A Correction About Onboard Phones

By David Ray Griffin 

05/07/07 "ICH" -- - In my recently released book, Debunking 9/11 Debunking,[1] I claimed that Boeing 757s made for American Airlines did not have seat-back phones or any other onboard telephones.

This claim, if true, would be very important, because one could use it, as I did, to argue that the alleged telephone call from Barbara Olson to her husband, US Solicitor General Ted Olson, could not have occurred. It might be thought, to be sure, that the call could have been made from her cell phone. Ted Olson did, in fact, make this claim at times. As I reported, however, the evidence indicates that cell phone calls from high-flying airliners would not have been possible in 2001, given the cell phone technology of the time. In any case, Ted Olson, after going back and forth between these two claims, finally settled on the claim that the calls were made on a seat-back phone. If Flight 77, being an AA Boeing 757, had no onboard phones, we would have to conclude that Olson’s claim could not be true. I myself drew that conclusion (while saying that this would leave open the question of whether Olson invented the story or was himself a victim, like the relatives of other passengers, of faked phone calls).  

My Error

I based my conclusion on conversations that Ian Henshall and Rowland Morgan had with American Airlines in 2004 while they were co-authoring book. In this book, 9/11 Revealed, they said: “A call by us to American Airlines’ London Office produced a definitive statement from Laeti Hyver that [AA’s] 757s do not have Airfones. This was confirmed by an email from AA in the US.”[2]

Although this email correspondence was not printed in their book, or in Morgan’s later Flight 93 Revealed, in which it is also reported,[3] they allowed me to print it in Debunking 9/11 Debunking. In reply to their letter asking whether “757s [are] fitted with phones that passengers can use,” an AA spokesman wrote: “American Airlines 757s do not have onboard phones for passenger use.” To check on the possibility that Barbara Olson might have borrowed a phone intended for crew use, they asked, “[A]re there any onboard phones at all on AA 757s, i.e., that could be used either by passengers or cabin crew?” The response was: “AA 757s do not have any onboard phones, either for passenger or crew use. Crew have other means of communication available.”[4]

The conclusion that Barbara Olson could not have made a call using an onboard phone seemed further confirmed by a page on the AA website that says, “Worldwide satellite communications are available on American Airlines' Boeing 777 and Boeing 767,” with no mention of AA’s Boeing 757.

My mistake, like that of Henshall and Rowland before me, was to assume that the AA spokesperson and this website were talking about AA 757s as they had always been, not simply about 757s at the time of the query, in 2004.

But the latter was evidently the meaning. Elias Davidsson, an Icelandic member of the 9/11 truth movement, sent me a news report from February 6, 2002, which said: “American Airlines will discontinue its AT&T in-flight phone service by March 31, a spokesman for the airline said Wednesday.”[5] Davidsson also pointed to a 1998 photograph of the inside of an AA 757 showing that it did have seat-back phones.[6]  

Reasons for Still Doubting the Olson Calls

Does this evidence, that Flight 77 did have seat-back phones, mean that we must infer that Barbara Olson’s alleged call to Ted Olson really occurred? Of course not. All the reasons that had previously been given for doubting it still hold.

One problem with the story about this call is that Barbara Olson was the only person on the plane who allegedly used a seat-back phone to call someone. There were, in fact, only two people altogether from this flight who allegedly made any calls, the other one being flight attendant Renee May, who supposedly used a cell phone to call her parents. Moreover, Barbara Olson reported, according to her husband, that all the passengers and crew members had been herded to the back of the plane. Yet we are supposed to believe that none of the other people, seeing Barbara Olson make two phone calls, grabbed one of the other seat-back phones to make their own calls. We are also supposed to believe that no one else, while seeing Renee May use her cell phone, decided to use their own cell phones to call someone. This scenario is extremely implausible.

Another problem with Ted Olson’s story is that he has repeatedly changed his claim about the means his wife used to make the calls. Three days after 9/11, Olson suggested on one TV show that the call was made on a seat-back phone. Then, on another show that same day, he suggested that his wife had used her cell phone. Six months later, he returned to his first story, saying: “She wasn't using her cellphone, she was using the phone in the passengers' seats. . . . [S]he was calling collect.”[7] One would think that the details of this call---his final conversation with his wife before she died---would have been burned so indelibly into his memory that he would not have said different things at different times.

There is, however, an even more serious problem, which was stated in an essay by Rowland Morgan in 2004: “Ted Olson could give his adherents closure, and shut his critics up,” Morgan pointed out, “by simply producing the Department of Justice’s telephone accounts, showing a couple of hefty reverse-charges entries charged from Flight 77’s Airfone number at around about 9:20 AM on 11th September, 2001.”[8]

This passage, incidentally, evidently played a role in another error I made, this one entirely my own doing. My text contains this statement: “He [Ted Olson] later produced Department of Justice telephone accounts purportedly showing that there were two reverse-charge calls from Flight 77’s Airfone number about 9:20 a.m. on September 11, 2001.”[9] When I came across this statement as I was re-reading my account, I was puzzled by the fact that it had no reference. Why had I not given the source for such an important claim? In looking for this source, I discovered the just-quoted statement from Morgan’s essay. I am completely baffled about how this error occurred. Perhaps during my note-taking process, I somehow transformed Morgan’s hypothetical scenario into an actual fact. (This transformation could not, of course, be explained as either deliberate distortion or wishful reading on my part, because the DOJ records, if they had actually been produced, would have significantly strengthened the case for the truth of Ted Olson’s claim about the calls.) But whatever the explanation, this error, like the more important one discussed earlier, will be corrected in the second printing of Debunking 9/11 Debunking.

My error, however, serves to highlight the problem, which is: If Barbara Olson’s calls were made to the DOJ (Department of Justice), as Ted Olson claims, why has neither he nor anyone else produced records showing the occurrence of those calls? The conclusion that no such records exist is reinforced, Morgan and Henshall have pointed out,[10] by the fact that, according to The 9/11 Commission Report, the FBI’s report on the issue, “American Airlines Airphone [sic] Usage,” makes no mention of DOJ records. It merely refers to four “connected calls to unknown numbers.” The 9/11 Commission commented: “The records available for the phone calls from American 77 do not allow for a determination of which of [these four calls] represent the two between Barbara and Ted Olson, although the FBI and DOJ believe that all four represent communications between Barbara Olson and her husband’s office.”[11] However, if the DOJ had received any of these calls, the FBI, which is part of the DOJ, could have easily produced the records. The fact that it did not strongly suggests that these calls were not received.

Having mentioned three problems with Ted Olson’s story, I will conclude with a fourth. According to CNN, which first reported his statements, Olson said that his wife had reported that “all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane” by hijackers armed with “knives and cardboard cutters.”[12] The pilot, Charles “Chic” Burlingame, was a big, athletic man, of whom his brother said: "I don't know what happened in that cockpit, but I'm sure that they would have had to incapacitate him or kill him because he would have done anything to prevent the kind of tragedy that befell that airplane."[13] According to the Olson story, however, they did not kill him but took him, along with his co-pilot and the rest of the flight personnel, as well as all the passengers, to the back of the plane. Is it plausible that these 60-some people, led by Chic Burlingame, would not have easily overpowered three or four rather small hijackers[14]---Hani Hanjour and perhaps one other hijacker would have been in the cockpit---armed with knives and box-cutters? If this does not qualify as an absurd conspiracy theory, what would?

For all these reasons, the evidence that AA 77 did have seat-back phones does little to reinstate the credibility of the claim that Ted Olson actually received calls from his wife on that flight.[15]  

Conclusion

In this brief essay, I have tried to exemplify what I have always said people should do when they find that they have made errors, especially about issues of great importance: Correct them quickly, forthrightly, and publicly. I assume that now NIST, Popular Mechanics, and the 9/11 Commission will retract the dozens of errors that have been pointed out in their reports.

 
   

 


 
 
askjesse on
Re: Barbara Olson’s Alleged Call from AA 77:
I'm impressed. Now I'd like to see everyone have as much integrity as this man. I've seen a lot of arguments online that use outdated arguments, things that are based on errors. While he has retracted this statement, there are 50,000 other people that will conveniently overlook this and keep using it till the end of time, unfortunately...
911northwoods on
Re: Barbara Olson’s Alleged Call from AA 77:
Unfortunately, you are right. It's like when Bush said that he never linked Saddam with Al-Qaeda but right-wing nuts still do it.
wtchoax on
Bush "Explosives Placed High" New Tidbit? //Calls all Fraud=Never Produced for Public; Hi Mom...[absurd]
Bush "Explosives Placed High" New Tidbit you might Like // 100% Calls all Fraud=> Never fully Produced for Public; Hi Mom...[absurd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USnxe7hxP4I&mode=related&search=
YouTube - Bush 'EXPLOSIVES place hi enough' [wtc] = HUGE point]!!!

princessjaybunni (1 week ago)
impeach bush ! the counrty was bushwacked ! he was soo in on 911 ! wake up people !..scum of the earth and evil = bush.
editormg (1 week ago) 
OMG WTF????? "He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high point ..a point that was high enough to prevent the people trapped above from escaping"?????
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The cable TV show 'Mythbusters' just tested the myth that using a cell phone...

Reason: no cell phone signal reached the test plane once they were aloft.
     911 phone call myth- BUSTED (again).


   http://storage.testpad.net/freedomfiles.org/WTC-LoneGunmen.wmv
The 911 attack plan as seen on FOX TV March 4, 2001- featuring remote fly Jets.....            -------<>-------

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ezjavfyiw8&mode=related&search=
[this is old news... but i dont think i had my own downloaded copy video before today ] Bush knew of WTC crash before leaving hotel <old news from the beginning>
NAMEISMUD2 (1 day ago)
not saying he knew but seriously why did he make up so many different stories about seeing the first plane hit and making it seem like the dude [ Andrew Card] was coming into the classroom to "tell" him [quote "a second plane hit the second building"] about the happenings??
sibkiss2007 (1 week ago)
He would have something to say about it later? How much later? 3300 lives later? One My Pet Goat later? 2 more planes downed later? What a tell tale sign that he didn't give shit. Sounds like Katrina all over again. He fiddled while Katrina blew away the Gulf Coast.
sibkiss2007 (1 week ago)
I have more respect for retarded citizens than that. Don't compare Bushbitches to mentally retarded. They don't have an excuse.
What is for sure is that we have not been told the truth. My hope is that there are some people in the know who will have the courage to tell the public the truth. It seems that the mainstream media are 'in on lie' and don't investigate. The american people don't seem to care. So let them suffer until they wake up.
kunkle187 (1 week ago)
wait he new about it before leaving his hotel?
bush [ALSO, in the 'selected public' speech clip] said he saw it on the t.v. at the school and thought it was an accident, that is until plane #2 hit. then the prick just sat there with his book. man these guys just laugh at us debating 9/11. of course it was an inside job. anyone who doesn't think so, doesn't know history.
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======= the Calls = boring and least significant, & least provable [to me] but
this just peeked at me:
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=consp_911&Number=295225204&Search=true&Forum=All_Forums&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=295225204

Have you noticed anything strange yet? Of the passengers and crew of Flight 11, 77, 175 & 93, only 22%, 22%, 28%, 13% respectively are in the SSDI. [Death Claims Master List for Social Security]
       Remember human greed? Of the 266 people that we were told died on these jets, only 11 relatives applied for compensation. Can you believe that not a single relative from Flight 93 applied for compensation? I can't. Were all the relatives of the victims so rich that they weren't eligible to receive compensation? No, that's not it. (The minimum federal award was $250,000, and the average pay-out was about $1.8 million. The recipients only had to make agreement: they couldn sue the airlines.)
You should also know that most lawyers told their clients to take the money and run (which is what most lawyers would do - take the sure money). Ellen Mariani clearly elaborated on this point during her appearance on the radio show mentioned above.              Finally, during the past week, thanks to Lisa Guliani's insatiable quest for the truth, the 9-11 Victims Compensation Final Report has come to light.
9-11 Victims Compensation Final Report              
Oddly, but consistent with everything concerning 9-11, the actual complete list of the people who benefited has been omitted from this report. Even without this, it does contain an interesting fact. According to the report, 98% of all the people who suffered a loss on 9-11 took the fund money. The average payment was $1.8 million.              But here's where it gets strange. According to the government, here are the number of people who accepted the compensation fund:
Out of a total of 92 people on Flight 11, only 65 accepted the 9-11 fund (71%)
Out of a total of 65 people on Flight 175, only 46 accepted the 9-11 fund (71%)
Out of a total of 64 people on Flight 77, only 33 accepted the 9-11 fund (52%)
Out of a total of 45 people on Flight 93, only 25 accepted the 9-11 fund (56%) _________________________________________________
Todd Beamer's wife told Larry King on CNN on 23 Aug 2002 that he is still alive.
and 1000 other 'oddities' like the HUGE scandal exposed about the LYING and Destruction of  terrabytes of 'ABLE DANGER' => Mohamed Atta  data and two-years foreknown free travel throughout USA, the payments directly from Pakistan ISI, the Cozy Bush/Saudi Links and how they directly benefit from the whole hoax.

 
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