Many times a major part of any eco-logical restoration project is the elimination of the invasive exotic species that are on the site to start with.  Many years of poor land management has caused what were once fertile prairies to be degraded into fields of exotic weeds.  One piece of property that we have been working on has a particularly nasty invasive thistle ( Silybum marianum ) growing in a patch that is about thirty acres.

 

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We have been working over the past couple of years to get rid of this pesky invader from the Mediterranean.   So far we have been able to reduce the infestation to about four acres, which is a vast improvement over the thirty acres that were originally taken over.  We’ve been monitoring the site to make sure that we are able to go in at the proper time to increase the effectiveness of our control measures.  

 

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So far, we have used several different techniques in battling this particular weed and are starting to see very good results from the actions that we have taken so far.  I will probably take at least two more years to completely eradicate this weed from the area and there is always a the threat of it returning if there is any major soil disturbance, which will expose more seeds from the seed bank of thistle that is in the soil.

 

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Hopefully, that won’t be the case.  It is amazing to me that any one would let an invasive plant like that even get going on their property.  The problem started there with probably one or two plants that cropped up in the cattle pen, which is now no longer in use.  From its genesis in a cow turd this weed spread down the hill from the pen to cover up the field below.  One or two quick chops of a hoe in the beginning would have saved years of work and expense.  

 

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The really scary thing is that this invasive plant is sometime used as a herbal medicine so any old idiot can buy seeds on-line and create their own ecological disaster, if they aren’t careful about what they are doing.

 
   

 


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AlatheiaEunomia on
Re: Cleaning Up the Messes of Our Fore Fathers
We've got that going on here with this shit called garlic mustard.
DrunkenOso on
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Yep thats another nasty one.  It amazes me how careless people are in spreading that kind of stuff around.
AlatheiaEunomia on
Re: Cleaning Up the Messes of Our Fore Fathers
Are you kidding? People don't know and furthermore, DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK. Read my blog entry from today. If people don't give a flying fuck about people, they're sure as hell not going to give a flying fuck about plants and/or the environment.
DrunkenOso on
Re: Cleaning Up the Messes of Our Fore Fathers
I read it, agree if your too cheap to buy something that is nice and actually useful, then don't even bother in the first place.
AlatheiaEunomia on
Re: Cleaning Up the Messes of Our Fore Fathers
Yeah. How do I say that? Or dare I?
champy on
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tell me - are you using any type of biological control or are you going completely manual in your eradication efforts...

or...are you using herbicides!?!?! :0...

but that's ok sometimes, sometimes you have no choice. I have my own vendetta on my land against purple loosestrife, but I usually just pull the stuff up. I don't have time to raise those beetles they've introduced.

DrunkenOso on
Re: Cleaning Up the Messes of Our Fore Fathers
We have been using fire, boiling water, mechinal removal for the most part.  There isn't any bio control for it as of right now.  Hopefully it will never get to be a big enough problem to make biological control economically viable.  The ranch is on to top of a karst (limestone cave) formation and has several spp. of endangered cave fauna, so the use of most herbicides is out of the question.  I have done a little wick application tests with a few "safe" herbicides, but haven't seen good results so far.
l1natel1 on
Re: Cleaning Up the Messes of Our Fore Fathers
 Boiling water must be for spot treatments I assume. I can't imagine it being economically efficient for large areas. Does fire destroy the seeds? I'm not sure how the seasons work in Texas but I know up north(east) where wildfires are less prevelant seeds can't take the heat.  If we burn it out late in the season before the plants have a chance to store up energy in the roots for winter, the fire nutralizes the seeds and then we can pretty much spot check in the spring to much success. Can't say i've done controlled burns but i'm familiar with the process. If those 30 acres looked anything like the picture then it must have been a pretty big mess. 
DrunkenOso on
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Boiling water is for spot treatments with very shallow soil.  There is a karst formation (limestone cave) that is beneath the field we are working in and it houses several types of endanged cave fauna, so we need to be very careful in the sensative areas.  The fire won't kill the seeds so we have to time the burning to kill the plant before it produces the seed.  We have knock the envasion down to about five or six acres and the restored areas look like this:


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l1natel1 on
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Fantastic.  How did you identify the limestone beds? Noticeable outcropings, surface breaches? So I guess you must have a year-long growing season? Burns don't penetrate the soil do they??Makes sense, without a cold season the root structures wouldn't be as strong or deep so burns would destroy enough of the plants to eliminate them.
DrunkenOso on
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Just about the entire state has a limestone base.  This piece of property has about  a half dozen cave mouths on it and the bed rock underneath is kinda like swiss cheese.  Between the cool and warm season plants there it usually something growing year round.  In a proper burn the soil shouldn't heat up more than 20 degrees and only in the top 1/8 to 1/4 inch of soil.  So the deep rooted perennials have no problem bouncing back.

hypnagogic on
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Don't smash me with your big clawed paws because my question is not a defense of invasive plants, it's just about 'weeds' in general.  When I was training for the Master Gardener program one of the speakers remarked that if people were growing gardens for nutrition they'd pull out the modern crops and eat the weeds because the weeds packed a lot more food value in them.  I'm not offering to eat a field of thistles to discover the truth or not, just wondering about your opinion on this. 

I have lots of time to think about such questions as there is no crow story for me to read.  *sighs*  Don't suppose anyone thinks I've forgotten? 

DrunkenOso on
Re: Cleaning Up the Messes of Our Fore Fathers
It all depends what you consider a weed.  Many plants that gardeners consider weeds are very high in minerals and very nutrient rich.  However, that high dose on minerals and vitamins, usually give the plants a bitter and unpalatable taste.  Or maybe just an acquired taste since most of those "weeds" were eaten by various Native American tribes.  i like eating what most people consider weeds.  The weeds that I was speakng of in my post are the invasive exotic species.

I'll call Kromos tonight and see of I get him to post the crow story for you sometime soon.

environgirl on
Re: Cleaning Up the Messes of Our Fore Fathers
Blech! That thing even looks mean. 

How do y'all decide what area needs to be "fixed" next?  

Like when ya'll are not working for a particular client do you clean up local areas just on general principle?

Are their speculators who see a piece of land in some state of particular ruin and "solicit business" (I could'nt think of a better way to put that) from whoever is in possession of the property?

DrunkenOso on
Re: Cleaning Up the Messes of Our Fore Fathers
We let nature tell us when it is time to work on a certain project.  If the weather and growth conditions aren't right then the whole thing can be a waste.

We are always working. 

 For the most part a landowner that is in need of help with their property will contact us.  It doesn't do much good to go out and try to drum up business with people that are not interested in the health of their land.

environgirl on
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Oh I see. Thanks for the clarificaiton. Lovely thing, listening to nature. More (all) of us should do just that.
myclette on
Re: Cleaning Up the Messes of Our Fore Fathers
That's a nasty weed. My yard is so bad, that when I first moved here I didn't know what was a weed and what wasn't a weed.  The woman who lived here before us was supposedly a gardener, but she got too old and was unable to tend to the yard. Everything went to pot.  I just started trying to get rid of all of the plants I didn't like. If a plant grew back despite my efforts to get rid of it, I figured it was a weed. 
sojourner on
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"everything went to POT?!" C'mon Myclette, that could've been quite profitable!! LMAO!!!
myclette on
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LOL! Well, maybe, but I would be tempted to consume it all. LMFAO!

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