quiet, (including particularly that job interview a few weeks back), and that although I do stand up against it sometimes, when I do I always face a huge arguement and I couldn't see any way it could go well. He was annoyed that I allowed him to go to the effort of trying to find me work when I felt really torn up about it inside, but it was either that or put him through another go-nowhere arguement, nothing I could have done would be nice.
Maybe I can't change them, but it's my only hope. I care about them, but it'll take pressure on them to understand, I'd have to get them to feel guilty themselves, that would hurt me, but it could work. There is no easy way, it breaks my heart to put them through this, but long term I don't see any other choice
xhermiexloverx on
Re: Parents are overly fond of formalities
I know it can be painful, but I think you're doing the right thing by standing up to them. Maybe one day your parents will realize that you aren't trying to be difficult and that you aren't a kid anymore... that you are capable of making your own choices. 
bahamat on
Re: Parents are overly fond of formalities
thankyou I like to think that everytime I get a little tiny bit closer - but I dunno, maybe when they've tired themselves out psychologically... then anger would strain them, and they could also give up advocating social pretences

 
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