Hmmmm, we are at an accord on that one Crapple sucks. No one can deny it from computers to the (almighty IPOD!) they can't make shit.

Yup.

As a matter of fact I don't wanna talk about that shit.....makes me angry....

Yeah...

I diden't know that I could reach level 31 out of 70 in an mmorpg in under 1 day, or get in a clan, or do masssive pvp......ahhhhhh that was a good night.(not wow)

what game then?

knight online. I am a level 34 I am in a clan called vanguards^tm they won't let me do any pvp with them until I am atleast lvl 55

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agreed, i'd rather have a phone that is always in analog then an iphone. as for needing music on my phone i thought the whole thing was stupid to begin with. completly riduculas, the space could be used for something more useful

Yeah. Music to a minimal is nice for ring-tones, but this is just too much.

There is, in fact, a right click for Macs.

I need proof. Tangible digital proof.

You really need to cover your bases better

Been out for a while

There's always been a right click function available for Macs.  It's called control-click.  Standard apple mouses are made with one button.  But that does not mean "No right click."  There is the mighty mouse.  And regular old standard USB 2.0 non-Apple brand mouses work with Apple computers.

Wow. That's a new development.

And who says anyone forces them to use iTunes when using a Mac?  There's Audion 3, Softwarium, a Mac version of Windows Media Player, and one lovely player called VLC player which plays just about anything known to man.  All of these are wonderful apps that do a lot of similiar things to iTunes.  You are not forced to just iTunes on a Mac.

And the other thing, is that if you were to buy an Intel-core Mac, then you can run Windows XP, and you can then run whatever the hell program you want at that point.

For the iPod, you do need to use iTunes.

But how, in your own words, is that everything?

I mean video, music, and games (for the iPod).

What you're referring to is the copy protection code built into all iTunes Music Store media.  Which does include everything you listed above.  This is different in that it is the iTunes Music Store.  Yes, if you buy from the store, then you can only use it on an iPod.  If you import music to iTunes, but own a different mp3 player (non-iPod), you cannot put music onto your mp3 player from iTunes.  But so what if Apple decided to have a monopoly on iTunes media?  I can tell you right now that if that's your problem with Apple computers, then that has very little to do with the computer itself, and has much more to do with your own personal preference and Apple corporation's (admittedly) "selfish" actions.  But the fact is that regardless of the limitations of iTunes, on an Apple computer you can still put mp3s on a non-iPod mp3 player, you can still play music through a non-iTunes program, you can run windows programs if you have an Intel-based Mac, and you never have to purchase any antivirus software.

All I'm saying, is hate on the iTunes Music Store and the iPod all you want.  But don't hate on the computer.  It's a lot better than you think.

I hate Apple. 

Nuff said.

Yeah.